Post your final c7 predictions here
 

...so that we can all see how wrong (or right) we all were. Post if you dare...:D

I'll start.

1. C7 rear will look NOTHING like camaro
2. All the fat will be trimmed off the C7...it will look much more compact than all generations before it.
3. Car will be significantly narrower and taller. (Think GT-R with a slanted front end design)
4. Most older "traditional" corvette guys/gals will not like it
5. Here is my big one...optional rear foldable seat of some sort. (Yeah, I said it) :eek:

Base price will be equal to current C6 GS base price.

:flag:

So it's going to get smaller, yet still find room for a 2nd row seat? Is the outside shaped like a police call box?

:rock:

I predict I will see it on 1-13...

Put me down for:
C7 rear will look nothing like Camaro.
NO rear seat option.

So, what you simply saying, it will look like the jalopnik rendering ... !!

:leaving:

This is really the best reply.:iagree:

:rofl:

I predict the interior will be stunning! Beautiful compared to past generations

It'll be a very very good performer for a base entry level car.

I still won't like the back window. The rear will be acceptable at best.

Skinnier tires will take the "cool badass" stance from it.

I think ill really fall for the front end.

Very good mpg ratings and even better in real world use.

Is it Sunday yet?

If it looks just like jalopnik renderings I'll be pretty upset that we've seen the car sooo long ago and nothing was a surprise :(

My prediction: it'll look stunning and a whole bunch of previously unhappy C6 owners will put in their deposit Monday morning.

No back seats or any of that and you'll have to squint very hard to confuse the taillights with a Camaro. :thumbs:

standby...

I could not say this to your face Paul because I would have to salute you and keep my mouth shut until you allowed me to speak but this is the internet so....Have you lost your mind ??????? Lets start with "taller". You know that I stare at these photos for hours and the C7 looks lower and smaller if anything..

I'm against 4 seats, but what do you think of this: instead of foldable rear seats, simply a short and a long model? Some say not to read too much into the banner, but the car seems longer than normal to me, with some junk in the trunk.

I predict January 13th will end the crackpot theories but dramatically increase the vitriol.

What was GM thinking?
Camaro taillights!
No back seat!
Looks like a ___!
No AWD!
Pushrods!
Four-cylinder!
No DCT!

For every old member who quits complaining after seeing the real car, five new members will drop in who are just as angry and just as vocal.

.Jinx

I predict, that Tim Tebow is going to have more QB time next season. Also, the San Diego Chargers will have another run for two more years before being swallowed up by another team. Yes, I said it.

oh come on John, what kind of military man do you think I am.

As for the C7, I am going with GT-R size interior cockpit with more headroom (taller roof/taller windshield). GM has something up their sleeve with this car. There will be shock and awe value, and it won't only be due to the new exterior styling. They extended that rear hatch that far back for a reason.

I cannot wait for the Sunday. I am waking up in the wee hours of the morning here in Bahrain to watch the live video stream.

it will be like the Model T
have 4 wheels and a steering wheel

I Agree with the GT-R style cockpit, also with a GT-R style multifunctional display that is useful.

http://www.caranddriver.com/photos-0...ay-photo-53131

http://dailyexhaust.com/2010/01/niss...r-display.html

I hope the display graphics look a little more modern than that. That is so ugly. In fact, the whole dash is ugly. It's chopped up. :leaving:

Michael

Taller... hmmm...

Is it rumored that it will be taller and or narrower?

It has been rumored to be narrower for a while.

Not rumored to be taller AFAIK. I think it could be a little lower.

interesting I would not think they would want to narrow it which would probably mean less grip. I'd also like to see it lower.

I think it has something to do with trying to increase their sales in Europe. Their streets are pretty darn tight in many places. You could argue that some BMWs are big pigs. I'm not sure what to reply to that.

There is a more concrete reason to believe that. The early mules used a C6 GS body, and the wheels were not filling the wheel wells because they were located too deep inside the body.

I think it will have 911 type rear seats as an option. They could do like Porsche where you have to pay extra in the GT3 RS to remove the rear seats, AC, and radio. I think I will wait for the C7 FF 4dr. Since GM is copying the F12, a C7 FF is around the corner, lol.

I could not wait any longer, so I contacted the "Long Island Medium", here is what she said.

1. Base engine V6
2. Like Porsche there will be a 4 door model.
3. The A/T is being replaced with CVT.
4. There will be a ZR1 version, which will use an update of the old Bugatti 60 valve engine.
............should I go on?

As long as I can get it streaming on my laptop and TV.....:rofl:

See you in a few days Garret. :cheers:

That's why my iPad is tethered to my iPhone :D. Instant hotspot anywhere, anytime! :woohoo:

800 hp / 750 tq
2000 lbs
Third row seating
6 camaro tail lights

:woohoo: :rock: :woohoo: :rock:

Camaro taillights will replace headlights. There will Camaro taillights front and back!

