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Old 04-11-2011, 11:12 AM   #1
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Default Springsteen...Pay your taxes so unions can squander them...

...Of course, HE DOESN'T PAY HIS TAXES


http://deceiver.com/2011/04/07/give-...ng-class-hero/


Bruce Springsteen built his reputation on being a rock star of the people. He’s not one of these Bono-types who claim to be in touch with the common man while touring the globe on a private jet, swilling champagne and eating beluga caviar off the backs of rare Siberian tigers. No, man, The Boss gets it.

Or so he’d like us to believe.

Recently Springsteen decided to lend his support to working class warriors from his home state by criticizing Gov. Chris Christie and his budget plans for the state of New Jersey:

In a letter to his hometown newspaper, legendary rocker and Garden State icon Bruce Springsteen laments its recent report about how the state was slashing programs that help its poorest citizens while sparing more affluent residents from the budget axe.

“The article is one of the few that highlights the contradictions between a policy of large tax cuts, on the one hand, and cuts in services to those in the most dire conditions, on the other,” Springsteen writes to the editors of the Asbury Park Press. “The cuts are eating away at the lower edges of the middle class, not just those already classified as in poverty, and are likely to continue to get worse over the next few years.”

Good, old Springsteen. Always looking out for the blue collar crowd.

And himself.

Because as it turns out, Mr. Springsteen has been exploiting a few loopholes the New Jersey tax laws for quite some time now.


According to a report by Fox News’ Barbara Nevins Taylor:

Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen have been making hit music for years and its no surprise that they’ve earned enough money to buy big mansions with acres of property, but what might surprise you is the huge tax breaks they, and others, are getting.

It turns out, as far as New Jersey tax collectors are concerned, that they are farmers.

Almost a million acres in New Jersey are certified as farmland. Owners who own at least five acres, practice some kind of agriculture, or manage the trees on their property and sell $500 worth of goods a year qualify for a significant tax break.

They do have to pay the full taxes on their homes, and non-farm property.

Through a trust, Bruce Springsteen owns more than 200 acres in Colts Neck. the taxes for his house and three acres are more than $138,000. But because of the farm tax break, the tax bill on a little more than 200 additional acres is less than $5,000. Town officials say he has horses and an organic farmer working some of the land. A lawyer for the trust had no comment.

So, let me see if I’ve got this right. Chris Christie is a heartless scumbag for proposing cuts to the state’s general assistance programs, but Springsteen is a champion of the common man for, uh, criticizing Christie while not paying his fair share of taxes — taxes that could have been used to support those very programs? Now, are we sure Bruce was really Born In The USA? Because this story is reminding me a whole lot of a certain Irishman I know.

But there’s one final irony and one parting, hypocritical shot to this story that’s just too juicy to leave out.

As it turns out, Christie is a huge Springsteen fan. He even requested that Bruce and his E Street Band play at his inauguration. Not surprisingly, the group was unavailable and Christie was forced to settle for a cover band after being told:

. . . the E Street Band didn’t want to get involved in state politics.

Nope, no politics here. Just a healthy dose of good, old fashioned self-interest.
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:15 AM   #2
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...Of course, HE DOESN'T PAY HIS TAXES


http://deceiver.com/2011/04/07/give-...ng-class-hero/


Bruce Springsteen built his reputation on being a rock star of the people. He’s not one of these Bono-types who claim to be in touch with the common man while touring the globe on a private jet, swilling champagne and eating beluga caviar off the backs of rare Siberian tigers. No, man, The Boss gets it.

Or so he’d like us to believe.

Recently Springsteen decided to lend his support to working class warriors from his home state by criticizing Gov. Chris Christie and his budget plans for the state of New Jersey:

In a letter to his hometown newspaper, legendary rocker and Garden State icon Bruce Springsteen laments its recent report about how the state was slashing programs that help its poorest citizens while sparing more affluent residents from the budget axe.

“The article is one of the few that highlights the contradictions between a policy of large tax cuts, on the one hand, and cuts in services to those in the most dire conditions, on the other,” Springsteen writes to the editors of the Asbury Park Press. “The cuts are eating away at the lower edges of the middle class, not just those already classified as in poverty, and are likely to continue to get worse over the next few years.”

Good, old Springsteen. Always looking out for the blue collar crowd.

And himself.

Because as it turns out, Mr. Springsteen has been exploiting a few loopholes the New Jersey tax laws for quite some time now.


According to a report by Fox News’ Barbara Nevins Taylor:

Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen have been making hit music for years and its no surprise that they’ve earned enough money to buy big mansions with acres of property, but what might surprise you is the huge tax breaks they, and others, are getting.

It turns out, as far as New Jersey tax collectors are concerned, that they are farmers.

