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Why play with calculators or make guesses when people here can share actual repeatable experience.
Kinda like why would I type in 2+2 into a calculator when I know the answer is 4???
Something's you need to calculate.
Something things you don't.
I'll trust these guys considering the amount of experience and data they are bringing to the table..
You just sound more and more like a ricer with each post.
Kinda like why would I type in 2+2 into a calculator when I know the answer is 4???
Something's you need to calculate.
Something things you don't.
I'll trust these guys considering the amount of experience and data they are bringing to the table..
You just sound more and more like a ricer with each post.
come on hes just saying experience, most engine builders do what they want, not what you want, lots of people have never went past the 8th grade if that, some of the top racers in the country didn't yet they know how to win set records and find the fastest way to the finish line with common sense and not book smarts, I am an uneducated piney yet have managed to be in the top% of the bolt/on cam and H&C C6s in the country, I was told my car couldn't run the times it has by many book smart people, yet it has. wonder what it would have ran without the head wind
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Lol...ok
1/2 x air density x drag coefficient x speed (squared)
Would love the chance to race you one day Dennis....be a great time......
Tell me what you think about this ??
Here is your data...........
C5 frontal area = 20.7
CD = .334
CdA = 6.9
http://www.wallaceracing.com/wind-angle-calc.php
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1/2 x air density x drag coefficient x speed (squared)
Would love the chance to race you one day Dennis....be a great time......
Tell me what you think about this ??
Here is your data...........
C5 frontal area = 20.7
CD = .334
CdA = 6.9
http://www.wallaceracing.com/wind-angle-calc.php
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http://www.wallaceracing.com/Calculate%20HP%20For%20Speed.php
With enough experience of drag racing corvettes at different power levels, the correlation of back half numbers should be recognizable with how much more power it takes to overcome the increased drag or how less drag would help a car cover the same distance more quickly.
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Went to dig up some old slips and wrote Dragtimes DA on them as I didn't even keep track of it back then not realizing the difference it made and the last one was after I got 4.10s and replaced stock clutch, but was surprised at how bad the air was given it dynoed only 363rwhp sae corrected so ignore it. Was curious of your explanation of the slips as the one with high trap at E-town I remember being a strong tailwind. The first two(1/8 and Atco) were done on stock c5 size street tires, then e-town was on c5z size street tires/wheels and ran drag pack at Texas 1/4. The first one in Texas appears to be a tailwind given the faster mph...you could just come run here and see how close you can get to your PB set up there, hey I've ran at both places lol
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Went to dig up some old slips and wrote Dragtimes DA on them as I didn't even keep track of it back then not realizing the difference it made and the last one was after I got 4.10s and replaced stock clutch, but was surprised at how bad the air was given it dynoed only 363rwhp sae corrected so ignore it. Was curious of your explanation of the slips as the one with high trap at E-town I remember being a strong tailwind. The first two(1/8 and Atco) were done on stock c5 size street tires, then e-town was on c5z size street tires/wheels and ran drag pack at Texas 1/4. The first one in Texas appears to be a tailwind given the faster mph...you could just come run here and see how close you can get to your PB set up there, hey I've ran at both places lol
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Do you know these people personally? Some people try to help others go faster, others try to keep all the secrets to themselves...I'll clue you in, he's not the latter. I happen to have met Caleb aka lsoholic face to face and wouldn't call him a ricer, just saying.
You didn't get where you're at on your own Dennis, neither did any of the other racers on top...as you said it takes a team. You may not fully understand, why or how and may not even care to, some have that mindset of an engineer as I believe Caleb does for a living. He's taking time to try and educate others, yourself included if you desire to learn. You say a headwind of unquantified amount is worth .001 of a second. How hard was it blowing the day you ran your PB? Was a worth a tenth, I doubt it though it may have been closer to that than one thousand of a second. I wonder if you running at Atco which is surrounded by trees blocks the headwinds affect, kind of how a handheld weather station at intake level is more accurate than a reading from 30ft in the air. The data inputted in the calculators may not be completely accurate, but is your data collected from experience 100% accurate if you can't explain why the other isn't correct? We're talking about aerodynamics, not putting in a peak dyno number to try and calculate how fast your car can run in an unstated DA.
You didn't get where you're at on your own Dennis, neither did any of the other racers on top...as you said it takes a team. You may not fully understand, why or how and may not even care to, some have that mindset of an engineer as I believe Caleb does for a living. He's taking time to try and educate others, yourself included if you desire to learn. You say a headwind of unquantified amount is worth .001 of a second. How hard was it blowing the day you ran your PB? Was a worth a tenth, I doubt it though it may have been closer to that than one thousand of a second. I wonder if you running at Atco which is surrounded by trees blocks the headwinds affect, kind of how a handheld weather station at intake level is more accurate than a reading from 30ft in the air. The data inputted in the calculators may not be completely accurate, but is your data collected from experience 100% accurate if you can't explain why the other isn't correct? We're talking about aerodynamics, not putting in a peak dyno number to try and calculate how fast your car can run in an unstated DA.
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After I put the mufflers back on I realized the torque bushings didn't like the new power and hard launching, got new ones to swap in but waiting on the diff to come back with 3.90s installed. Probably will wait to beat on it till cooler weather comes back around, but while were waiting what do you think the gears will be worth ~.2/2mph?
They only run one test n tune a month at 1/4 track now and lines are ridiculously long...couldn't make last one, but went to 1/8 with mufflers on and the 660 timers were messed up...made one pass and realized that's why no ones times were showing, so I left with a refund.
Here's a video for your viewing pleasure though, at first thought headwind was the reason slip said I trapped 44mph lol
They only run one test n tune a month at 1/4 track now and lines are ridiculously long...couldn't make last one, but went to 1/8 with mufflers on and the 660 timers were messed up...made one pass and realized that's why no ones times were showing, so I left with a refund.
Here's a video for your viewing pleasure though, at first thought headwind was the reason slip said I trapped 44mph lol
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