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Richard454 04-19-2010 11:49 AM

Corvette V12? The BUILD....
 
If you've been around a while- you've seen this one-

A Pacecar w/ a Jag V12-



https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...e67e31bc6e.jpg



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...cddac96612.jpg


Boy-this guy gets flamed....
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...h-the-v12.html


And here's my idea/ project a BMW V12- NO frame mods/NO firewall mods/ Stock motor mount bolted to a mount I made that bolts to the stock V12 block mounts- Will even fit under a small block hood....


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...6727f7bff7.jpg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...d17ff42290.jpg

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...d36a0df15a.jpg




It fits- w/ no real issues-


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...a95a40cb00.jpg



https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...cbdc1a6c1e.jpg


What do you think??? Or Flame away......

Richard

jordan89 04-19-2010 11:59 AM

It's definitely something I've never seen done. I wouldn't do that to my Vette. He should have just built his original engine.

Hauq` 04-19-2010 12:22 PM

That is one of the coolest swaps I've seen. I'd do that in a heartbeat if I found that engine before I built mine. Is he able to run a manual transmission behind it?

SteveG75 04-19-2010 12:36 PM

Jag V-12's are nice but down on power compared to a small block Chevy.

GM did try a Falconer V-12 in a C4. 601 cubic inch, 660-horsepower and 782 ft./lb. of torque.
http://www.corvettereport.com/corvet...ette/#more-799
http://www.corvettereport.com/wp-con...12cylinder.jpg

Richard454 04-19-2010 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by SteveG75 (Post 1573807672)
Jag V-12's are nice but down on power compared to a small block Chevy.
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Jag V12 are nice- but about as heavy as a Cast Iron big block (685lbs)

However- the BMW V12 I'm gonna run with weighs in about 500lbs- fully dressed - A little more than a LS1.

As far as power goes- About 300HP in stock form. I've pulled all the accessories (A/C & P/S) and setting it up w/ a dry sump-a little clean up and I really will only see about 350HP. So- really close to what my original LS-5 made back in the day.

Hauq- Manual transmission is not a problem- The BMW 850's came w/ a 6 speed-and they are not too tough to find.

Richard

Shark Racer 04-19-2010 01:21 PM

Can you get it to 850CSi trim? :D

TheFinn 04-19-2010 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Richard454 (Post 1573807087)
What do you think???

I like it! :thumbs: :cheers:

gerry72 04-19-2010 01:44 PM

That's pretty cool for sure. I'd like to hear the exhaust note on the thing.

73StreetRace 04-19-2010 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by gerry72 (Post 1573808391)
That's pretty cool for sure. I'd like to hear the exhaust note on the thing.

Me too ! That's an unbelievable engine. Nice pictures ! :thumbs:

MN-Brent 04-19-2010 02:10 PM

You should go for it and set up a thread to show us your progress on the way. Sounds like a lot of fun!! :cheers:

MotorHead 04-19-2010 02:35 PM

It's :cool: but the low HP would deter me :cheers:

larryg3 04-19-2010 03:40 PM

go for it and post progress pics.

Snoopysvet 04-19-2010 03:55 PM

I bet it will sound awesome

Bowerss2 04-19-2010 04:15 PM

i like it!

Richard454 04-19-2010 04:55 PM

Thanks - I will keep the pics coming





Originally Posted by MotorHead (Post 1573808929)
It's :cool: but the low HP would deter me :cheers:

Everywhere I go- Somebody will always say/claim they (or a buddy/cousin/neighbor- etc) has more horsepower....

Very few can say they have a V12!!!!




As far as more HP-or 850 CSI motor- it gets expensive $1300 cams times two...Stroker crank $4000. Chips are $400 but only worth 30HP.

I got the motor out of a 1990 750IL - on the cheap- I bought the complete car for $700 (yes-Running and driving- original paint never wrecked)


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...2c5799f3a2.jpg


Here's one of the swaps that gave me the idea-
Is a Datsun 240/280Z w/ a GTO replica body on it and a BMW V12 powering it-


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...2d66d3368e.jpg



https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...18359cccaa.jpg

TheSaint 04-19-2010 05:00 PM

When putting that BMW V12 in, there got to be a lot of electrical work to be done? Much more than putting the engine in?
Should have been a CSI engine but i suppose thats a lot more $

Richard454 04-19-2010 05:23 PM

Actually- thanks to reading the Lambo Kit Car building forms- these guys have mapped out all the wires. I'm using the stock computers (1 for each bank of 6cyl and one that syncs them-3 total).

Before I pulled the motor - I clipped wires and made sure everything worked correctly- I even wired the electronic throttle under the hood and made sure it worked-

Electronic throttle-
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...5/P1010248.jpg

In addition to the six wires for the drive by wire throttle- have only 3 check light bulbs to wire- power/switched ignition/ ground and fuel pumps (2). It's really not that tough.

The dry sump has also been done before- BMW uses a two part oil pan and I just have to cut a piece for the lower pan- add some hoses/pump and tank.

http://members.core.com/~sysadmin/personal/BMW_oila.jpg
http://members.core.com/~sysadmin/personal/BMW_oilf.jpg
http://members.core.com/~sysadmin/pe...-drysump10.jpg

Bee Jay 04-19-2010 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Richard454 (Post 1573810421)
Thanks - I will keep the pics coming






Everywhere I go- Somebody will always say/claim they (or a buddy/cousin/neighbor- etc) has more horsepower....

Very few can say they have a V12!!!!




As far as more HP-or 850 CSI motor- it gets expensive $1300 cams times two...Stroker crank $4000. Chips are $400 but only worth 30HP.

I got the motor out of a 1990 750IL - on the cheap- I bought the complete car for $700 (yes-Running and driving- original paint never wrecked)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...4/P1010225.jpg

Here's one of the swaps that gave me the idea-
Is a Datsun 240/280Z w/ a GTO replica body on it and a BMW V12 powering it-

http://members.core.com/~sysadmin/pe...O_07_0023a.jpg

http://members.core.com/~sysadmin/pe...O_07_0070a.jpg

That's a good looking replica. I wonder why they didn't put a Ferrari V12 in it?
Bee Jay

Ganey 04-19-2010 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Richard454 (Post 1573810421)
Very few can say they have a V12!!!!

V-12s are cool, but it's power & performance that counts!!!!!!!!!!
:cool:

:cheers:

72LS1Vette 04-19-2010 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by Ganey (Post 1573812187)
V-12s are cool, but it's power & performance that counts!!!!!!!!!!
:cool:

:cheers:

:iagree: That engine scores high on the uniqueness scale but if you want performance equal to that go with a lightly modified LS engine.

:cheers:

Rick B.


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