Almost a million acres in New Jersey are certified as farmland. Owners who own at least five acres, practice some kind of agriculture, or manage the trees on their property and sell $500 worth of goods a year qualify for a significant tax break.

They do have to pay the full taxes on their homes, and non-farm property.

Through a trust, Bruce Springsteen owns more than 200 acres in Colts Neck. the taxes for his house and three acres are more than $138,000. But because of the farm tax break, the tax bill on a little more than 200 additional acres is less than $5,000. Town officials say he has horses and an organic farmer working some of the land. A lawyer for the trust had no comment.

So, let me see if I’ve got this right. Chris Christie is a heartless scumbag for proposing cuts to the state’s general assistance programs, but Springsteen is a champion of the common man for, uh, criticizing Christie while not paying his fair share of taxes — taxes that could have been used to support those very programs? Now, are we sure Bruce was really Born In The USA? Because this story is reminding me a whole lot of a certain Irishman I know.

But there’s one final irony and one parting, hypocritical shot to this story that’s just too juicy to leave out.

As it turns out, Christie is a huge Springsteen fan. He even requested that Bruce and his E Street Band play at his inauguration. Not surprisingly, the group was unavailable and Christie was forced to settle for a cover band after being told:

. . . the E Street Band didn’t want to get involved in state politics.

Nope, no politics here. Just a healthy dose of good, old fashioned self-interest.
I wish my taxes were only $5000
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:20 AM   #3
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Springsteen is an idiot and his "music" sucks.
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:32 AM   #4
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:34 AM   #5
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he's hippie-lite, the ranks of which i've destroyed in my CD collection

i hate hippies

i hate liars
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:56 AM   #6
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He is a phony d-bag, whose "music" sux and it seems he is also a hypocrite blow-hard.

Mr. Springsteen's only redeeming value is the Rage Against the Machine cover of his song "Ghost of Tom Joad".
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:03 PM   #7
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he's hippie-lite, the ranks of which i've destroyed in my CD collection...i hate hippies...i hate liars
Good move.

I can honestly say of my sizaeable collection one'll not find anything by this half-pint big mouth boor. In fact IF an 'entertainer' opens their yap concerning their politics they're instanly scratched from my list so fast it isn't funny. They're the right to speak their crap, aright; but, NOT on my time *or* dime.
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:08 PM   #8
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He is a phony d-bag, whose "music" sux and it seems he is also a hypocrite blow-hard.

Mr. Springsteen's only redeeming value is the Rage Against the Machine cover of his song "Ghost of Tom Joad".
Iffin your talking about the live version with Tom Morello( libtard doooshbag) at the R&R hall of fame concert I agree.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-mq0uJ7rlM

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Iffin your talking about the live version with Tom Morello( libtard doooshbag) at the R&R hall of fame concert I agree.
I like the studio version as well...
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:14 PM   #10
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Good move.

I can honestly say of my sizaeable collection one'll not find anything by this half-pint big mouth boor. In fact IF an 'entertainer' opens their yap concerning their politics they're instanly scratched from my list so fast it isn't funny. They're the right to speak their crap, aright; but, NOT on my time *or* dime.


i have about 1,800 cd's never owned a brat-liar springsteen album/cd in my life. snapped in half the cd's of all the csny, neil young, jefferson airplane, etc. crap i had -- i cannot stomach the likes of those jerks anymore. i got rid of 'em out of my life (now ex-friends & ex-associations) over the past few years, why hold the remnants as entertainers around in my collection......can't stand listening to clowns no matter what medium they're in. most of the young stuff out there is all progressive-liberal crap, and i spend zero time on them.

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BS is over rated..
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We all know that the newbie rich entertainers, get on the box, stand on there heads and
talk. But got a slew of investment advisors making sure they don't play with there
blue collar and lower fan base. But most of those fans are so simple minded they
can't smell chit if it was rubbed under there noses.
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I'm so gosh darn sick of hearing about this. Getting a farm assessment isn't a "loop hole," it's perfectly legitimate and tons of people do it. Property taxes are so freaking expensive here, the towns WANT to offer the farm tax assessment, or nobody would actually buy any properties. Either people pay the farm tax rate, or they move elsewhere. Calling him a tax dodger over this is completely ignorant.

I actually bought my border collie from a couple that had a farm assessment, they met the $500 a year limit with the wool from a few sheep. So my pup came pre-trained how to herd sheep.
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I'm so gosh darn sick of hearing about this. Getting a farm assessment isn't a "loop hole," it's perfectly legitimate and tons of people do it. Property taxes are so freaking expensive here, the towns WANT to offer the farm tax assessment, or nobody would actually buy any properties. Either people pay the farm tax rate, or they move elsewhere. Calling him a tax dodger over this is completely ignorant.

