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Old 06-29-2011, 08:43 AM   #1
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This is confusing. Petty no doubt is far left in his thinking. Hussein and his followers believe in redistribution of wealth. That's what is going on here. They, the left (including Petty), want to take from the rich and redistribute to those that are less fortunate. He wrote a song and should be more than willing to let others enjoy his fruits of labor. After all, isn't that what he wants us to do?



It's not a campaign if a rock star doesn't get mad about a politician using their music without permission.

Following in the steps of David Byrne v. Charlie Crist and other legendary artist versus candidate smack downs, Tom Petty is reportedly preparing to take legal action against Michele Bachmann's campaign, after she played his 1977 hit "American Girl" at her 2012 announcement rally in Iowa Monday.

Petty's manager tells NBC's Kelly O'Donnell the rocker wasn't pleased about the use of the song and is planning to send a cease-and-desist letter over the matter. It's the second time Petty has asked a GOP politician to stop playing his music. During the 2004 campaign, Petty issued a similar letter to George W. Bush's re-election campaign after it played the singer's hit, "I Won't Back Down," at political events.

Usually, a cease-and-desist letter settles the matter, but the legal spats can get nasty. In 2008, Jackson Browne sued the Republican National Committee, Ohio Republican Party, and John McCain's campaign for an ad the Ohio GOP ran featuring his song, "Running on Empty." When the parties couldn't get the lawsuit dismissed, McCain publicly apologized.

Earlier this year, as The Ticket previously reported, Byrne sued Crist's campaign for playing a Talking Heads song in an ad against his then-GOP opponent Marco Rubio during the 2010 campaign. Earlier this year, the suit was settled after Crist recorded a pretty embarrassing video apology for using the song, "Road To Nowhere," without Byrne's permission.

A spokeswoman for Bachmann's campaign did not respond to a request for comment.
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i also wouldn't let a person that doesn't believe in evolution and who says god told her to run for president use my song.
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So Tom Petty's music can only be played by the left? Guess he shouldnt have put it up for sale for all to purchase. If they paid the royalites for the music to be played at the event, then there shouldnt be anything he can do about it. IMO that is.
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i also wouldn't let a person that doesn't believe in evolution and who says god told her to run for president use my song.
What about all the redistribution of wealth that goes on. Those that get your money or you getting someone else's money and you or they purchase things that the other disagrees? Evidently, you're ok with that . You think redistribution is a buffet line?
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When Chrissie Hines tried to sue Rush Limbaugh over the use of her song (his opening song) he told her to pound sand. He was paying the royalties and it is in the public domain. Tough s***.
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So Tom Petty's music can only be played by the left? Guess he shouldnt have put it up for sale for all to purchase. If they paid the royalites for the music to be played at the event, then there shouldnt be anything he can do about it. IMO that is.
No pay to play.
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Petty also did this before with other politicians...whatever.
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If the venue paid the royalties........
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I would rather musicians complain about people (politicians) using their music than for them to stand on stage and spew their political views.
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How about this: Petty and Nugent

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As long as they paid their ASCAP fees, Petty doesn't really have any say in the matter.
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As long as they paid their ASCAP fees, Petty doesn't really have any say in the matter.
That is my point.
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i also wouldn't let a person that doesn't believe in evolution and who says god told her to run for president use my song.
As opposed to Allah telling your idol urkel to run.
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As long as I paid for the song I can play it wherever whenever I wish. Ascap has nothing to do with it.

Note to self.

No more downloads of Tom Petty songs. I will cease and desist. No problem.
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i also wouldn't let a person that doesn't believe in evolution and who says god told her to run for president use my song.
I doubt you have a song so what's your point?

I have a few, who actually mention God. Quite good actually!
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So, with Bachmann and Bush were the songs they used played in their entirety for the crowd to enjoy? Or was it a small clip from the song played as someone walked on stage?

I assume it was the latter and that sounds to me like fair use of a popular song.
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As long as I paid for the song I can play it wherever whenever I wish. Ascap has nothing to do with it.

Well, no. When you bought the CD or audio file you did not acquire unlimited rights to broadcast or re-transmit the music. You can use the recording for your own personal use, but to legally play it in your restaurant or other business, you need to pay for a license.

Copyright law applied to music is especially complex because there are different rights holders. The songwriter, music composer, and performer may all have different rights. Most are represented by ASCAP or BMI.

Even "Happy Birthday to You" is protected by copyright. ASCAP reps the owners. I don't think they're going to break down your door if you sing it in your kitchen on your kid's birthday, but if you sing it in a scene in a movie that gets to the Academy Awards, you can bet you'll
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When Chrissie Hines tried to sue Rush Limbaugh over the use of her song (his opening song) he told her to pound sand. He was paying the royalties and it is in the public domain. Tough s***.
Actually the record company would not let him use it. Hines did not know anything about it, but when she was asked, she said it was fine because even though she did not agree with him, her parents were big fans of Rush and so she had no problem with it. She told the record company (who never even consulted her) that it was ok.
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As long as I paid for the song I can play it wherever whenever I wish. Ascap has nothing to do with it.
Incorrect... when you purchase a song, you have a license to play it for your own personal use (ever read the fine print?).

However, to be played in a public venue, the venue must pay a fee to ASCAP to publicly use the song.
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Well, no. When you bought the CD or audio file you did not acquire unlimited rights to broadcast or re-transmit the music. You can use the recording for your own personal use, but to legally play it in your restaurant or other business, you need to pay for a license.

Copyright law applied to music is especially complex because there are different rights holders. The songwriter, music composer, and performer may all have different rights. Most are represented by ASCAP or BMI.

Even "Happy Birthday to You" is protected by copyright. ASCAP reps the owners. I don't think they're going to break down your door if you sing it in your kitchen on your kid's birthday, but if you sing it in a scene in a movie that gets to the Academy Awards, you can bet you'll
be getting a call from one of ASCAP's lawyers.
I believe there is a making money off it thingy. I would fight this one. Rush is a different matter though because he is making money from his show. Politicians aren't making money from it's use.

I could be convinced if someone posted up the actual law that applies to it. Until then it doesn't matter, I DGAF.

I would also be interested to know if campaigns actually pay ASCAP licensing fees. If they do not, then do they receive individual permission, if they do not and it is a copyright infringement, then there is precedent set that it's ok, or it's not ok.

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