2nd row seat option would not suprise me, however, it would be for groceries and small children only......911 does it, why not C7?

OK, I'll play:

1. 3,000 pounds (+/- 50) in BASE trim
2. Narrower front tires (than a base C6) because of lower weight and to decrease tramlining
3. 465 HP
4. No AFM on manual transmission
5. Much improved interior (that's an easy one)
6. More color choices than C6
7. F55 standard
8. Battery in back
9. NO BACK SEAT
10. MSRP $52,000

Jimmy

Great list! I'll go along with all but I just don't buy that they would give F55 as standard equipment AND the HP...I'm on record with 496 hp and I will stick with it no matter how bad a guess it is.

you can bet that if the Viper shrunk so will the Corvette...GM wants this car to have universal appeal and that means it needs to "fit" on their streets.

Yup, the C6 was smaller than the C5 and the C7 will be smaller than the C6. Tom Peters has said they wanted the C6 smaller so it do better on the streets overseas.

I can only imagine that the later C6 wide bodies kind of flew in the face of that effort.

That's because with the C6 the primary market was still the US....this however will change with the C7 which could mean no more wide body Corvette :eek:

Standard AL frame !

ok, I'll play too...whatheheck....

An infotainment screen that will drive owners nuts with quirky glitches, unresponsive touch controls, and voice commands that get no response, or one completely opposite of what was requested. (think Ford MyTouch...I have one and it drives me crazy!:ack:)

An awful body color , such as a metallic white or a phlegm green....which seems to be mandatory now with all new cars:ack:

Runflats will continue to be the factory default tire:ack:

that's it for now...:cheers:

:D I hope it has a crank to start the engine, for safety a decal to remind you to retard the spark prior to cranking. I hate when the engine kicks back.

That's what I think could happen. The C6 was the first generation to do this wide stuff. We'll just have to wait and see if it is the last.

Might be taller, here's a comparison of the c6 and one of the mules.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/memb...son-119281.jpg

:rofl:

Round tail lights, rear end that looks nothing like the "leaked" renderings, front fascia looks very close to the MT pictures, 465HP in base engine, better interior/seats, but no fold-down rear seat...at least not for '14.

My prediction is that it will not look like any of the diversion tactic images (or mules)...........time will tell!

I've had people ask me if my C6 was one of the new Camaros. So, maybe to the highly discriminatory Corvette owner the tail lights won't look like Camaro tail lights but to the average person following a new vette it will be just another Camaro if the renderings are correct. Just as an example... As much as I've schooled my wife, she still can't tell the difference between a C3, C4, C5, C6 or even a Viper. Although, she does seem to recognize a Camaro when she sees one. So, if the new C7 tail lights are in any way at all, even slightly, Camaro-ish it will definitely confuse her.:lol:

My prediction is that the renderings we've seen will prove to be accurate. The interior will be a huge upgrade and the technology will be brought up to about 2010 standards. Still somewhat out of date but still a big improvement. As with all other generations the first impression will be to not quite like it (mostly because of the tail lights) but after a few months it will grow on almost everyone except the die hard haters (just like the change from C5 -> C6).

Hoping for the best, are we?

As far as runflats, Car and Driver said that Michelin won the battle over Goodyear for the C7 tire fitment, so, if true, that's great news.

Jimmy

yes, wouldn't it be cool to have a runflat delete option?:rock:

Ox,
I threw in F55 as standard because I'm HOPING it will be! It probably won't but I'll buy it anyway. It is the ONE option I will not do without.
And I hope you're right on the 496 HP, but that's quite a jump from "450 HP or more".

Jimmy

Yeah, it's totally wishful thinking, I'm sure.

I think we will find the lightest and most aerodynamic Corvette ever made :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs: :thumbs::thumbs:

It would. I have driven C6's with regular tires and it transforms the car. I was never brave enough to do it (install non-runflats), however.

By all accounts, the Michelin Pilot Sport runflats are vastly superior to any of the Goodyear RF's so let's hope C&D got that right.

Jimmy

If you are extrapolating the dimensions of the C7 based on the dimensions of the C6, it is important to use the correct dimensions of the C6.

The base C6 height is 49.1", not 47.1" or 45.6" as you indicate.

The overall length of the base C6 is 174.6", not 168.9" or 162.7" as you indicate.

The wheelbase of the C6 is 15.7", not 105.9" as you indicate.

The other problem is that you don't have a single one of those three dimensions of a C7 on which to use as a means of reference.

It's difficult to believe that GM would force an option(F55) that only 25% of the C6 buyers wanted, on 100% of the C7's buyers.

The wheelbase of a C6 is 15.7"?????