I actually bought my border collie from a couple that had a farm assessment, they met the $500 a year limit with the wool from a few sheep. So my pup came pre-trained how to herd sheep.
You need to go back and read the article. No one is calling him a tax dodger. They're calling him a hypocrite for criticizing the government for "providing tax cuts for the rich" while he, a rich man, takes advantage of similar tax breaks, all while pretending to be some kind of blue collar hero. Seems a fair charge to me.
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...most of the young stuff out there is all progressive-liberal crap, and i spend zero time on them.
Or money.

I "vote" each & every time I purchase anything. We all do, consciously or not and here's a chance to cast your personal ballot.

As a boomer I clearly recall when it took over a million albums for it to go 'gold' and several millions to go 'platinum'. Most of the great, and even not-so great artists were assured to go at least 'gold' inside the first week of release, if not month.

Have you seen what passes for a 'hit' in the music industry, today?
It's flat-out laughable.
The Liberal-Socialist-Communists may control the 'distribution' of music now, but they're paying an enrmous price for their leftist loyalty.

However, IF you've XM?
Try "Spectrum" (forgot the channel #).
Can't believe the number of great rock muscisins out there we do NOT hear from the mainstream unless one subscribes to a XM, Sirius or Sonic Tap. Try it, you'll see what I mean.

Not all hope's lost just because a few select *&* deranged anti-American fruitballs control radio/TV etc. The American spirit & creativity cannot and will not be regulated or oteriwse held-down.
No way, Jose'.
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You need to go back and read the article. No one is calling him a tax dodger. They're calling him a hypocrite for criticizing the government for "providing tax cuts for the rich" while he, a rich man, takes advantage of similar tax breaks, all while pretending to be some kind of blue collar hero. Seems a fair charge to me.
What does being rich have to do with it? If the state suddenly forced him to pay a regular property tax, he would just leave. I don't see him as being a hypocrite at all. A farm assessment isn't a "tax break," it's just the tax rate.
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Paying $143,000 a year in property taxes sounds like a pretty fair sum to me.

While evading taxes is a big no no, there is nothing wrong with avoiding them.

If you don't like the consequences of the laws the way they are written, get them changed.

What is funny though is the way the Democrats were really going after John Runyon for taking full advantage of this huge loophole in the property tax laws.
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I'm so gosh darn sick of hearing about this. Getting a farm assessment isn't a "loop hole," it's perfectly legitimate and tons of people do it. Property taxes are so freaking expensive here, the towns WANT to offer the farm tax assessment, or nobody would actually buy any properties. Either people pay the farm tax rate, or they move elsewhere. Calling him a tax dodger over this is completely ignorant.

I actually bought my border collie from a couple that had a farm assessment, they met the $500 a year limit with the wool from a few sheep. So my pup came pre-trained how to herd sheep.


Good post Red.........

If enough people don't like the law, then change it.
It's not like there aren't any conservative farmers in NJ.

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Or money.

I "vote" each & every time I purchase anything. We all do, consciously or not and here's a chance to cast your personal ballot.

As a boomer I clearly recall when it took over a million albums for it to go 'gold' and several millions to go 'platinum'. Most of the great, and even not-so great artists were assured to go at least 'gold' inside the first week of release, if not month.

Have you seen what passes for a 'hit' in the music industry, today?
It's flat-out laughable.
The Liberal-Socialist-Communists may control the 'distribution' of music now, but they're paying an enrmous price for their leftist loyalty.

However, IF you've XM?
Try "Spectrum" (forgot the channel #).
Can't believe the number of great rock muscisins out there we do NOT hear from the mainstream unless one subscribes to a XM, Sirius or Sonic Tap. Try it, you'll see what I mean.

Not all hope's lost just because a few select *&* deranged anti-American fruitballs control radio/TV etc. The American spirit & creativity cannot and will not be regulated or oteriwse held-down.
No way, Jose'.
no XM here, it's a luxury i don't allow myself to have. i sock away everything i can and spend very little to almost nothing extra on myself -- been that away for 25+ years straight and get more fanatical as time rolls on. my idea of a grand vacation is a six-pack or two, or a gallon platic jug of draft beer from the local bar, just once a week on a weekend. that's about it.

i mostly spend time on that expansive progressive rock or metal / art rock stuff that talks little to no politics and is mainly instrumental in nature.....as far as big names of yore, bands like Yes that kmost here probably relate to......and tons of other stuff and stuff like Fair To Midland, Spock's Beard, Tangerine Dream --- and the much more esoteric like Pelican, Baroness, Ozric Tentacles, etc.
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