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clarkakirby 10-10-2010 04:57 PM

Automatic vs Manual Trans
 
I have a 2010 Grand Sport with the A6/paddle shifters. I read somewhere that the manual cars have a transaxle but the automatic trans cars do not. That is, the automatic trans is bolted to the rear of the engine in Grand Sports. Anyone know?

kwickag 10-10-2010 05:19 PM

The transmission is in the rear on both.

last901 10-10-2010 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by clarkakirby (Post 1575578669)
I have a 2010 Grand Sport with the A6/paddle shifters. I read somewhere that the manual cars have a transaxle but the automatic trans cars do not. That is, the automatic trans is bolted to the rear of the engine in Grand Sports. Anyone know?

Seems to me I read that somewhere too.

Crawl under the car and look

tim414 10-10-2010 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by last901 (Post 1575578944)
Seems to me I read that somewhere too.

Crawl under the car and look

Hey man, I believe ALL C6's, whether base, GS, Z06 or ZR1 are REAR mounted trannies.

TCW 10-10-2010 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by clarkakirby (Post 1575578669)
That is, the automatic trans is bolted to the rear of the engine in Grand Sports. Anyone know?

Wrong! The slushbox is mounted to the differential. :cheers:

Tom

last901 10-10-2010 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by tim414 (Post 1575579288)
Hey man, I believe ALL C6's, whether base, GS, Z06 or ZR1 are REAR mounted trannies.

Hey man? Gee, that sort of salutation really gives you away as an authority...

Frankly, I don't care if the damn transmission is in the glove compartment. I'm just agreeing with the OP that I seem to recall reading that the A6 was mounted behind the engine. Admittedly I may have misread something having to do with the manual transmission GS cars being fitted with the dry sump engine and the automatics not.

Sorry if I insulted your intelligence... man.
You may very well be right...man.
Peace...man

rovers2000 10-10-2010 07:28 PM

you are correct all trannies are in the rear.:iagree:

ninjavette 10-10-2010 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by last901 (Post 1575579847)
Hey man? Gee, that sort of salutation really gives you away as an authority...

Frankly, I don't care if the damn transmission is in the glove compartment. I'm just agreeing with the OP that I seem to recall reading that the A6 was mounted behind the engine. Admittedly I may have misread something having to do with the manual transmission GS cars being fitted with the dry sump engine and the automatics not.

Sorry if I insulted your intelligence... man.
You may very well be right...man.
Peace...man

http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17466.gif I think you're being a little over sensitive. I don't see where his comment can be interpreted as him talking down to anyone.....man ;)


:cheers:

last901 10-10-2010 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by ninjavette (Post 1575580442)
http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17466.gif I think you're being a little over sensitive. I don't see where his comment can be interpreted as him talking down to anyone.....man ;)


:cheers:

Yes, you're probably right. It's the bad thing about Email and forum responses.

No offense intended,

ninjavette 10-10-2010 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by last901 (Post 1575580462)
Yes, you're probably right. It's the bad thing about Email and forum responses.

No offense intended,

:iagree: Unfortunately this form of communication eliminates that very important aspect of how something is said. :cheers:

Anyway, the drive train layout of all C6s is the same. Engine in front, trans and diff in rear. I'm not sure where this misinformation is coming from but it's also not the first I've heard/read it either. It seems someone out there is trying to confuse us. :crazy:

Vette5.5 10-10-2010 09:28 PM

All C5/C6 transmissions are mounted in the rear, whether automatic or manual. None can truely be called a transaxle, as even the manuals gear case is isolated from the diffential's and does not share the same lubricating oil.

grump 10-10-2010 09:32 PM

Thats right
 
:cheers::cheers:

FrankTank 10-10-2010 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by Vette5.5 (Post 1575581109)
All C5/C6 transmissions are mounted in the rear, whether automatic or manual. None can truely be called a transaxle, as even the manuals gear case is isolated from the diffential's and does not share the same lubricating oil.

:iagree::iagree: Moving the trans to the rear is one of the key things that helps balance the car out( C5 and C6). Both Autos and Manuals are in the rear.

jschindler 10-10-2010 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by last901 (Post 1575579847)
Hey man? Gee, that sort of salutation really gives you away as an authority...

Frankly, I don't care if the damn transmission is in the glove compartment. I'm just agreeing with the OP that I seem to recall reading that the A6 was mounted behind the engine. Admittedly I may have misread something having to do with the manual transmission GS cars being fitted with the dry sump engine and the automatics not.

Sorry if I insulted your intelligence... man.
You may very well be right...man.
Peace...man

Heeeey sweet cheeks, I just want you to know that all C6 transmissions are in the rear of the car------ewwww, that is so fine..............

Is that how you wanted to hear it? :lol:

Marc V. 10-11-2010 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by Vette5.5 (Post 1575581109)
All C5/C6 transmissions are mounted in the rear, whether automatic or manual. None can truely be called a transaxle, as even the manuals gear case is isolated from the diffential's and does not share the same lubricating oil.

:iagree: That is 100% correct. :smash:

A true "transaxle" has the final drive gears in the same case as the transmission gears, as in a front wheel drive car.

In a C5 and C6, the final drive is a seperate unit.

Cratchet 10-11-2010 01:05 AM

While we're on the subject, is the linkage from the shifter via cable?

Or some other method?

Thanks!
Mike

haljensen 10-11-2010 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by Cratchet (Post 1575582724)
While we're on the subject, is the linkage from the shifter via cable?

Or some other method?

Thanks!
Mike

Shifting on the Manual C6 is by a single rod from the shift lever to the transmission. That single rod gives 3 positions in and out and an additional 4 positions by rotating.

See5see6 10-11-2010 01:53 AM

In Corvette Magazine, Issue #60, October 2010, an article beginning on page 42 wrongly states that automatic transmission equipped Grand Sports have "the gearbox mounted directly behind the engine instead of at the rear axle as it in on a manual tranmission-equipped car"....................

In their Issue #61, December 2010, on page 12 they straighten out their error.

So perhaps that is what got some confusion started. Even a classy (my opinion) mag. like Corvette Magazine can and will make errors once in awhile.

Marc V. 10-11-2010 02:10 AM


Originally Posted by See5see6 (Post 1575582857)
Even a classy (my opinion) mag. like Corvette Magazine can and will make errors once in awhile.

:rolleyes: Isn't that what they pay an editor for? :toetap:

See5see6 10-11-2010 02:19 AM

Perhaps so. Maybe the editor was having a bad day. Maybe he just goofed. The editor did apologize. My post was more in support of the original post by clarkakirby than it was to defend Corvette Magazine.

HOXXOH 10-11-2010 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by Marc V. (Post 1575582891)
:rolleyes: Isn't that what they pay an editor for? :toetap:

It's the proofreader's job to catch mistakes. He's near the bottom pay grade. The editor is like a general manager near the top of the pile.

b4i4getit 10-11-2010 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by See5see6 (Post 1575582857)
In Corvette Magazine, Issue #60, October 2010, an article beginning on page 42 wrongly states that automatic transmission equipped Grand Sports have "the gearbox mounted directly behind the engine instead of at the rear axle as it in on a manual tranmission-equipped car"....................

In their Issue #61, December 2010, on page 12 they straighten out their error.

So perhaps that is what got some confusion started. Even a classy (my opinion) mag. like Corvette Magazine can and will make errors once in awhile.


We are in October and you have a December issue ? That seems a bit strange.

See5see6 10-11-2010 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by b4i4getit (Post 1575585490)
We are in October and you have a December issue ? That seems a bit strange.

Yeah, who can figure the way publishers do things? But here it is. Issue #61, December, 2010. I've had it for almost a week now. Pretty much read it dry. By December we will probably have April, 2011. :D

Kontra06 10-11-2010 02:37 PM

I'm having some exhaust work done this weekend. Guess I need to get a good look of the underside while its 'uppen da air'. Also I can see where the lifting pucks go and where I need to clean the sway bars and stuff.

clarkakirby 10-11-2010 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by See5see6 (Post 1575582857)
In Corvette Magazine, Issue #60, October 2010, an article beginning on page 42 wrongly states that automatic transmission equipped Grand Sports have "the gearbox mounted directly behind the engine instead of at the rear axle as it in on a manual tranmission-equipped car".In their Issue #61, December 2010, on page 12 they straighten out their error. So perhaps that is what got some confusion started.

That must be where I read it. I am the original poster (OP) and just last night read the most recent issue of Corvette Magazine where they correct their error.
-Clark

clarkakirby 10-11-2010 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Vette5.5 (Post 1575581109)
All C5/C6 transmissions are mounted in the rear, whether automatic or manual. None can truely be called a transaxle, as even the manuals gear case is isolated from the diffential's and does not share the same lubricating oil.

OK, then, we should say that our cars have a rear-mounted transmission (automatic or manual), not a transaxle. Whatever the distinction, I am sure it is for better weight distribution. I love the way my GS handles at local track days. If you want to "drift" it, no problem! -Clark

JoesC5 10-11-2010 03:06 PM

I say the C5/C6 has a transaxle. There is no definition that says they have to share the same fluid, only that both the transmission and the differential are integrated into a single unit. Since the Corvette's transmission and differential are one unit(bolted together and the output shaft of the transmission is also the pinion gear shaft, they are, as defined, a single unit.

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ide/index.html


"The rest of the C5's mechanicals are equally unique in design and engineering. The transmission, mounted directly to the rear transaxle,................"

haljensen 10-11-2010 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by JoesC5 (Post 1575587724)
I say the C5/C6 has a transaxle. There is no definition that says they have to share the same fluid, only that both the transmission and the differential are integrated into a single unit. Since the Corvette's transmission and differential are one unit(bolted together and the output shaft of the transmission is also the pinion gear shaft, they are, as defined, a single unit.

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ide/index.html


"The rest of the C5's mechanicals are equally unique in design and engineering. The transmission, mounted directly to the rear transaxle,................"

More of GM's B.S. Adspeak. The definition for transaxle is and always has been ONE shared housing and ONE shared fluid for both transmission and differential. Since the C5 and C6 have a separate transmission housing using a different fluid than the separate differential the definition fails on both counts.

DriverC6 10-11-2010 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by haljensen (Post 1575589574)
More of GM's B.S. Adspeak. The definition for transaxle is and always has been ONE shared housing and ONE shared fluid for both transmission and differential. Since the C5 and C6 have a separate transmission housing using a different fluid than the separate differential the definition fails on both counts.

:iagree:Corvette setup is a nice improvement over trans mounted to engine but it is not a "transaxle".

Cratchet 10-11-2010 06:30 PM

It's a "dry sump" transaxle? J/K

need-for-speed 10-11-2010 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Kontra06 (Post 1575587395)
I'm having some exhaust work done this weekend. Guess I need to get a good look of the underside while its 'uppen da air'. Also I can see where the lifting pucks go and where I need to clean the sway bars and stuff.


Since you mentioned pucks - you probably already know, but be sure they know how to lift your C6 w/o cracking the rocker panels.


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