Very true, it's fine if F55 isn't standard, I'll just order then.

Jimmy

Lightest Corvette ever. The 1958 weighed 3050 lbs, the 2014 will weigh less than that. Considering everything that MUST be included in a modern vehicle, this is an impressive achievement

It does help to interpret what you're looking at in the correct context. Since there was no way to make a valid comparison on anything in any of the photo, the wheelbase was the driving force and the balance of the dimensions appear to represent lens distortion and camera perspective angles. Just a comparison, nothing scientific and no statements suggesting anything otherwise.

I think that Jalopnik got 90% of it right.

I dont know how they did it because GM did a Great job of hidding it until it was time.

They Put it in Grand Torismo and kept it masked (a move taken from the GTR) to get some Younger people interested.

They kept the Corvette Community alive with buzz.

They gave people just enough snap shots and created a " need to see".

End the end for them Sales count and they did every thing right... "NOW"... the car has to do the rest.

left out a 0. sorry

I predict we'll finally all be able to express our opinions without being accused of "premature criticism".:D Now it'll just be - "you don't agree with me, so you're wrong!" :yesnod:

:cheers:

I think the interior will be eons ahead of the C6 interior and performance will be on par with a Z06 up to 100mph.

Just like the C5 looks ancient compared to a C6 the C6 will soon be a ancient looking car too imo.

I don't see the car being after market friendly at all, but stock for stock should be awesome!!

C7
length is 1 inch shorter
width is same as base C6
Wheelbase 2 inch longer

2995 LBS.

HP 470 Gas 500 E85

2 seats only

It will look almost exactly like the 2011 Jalopnik render...

EXCEPT...

• Some of the aero adds will be missing (that was the "ZR1" render, if you remember)
• The sharp edges will be artfully smoothed, somewhat along the lines of the final MT render. That will make a huge difference and make the car appear more Ferrari-inspired than GTR-inspired
• The rear end will be the source of controversy. But, the smoothing and other details will make it fit with the rest of the car. Eventually, it will be viewed as the most uniquely Corvette part of the design and folks will not be happy with the first C8 renders

Performance will be nicely evolved but not "stunning:"

• 460 HP and 450 torque will be plenty with the 2995 lb. weight (but check the "fine print" on how the weight is calculated)
• 30 MPG hwy and 20 MPG city -- 23 combined
• Slightly narrower tries enhance MPG but don't hurt handling given lighter vehicle. Base car will achieve C6 GS handling and braking stats; accelleration thru 80 MPH will be very close to C6 Z06 but just short

I will love this thing; and will buy a 2014 in 2021 when I can afford it and the the prior owner has sorted out all the inevitable bugs. 25% of Forum members will not. It will sell better than the last 3 years of the C6 -- but it is unlikely the economy will be strong enough for this to be the huge success GM and the Vette team will be hoping for.

Thing is, you don't know what the wheelbase will be on the C7. And I doubt you know the width of the guys head. Since you show the width of the guys head, I'm assuming you either know him and he gave you his head measurement or you're guessing. Lets say his head is actually 7.5" in stead of the 7.2" you show that would be a 4.2% error and that would mean the height would be 49.1" instead of the 47.1" you show. That same error would mean the wheelbase of the C7 would be 110.1", not 107.1" that you show.

Why even make a comparison if you admit the results are meaningless.

According to the National Corvette Museum
http://www.corvettemuseum.org/librar...icle/1956b.htm

my 1956 Vette has a curb weight of 2875 pounds. I seriously doubt the C7 will come in under that.

PS- 1953 Vette has a curb weight of 2850 pounds.

It will look exactly like the leaked service manual drawing, that's my prediction and I'm sticking to it!!!!!!!

Same color, two dimensional and everything? :rofl: :willy: :rofl:

My prediction is this:

1) The C7 will retain the Corvette body that we all love. Its going to be low to the ground, wide powerful stance, massive wide tires, and NO Camaro tail lights. They will be round. The front eyes will take the shape of the new Ferrari's (similiar to the 458 Italia).

2) The C7 exhaust will be an upgrade from the NPP exhaust, but it still will be lacking a bit. There will still be a lot of us turning to Corsa, Borla, etc. for more sound.

3) The C7 interior will be a significant upgrade then before, and will remain a 2 seater.

4) The C7 will remain at an affordable price. Base starting around low $50Ks.

That's my prediction. Hope I am right.

weight: 3,075
HP:468
TQ:460

Yeah, it's great for cornering!:thumbs:

1:18 scale slot car, corners like it is on rails............:D

I'm pretty darned confidant that it will have at least 4 wheels.

No, it'll still be premature, until you've seen one in person.
...until you've sat in one.
...until you've driven one.
...until you've driven your own one.
...until you've picked up girls in one.
...until you've posted your 1/4-mile time.
...until you've done a track day on a respected road course.
...until you've road-tripped one across the country.
...until you've owned one for a month, then a year.
...until you've owned your second one...
...until the cows come home...

.Jinx

:rofl:

Ya forgot one -

...until the C8 pre release discussions start!

:cheers:

Oh man, driving cross country in a a new C7...:smiliedrool::yesnod::smiliedrool:

:iagree: I tried to tell him it would be radically different and he didn't buy it either.

Definition of radically or radical = Departing markedly from the usual or customary; extreme.

Favoring or effecting fundamental or revolutionary changes in current practices, conditions.

:iagree: My plan is just that driving my C7 cross country. My wife is going to Paris to visit Art museums , I am headed west to visit old friends and my brother in California. The Summer of 2014 will be Corvette Summer II for me ....:cheers:

OK -- will you be the first poster who is sure enough about this round light nonsense to put up a case of beer as a bet? I'll ship you Yuengling, you can even ship me Genny Cream Ale! (that's how confident I am.)

NOBODY has backed up their round light forecasts with even a case of beer -- a stinkin' case of beer! That is either ridiculous risk-aversion or a lack of confidence.

C'mon, man, what is it? :rofl: :cheers:

Heck I'll buy the beer. I could car less about the rear. Just love to buy beers and talk about great cars named Corvette.

:cheers:

My prediction is that we will be getting the C-8.

The U.S. Govt bailed out GM during the C6 production run and where did that money come from? The taxpayers.
I think GM wanted to pay us taxpayers back with a Vette that we weren't supposed to get..... just yet. :yesnod:

Where are you Paul? The tech guys have studied the new frame and say no extra seats.
What say you? :toetap::D

So what are you doing for the reveal?

John, I am in Bahrain +8 hour tiime difference from EST.

I am definetly no tech guy, and I have no "insider info" at all. Just a guy with a gut feeling that that GM has a couple big suprises up their sleeve...

The C7 won't be typical corvette status quo...

I will be glued to my big screen computer..I do not need to record it because it will be up on You Tube pronto.

Oh yes and sipping Yingling loger and dipping some nachos..:rock:

I predict shorter, lower, lighter, and faster but with more cabin room. I gotta believe that the mules with wraps have bogus or c6 panels hanging on the c7 frame. I say it looks similar to the "stingray" prototype. Kind of XLR ish with fender curves and a split or "stingray" type hatch.

Lutz says "radically different" = This might be "hyperbole" to quote Jinx..

Delorenzo says " new Corvette is a very,very good thing " = Coming from the curmudgeon Peter, I am confident this will be a great car !

Looks that way with the body seam shot.

The vette has been a model T since 1984 when it starting using front and back transverse springs same as model Ts, along with model T two valves per cylinder lol.

:iagree:

I've been thinking from the beginning that somehow all the leaked rear end pictures are really just a dupe??

I predict I will lust after the thing, and be p.o.'d every year that goes by, until I have one in my garage, so I can stay out in my garage all night and rub it with a microfiber towel. (the C7, I mean)

I predict I'm not buying one until dealers sell them at invoice.

Now, if we can get a very large number of us to group together and hold out, the price will come down sooner.

I predict a feeding frenzy from the aftermarket vendors as they all try to come up with the best rear fascia design.

One vendor will hit on the perfect rear fascia and then most new C7 buyers will have the new favorite rear fascia installed at the dealer before they leave the lot. :lol:

No way dude. 'Cause every C7 will come with a camo Pooper Cover.

There is a dealer in Maryland that will sell at list. Check the threads under C7

Every first year of a new generation has been 50 horsepower more than the previous. C4 LT1 was 300 I believe, C5 came in at 350 (50 hp more), then C6 came in at 400 (also 50 hp more). Based on that trend I'd say C7 will start at 450 to be 50 hp more than the first year C6, + 6 hp with the optional exhaust for 456 total.

Maybe few years down the road they'll increase it similar to what they did in 2008.

I predict the mag covers are pics of the same car, and that you are looking at the car you'll be seeing on Sunday.....and will be trucked to Barret-Jackson in Scottsdale, AZ next week :)

:iagree:Yep, GM's got everyone fooled this time! (let's hope so)

Well you got 1 out of 5. :smash::hide:

Actually, I got #1, #2, and #4 right. If you are going to call me out, at least be accurate. For the record, I think the new design is beautiful. 300x better looking than the base C6 and 1000x better looking than the base C5.

The "Z" model will be insane!

For all you guys still comparing this car to the camaro, you've stated your case and now I will state mine...

You are all either blind, insane, or jealous. One of the three.

So, we're not allowed to just plain dislike it because of the styling?

Chill out and grab some sack time, 'bro!:chill: