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ArcticC7 05-02-2013 11:29 AM

Holy Crap There Is NO Rear Visibility At All In The Coupe
 
That rear camera was put there for a reason. Its like looking into a cave back there. :ack:

http://www.360revo.com/stingraymobile/

jimmyb 05-02-2013 11:40 AM

Another reason for you not to buy one. Or buy a convertible.


Jimmy

arcticblast 05-02-2013 11:41 AM

And they said it didn't hurt rearward visibility.
I couldn't look through the rear window without getting a feeling of tunnel vision.
Thank God for back-up cameras.

Big Dan 427 05-02-2013 11:45 AM

Check out the blond, visibility can't be that bad! LOL

Kappa 05-02-2013 11:47 AM

HOLY CRAP!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...cc6bo1_400.gif

An even better reason to stay in your C6.

Dominic Toretto 05-02-2013 11:48 AM

I'd get used to it. That interior looks like hot secks. Interesting though that you can't see the rear quarter glass.

-Alex

Glenmcp 05-02-2013 11:49 AM

Put one of those truck signs on your rear that says "if you cannot see my side mirror, I cannot see you".

BMadden 05-02-2013 11:51 AM

It should come standard with a Blind Spot Detection system.

Socko 05-02-2013 11:53 AM

Yeah that interior is awesome.

If you are always going faster than anyone around you, you don't need to concern yourself with what is behind you!! :P

Seriously though, I drive with my mirrors. All new cars rear visability sucks.

4GS7 05-02-2013 11:54 AM

http://www.icanhasinternets.com/wp-c...0/08/dwZ10.jpg

kliph 05-02-2013 11:56 AM

Big blind spot, on both sides. Will have to deal with it.:cheers:

Shurshot 05-02-2013 12:00 PM

You are just going to have to learn how to set your rearview mirrors correctly. For over 30 years I survived in a C-2 coupe with only one rearview mirror on the outside and never hit anybody.

Scissors 05-02-2013 12:00 PM

Adjust the side mirrors properly. Not pointing to the rear like 90% of drivers on the road do. :shrug:

BlueOx 05-02-2013 12:02 PM

Shocking! Who knew?!! :eek:

chaase 05-02-2013 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Big Dan 427 (Post 1583794803)
Check out the blond, visibility can't be that bad! LOL

:iagree:

It is better than my C5 vert with the top up. A back up camera will alleviate the problem nicely in the C7.

$$$frumnuttin' 05-02-2013 12:06 PM

You are going to love that backup camera if it's as good as the one on my SUV....it's all about what shows up on your display. Now if the OEMs would just let it be optionally active while driving forward, it would be even cooler. Best invention since the condom...:D

Paul Huizenga 05-02-2013 12:06 PM

The C7 Stingray will revolutionize the way Corvette owners back over their own kids and pets in the driveway :/

george vee 05-02-2013 12:08 PM

Maybe this C7 coupe hatch will be a one year design like the 63 split window coupe.

LOL

Sin City 05-02-2013 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583794662)
That rear camera was put there for a reason. Its like looking into a cave back there. :ack:

http://www.360revo.com/stingraymobile/

As usual, people jump to conclusions.

If you look carefully, you will see that the camera is in the center of the car, not where the driver's head is. The change in perspective will be much different from that angle and with your head farther back. The fish eye camera lens also distorting the image making the rear look very far back.

However, the rear 3/4 view will not be great.

CJJ 05-02-2013 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by Kappa (Post 1583794825)
HOLY CRAP!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...cc6bo1_400.gif

An even better reason to stay in your C6.

HAHAHAHA THAT WAS AWSOME! Love it. First time ive laughed all day.

Yup please stay in your C6. or at least go back to the C6 forum, you and the 10 other haters are getting old.

mmkay thanks!!! K bai!

CJJ 05-02-2013 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Huizenga (Post 1583795037)
The C7 Stingray will revolutionize the way Corvette owners back over their own kids and pets in the driveway :/

right.... i love thinking about backing over my kids and dogs. Whats wrong with you man?

$$$frumnuttin' 05-02-2013 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=Sin City;1583795070]As usual, people jump to conclusions.

If you look carefully, you will see that the camera is in the center of the car, not where the driver's head is. The change in perspective will be much different from that angle and with your head farther back. The fish eye camera lens also distorting the image making the rear look very far back.


It will beep as you approach an object...the beeps will get more rapid as you get closer to the object...a steady beep means you are within a foot or so....great feature---audible alert...done right.

jr3 05-02-2013 12:19 PM

Well, since i'll be in front of everyone it should not be a problem. :D

:steering:


jr3 05-02-2013 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by mike76060 (Post 1583795229)
That is false :D Since we are always in front of ppl, that would be a big problem :D!!!

Not if they cant catch us :D

4thC4at60 05-02-2013 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Scissors (Post 1583794971)
Adjust the side mirrors properly. Not pointing to the rear like 90% of drivers on the road do. :shrug:

:iagree:

Also, need to take into consideration that the 360-degree sweep was shot with an ultra-wide angle lens. The back is MUCH shorter in real perspective than it was in that sweep, which will eliminate the "tunnel" effect.

You'll have much more vision than it appears in that "still" video.

Besides, we've needed back up cameras in Vettes for years.

jr3 05-02-2013 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583794662)
That rear camera was put there for a reason. Its like looking into a cave back there. :ack:

http://www.360revo.com/stingraymobile/

Thats a good 360 deg. camera... I forgot about it since it was first posted earlier. Thanks 4 posting it.

jr3 05-02-2013 12:43 PM

The interior looks good... GM did a good job. Gotta give them credit.

The dash does look good with the carbon fiber. The console between the seats would look good also with carbon. Im sure the vendors will be offering it.

Aaron Keating 05-02-2013 12:43 PM

Well you're going to be much closer to the rear of the car (unless you are four feet tall maybe) than where that camera is. That makes a pretty big difference in rear visibility.

That being said, the blind spots along the B Pillar are going to take some getting used to. Since I have driven alot of gen 4 F cars, I can get used to and adapt to that though.

Mirror adjustments are going to be very important to the C7 though.

Daekwan06 05-02-2013 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by jimmyb (Post 1583794758)
Another reason for you not to buy one. Or buy a convertible.


Jimmy

Why is he still allowed to post in the C7 section. The mods have locked pretty much every single thread that he has started in the C7 section.

Yet he's still about to create more. And still continues to troll this section of CF.

Turbo6TA 05-02-2013 12:44 PM

Even with a wide-angle lens, not much to see out the back .. that's for sure


http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...RearWindow.jpg

VADanno 05-02-2013 12:48 PM

Until I sit in the car and look at traffic with the mirrors, I am withholding my judgement. Has anyone actually sat in the car and checked out the mirror coverage?

GOLD72 05-02-2013 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by kliph (Post 1583794931)
Big blind spot, on both sides. Will have to deal with it.:cheers:

:iagree: Not surprising with that layout.

Paulchristian 05-02-2013 12:52 PM

damn, it looks like a rear sunroof! :eek:

The quarter windows are useless. Not sure they should be called windows at all...they were just incorporated to hide the B pillar that is still there so that they could continue to offer a targa roof.

It is time for the corvette to loose the B pillar and targa. I predict you will see a completely new roof structure on the C8.

RC000E 05-02-2013 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583794662)
That rear camera was put there for a reason. Its like looking into a cave back there. :ack:

http://www.360revo.com/stingraymobile/

I think you've definitely proven your case...vettes just arent for you anymore. At least you liked the c6 era...just a shame you really don't support the brand. Maybe you would enjoy a new porsche instead?

michaelinmech 05-02-2013 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Daekwan06 (Post 1583795471)
Why is he still allowed to post in the C7 section. The mods have locked pretty much every single thread that he has started in the C7 section.

Yet he's still about to create more. And still continues to troll this section of CF.




Are you speaking of Torch2013c6 or jimmyb ????? :ack:

AORoads 05-02-2013 12:57 PM

do you sit in the middle, on the console lid? that's where the 360 is taken from. wait until you can sit in one to make a decision. or not.

Daekwan06 05-02-2013 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by michaelinmech (Post 1583795600)
Are you speaking of Torch2013c6 or jimmyb ????? :ack:

Torch2013 C6.

Here is a link showing all the threads he has started in the C7 section. The number of those that have been closed is ridiculous. Yet he is allowed to continue.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sear...rchid=35502352

Al77Vette 05-02-2013 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by 4thC4at60 (Post 1583795267)
:iagree:

Also, need to take into consideration that the 360-degree sweep was shot with an ultra-wide angle lens. The back is MUCH shorter in real perspective than it was in that sweep, which will eliminate the "tunnel" effect.

You'll have much more vision than it appears in that "still" video.

Besides, we've needed back up cameras in Vettes for years.

Sweep the to front; If that is the drivers angle, then I am going to hit a lot of things with the front of the car.:lol: The driver and passenger sitting angle make a world of difference.:thumbs:

C74u2nv 05-02-2013 01:05 PM

And on the 7th day, God said "let there be rear view mirrors". I am not worried.

Big Dan 427 05-02-2013 01:06 PM

This thread is the first I've seen regarding the rear view, IMO it is a good topic for discussion for everyone who buys a C7 is going to have the same view. Why turn it into another jab fest, if you don't want to engage the OP then don't. It's becoming quite obvious it isn't always the C7 detractors that rock the boat. If anything people should be thanking him for such an informative post. Now if someone says the view sucks they get labeled a "hater", when frankly it appears that the view will suck! Ridiculous...

Footman 05-02-2013 01:07 PM

You do realize that this is a 360 shot of the car with a distorted angle view.. it's not accurate of what you will see undistorted when you are sitting in the car.

NSC5 05-02-2013 01:10 PM

Holy Crap, another goofy thread :(

Anyone who knows anything about photography also knows how much a wide angle lens can distort perspective. Do you really think the blond behind the car could comfortably slide through the harness opening on either side of the seat top? The photo makes it look that way. Given this do you now also buy that this is truly what it looks like from the driver's perspective?

Wide angle lens are extremely useful but the perspective is anything but normal in a case like this where it is used to provide a very wide field of view with foreground objects so close to the lens.

I agree with the pillar blind spot issue and that is an annoyance in many cars. With my 2nd generation CTS it is noticeable when backing out of a parking space into a busy street since the butt of the car is entering the street while the side view is severely compromised by the pillar. To that extent I love the view from my 3/4 ton crew cab GMC but it doesn't handle the curves like the CTS.

And to the original poster, you might want to seek treatment for the severe case of cognitive dissonance you apparently are suffering after purchase :) The C6 is and always will be a great generation of the Corvette but time and technology march ever onward.

michaelinmech 05-02-2013 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Daekwan06 (Post 1583795647)
Torch2013 C6.

Here is a link showing all the threads he has started in the C7 section. The number of those that have been closed is ridiculous. Yet he is allowed to continue.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sear...rchid=35502352


I agree - he has been busy, busy, busy posting on the Forum - I have called attention to that directly to him. Though his volume sometimes gets me a bit, he is entitled. What I think is unacceptable, or at the least unattractive, is all his negativity on the C7 forum. Every little thing about the car is a worry, concern, wrong, etc. Apparently he loves to stir the pot - and we are too animated and sensitive to simply ignore his
controversial banter. :thumbs:

2K3Z06 05-02-2013 01:14 PM

Torch2013c6 is a jack ass.

He just bought an obsolete C6, now he's trying to make himself feel better.

You love your obsolete C6 so much, go post in the C6 section. The C7 is not the car for you.

You screwed yourself buying a new obsolete car................... just deal with it.

michaelinmech 05-02-2013 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by NSC5 (Post 1583795766)

And to the original poster, you might want to seek treatment for the severe case of cognitive dissonance you apparently are suffering after purchase :) The C6 is and always will be a great generation of the Corvette but time and technology march ever onward.


Damm - I wish I woulda said that . . . nicely played Sir :thumbs:

Big Dan 427 05-02-2013 01:19 PM

@ 2k3z06, you're the jack ass! You are criticizing everyone who owns a C6 when you make that statement! I guess everyone who buys a brand new C6 is getting screwed according to your logic, what a stupid philosophy.

michaelinmech 05-02-2013 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Big Dan 427 (Post 1583795848)
@ 2k3z06, you're the jack ass! You are criticizing everyone who owns a C6 when you make that statement! I guess everyone who buys a brand new C6 is getting screwed according to your logic, what a stupid philosophy.



Come on Big Dan 427 - chill. This thread is wacky both in that it is started by a C7 'adversary' and that the interior view shown is based on a 360 degree highly distorted camera view. It's not worth getting your jimmies rustled - there are bigger fish to fry :thumbs: :cool:

ArcticC7 05-02-2013 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by michaelinmech (Post 1583795909)
Come on Big Dan 427 - chill. This thread is wacky both in that it is started by a C7 'adversary' and that the interior view shown is based on a 360 degree highly distorted camera view. It's not worth getting your jimmies rustled - there are bigger fish to fry :thumbs: :cool:

Face it there is VERY LIMITED rearward visibility in the C7 Whats wrong with pointing this out? If you don't like seeing the truth then just don't read my threads.

Sin City 05-02-2013 01:30 PM

For the life of me I don't understand why C6 "lovers"/ C7 "haters" even post in this section.

Isn't there enough to talk about where with your brethren?

People here want to discuss their future purchase without being hassled.

Is that too much to ask?

ArcticC7 05-02-2013 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Sin City (Post 1583795960)
For the life of me I don't understand why C6 "lovers"/ C7 "haters" even post in this section.

Isn't there enough to talk about where with your brethren?

People here want to discuss their future purchase without being hassled.

Is that too much to ask?

This is a section to discuss the C7 not someone's future purchase. I could care less about who is buying or not. This is a section to discuss all aspects of the car good or bad as I see it.

Big Dan 427 05-02-2013 01:34 PM

Hey Mike, I hear you but in the same breath it does hold water. I personally haven't seen that point of view and found it interesting, the personal attacks did not need to be present. I have no idea who torch is, for that matter I have no idea who anyone on here is. Maybe he is an "adversary", maybe he is an idiot but the thread shows a good point, that's all I'm saying. Now I have to get back to my Tilapia!

michaelinmech 05-02-2013 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Big Dan 427 (Post 1583795991)
Hey Mike, I hear you but in the same breath it does hold water. I personally haven't seen that point of view and found it interesting, the personal attacks did not need to be present. I have no idea who torch is, for that matter I have no idea who anyone on here is. Maybe he is an "adversary", maybe he is an idiot but the thread shows a good point, that's all I'm saying. Now I have to get back to my Tilapia!


Now you're just being downright hateful :D:rofl::D:rofl::D

Big Dan 427 05-02-2013 01:38 PM

LOL Mike! Filters here so I have no way to thumbs up you, but thumbs up!!

Sin City 05-02-2013 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583795975)
This is a section to discuss the C7 not someone's future purchase. I could care less about who is buying or not. This is a section to discuss all aspects of the car good or bad as I see it.

Wow I'm sorry. I thought it was for some to disparage and humiliate others in one giant ego trip.

I thought it was a car forum. Turns out its a psyche experiment.

Hemi Dave 05-02-2013 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Footman (Post 1583795738)
You do realize that this is a 360 shot of the car with a distorted angle view.. it's not accurate of what you will see undistorted when you are sitting in the car.

This ^^^^^ .............

The OP is trying to find anything to crap on the C7......

The OP sounds desperate

The OP is still trying to justify his purchase........to himself :)

Try to enjoy your new C6 OP

......If you keep comparing it to the C7 you will keep falling into the DARKNESS

ArcticC7 05-02-2013 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Hemi Dave (Post 1583796071)
This ^^^^^ .............

The OP is trying to find anything to disparage the C7......

The OP sounds desperate :)

And You Own What Kind of Corvette? The desperate are the wannabe owners as I see it. I have owned 21 Corvettes in the past 25 years including the current 2013 model year. Again the one you drive is?

Hemi Dave 05-02-2013 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583796112)
And You Own What Kind of Corvette? The desperate are the wannabe be owners as I see it. I have owned 21 Corvettes in the past 25 years including the current 2013 model year. Again the one you drive is?

:D....My C7 has been ordered already....Do you want to know the options I picked and color????? :D

Big Dan 427 05-02-2013 01:52 PM

Hard to knock a guy who has been that loyal to a company, GM should give you a new one Torch!

Hemi Dave 05-02-2013 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583796112)
I have owned 21 Corvettes in the past 25 years including the current 2013 model year.

Sure you have...............

michaelinmech 05-02-2013 02:01 PM

In his own words - here on the Forum - to me, this appears for all intents and purposes to be a guy who should be living in the C6 Section and leaving the C7 Section to those who have positive interests in the car"

By Torch2013c6:

"Lets see if I buy. 2013 I save $20K in discounts over a C7. Im also able to buy a convertible and not have to wait another 11 months. my payment will be $300 less a month with the. C6 My 2013 will have 20hp less than the C7 (about as much as a lawn mower) The way I see it if you don't buy a C6 right now your not very smart.

Thats why I ran and bought my 13 Vert for 46K. In laughing all the way to the bank now.

Picked her up last week in Ohio. $46K out the door! Now is the time to buy folks!

Keep it and thank the Lord I got a fantastic deal on my 2013 convertible that has a rear end treatment that looks like a Corvette and is totally proven. Then I will also not look like a fool who purchased a first generation model year Corvette who over paid for a car that will have quality issues no matter how many times the car is laid up at the dealer for recalls and adjustments. In 2016 once the car has been proven and the bugs worked out I will purchase a C7 convertible and trade the 2013 in for it.

Left over? If its a 2013 its not a left over.

I just tried buying a GS vert from them and I could never get them to respond or send me a buyers order. Here I am with 55K in hand and they are ignoring me. I went elsewhere.

I only buy base Corvettes lets see I think its 21 of them to be exact. Its a sports car not a Cadillac.

Well you might have hit on something here. Brain washing is exactly what Tadge is trying to do by saying C7 makes C6 obsolete. Its like a bunch of Lemmings...well you know how the story goes. I don't need to be part of the "in crowd" all I need to be is smart with my money when it comes to my Corvette purchases.

Just so you know, buying a first year Corvette and paying full list for it is about the dumbest thing anyone can do. I did it once and learned my lesson well. My C7 will be a 2016 model nice and refined with a discount for less money than most paid for a 2014. In the mean time I will drive and enjoy my brand new 2013 until then.

When you actually own a C7 then come and impress us "with all its technology" Keep in mind Mr. Goodwrench will be ready to take apart for the first time and experiment on your new C7 if "all the technology" starts acting wonky.

We don't even know that the C7 even works well so how can you say its dramatically improved? You know something I don't or have you been listening to GM rhetoric/propaganda again?

GM is great for making promises but IMO never really delivers what they set out to achieve. Take the SSr and the XLR for example."

Sin City 05-02-2013 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583796112)
And You Own What Kind of Corvette? The desperate are the wannabe owners as I see it. I have owned 21 Corvettes in the past 25 years including the current 2013 model year. Again the one you drive is?


Now we understand. You're losing your king status to a new stud in the stable. It is an ego trip.

Well, I hate to tell it to you but the C7 and a new generation of Corvette fans think all this negative talk sounds like sour grapes.

Disagreement is fine and intelligent discussions interesting. Badgering is just lame and small.

You choose.

ArcticC7 05-02-2013 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by michaelinmech (Post 1583796306)
In his own words - here on the Forum - to me, this appears for all intents and purposes to be a guy who should be living in the C6 Section and leaving the C7 Section to those who have positive interests in the car"

By Torch2013c6:

"Lets see if I buy. 2013 I save $20K in discounts over a C7. Im also able to buy a convertible and not have to wait another 11 months. my payment will be $300 less a month with the. C6 My 2013 will have 20hp less than the C7 (about as much as a lawn mower) The way I see it if you don't buy a C6 right now your not very smart.

Thats why I ran and bought my 13 Vert for 46K. In laughing all the way to the bank now.

Picked her up last week in Ohio. $46K out the door! Now is the time to buy folks!

Keep it and thank the Lord I got a fantastic deal on my 2013 convertible that has a rear end treatment that looks like a Corvette and is totally proven. Then I will also not look like a fool who purchased a first generation model year Corvette who over paid for a car that will have quality issues no matter how many times the car is laid up at the dealer for recalls and adjustments. In 2016 once the car has been proven and the bugs worked out I will purchase a C7 convertible and trade the 2013 in for it.

Left over? If its a 2013 its not a left over.

I just tried buying a GS vert from them and I could never get them to respond or send me a buyers order. Here I am with 55K in hand and they are ignoring me. I went elsewhere.

I only buy base Corvettes lets see I think its 21 of them to be exact. Its a sports car not a Cadillac.

Well you might have hit on something here. Brain washing is exactly what Tadge is trying to do by saying C7 makes C6 obsolete. Its like a bunch of Lemmings...well you know how the story goes. I don't need to be part of the "in crowd" all I need to be is smart with my money when it comes to my Corvette purchases.

Just so you know, buying a first year Corvette and paying full list for it is about the dumbest thing anyone can do. I did it once and learned my lesson well. My C7 will be a 2016 model nice and refined with a discount for less money than most paid for a 2014. In the mean time I will drive and enjoy my brand new 2013 until then.

When you actually own a C7 then come and impress us "with all its technology" Keep in mind Mr. Goodwrench will be ready to take apart for the first time and experiment on your new C7 if "all the technology" starts acting wonky.

We don't even know that the C7 even works well so how can you say its dramatically improved? You know something I don't or have you been listening to GM rhetoric/propaganda again?

GM is great for making promises but IMO never really delivers what they set out to achieve. Take the SSr and the XLR for example."

Lets also add I would NEVER be foolish enough to buy a first year of a new generation Corvette this is why I purchased the 2013.

Medic Man 05-02-2013 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Sin City (Post 1583795070)
As usual, people jump to conclusions.

If you look carefully, you will see that the camera is in the center of the car, not where the driver's head is. The change in perspective will be much different from that angle and with your head farther back. The fish eye camera lens also distorting the image making the rear look very far back.

However, the rear 3/4 view will not be great.


:iagree:

-CM- 05-02-2013 02:13 PM

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...RearWindow.jpg

Just think of how many pies are going to fit back there.

trivette 05-02-2013 02:14 PM

The potential rear visibility issues from the cockpit of the C7 has been something I noticed early on and had some concerns. Three weeks ago I replaced my '10 CTS sedan with a '13 CTS coupe. That has a roofline/rear window similar to the C7. When sitting in a CTS on the showfloor I thought there might be some issues, but once I took delivery and got everything adjusted it has been a non-factor. Between the side mirrors, rear camera, and blind spot detection on the mirrors I am more comfortable with my coupe than with the previous sedans I've owned. Based on that, I'm looking to have similar results for my C7. Until any of us have really sat in/driven one we can't say for sure, but I'm hopeful.

BAblackvette 05-02-2013 02:22 PM

Holy sh!t! Get a hold of yourself men!

Daekwan06 05-02-2013 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by trivette (Post 1583796473)
Until any of us have really sat in/driven one we can't say for sure, but I'm hopeful.

And thats really the point.

This thread is worthless, because not a single a person commenting in this thread has even sat in the car and attempted to adjust the mirrors. The OP is trying to make a big deal out of something has zero first hand experience with.

michaelinmech 05-02-2013 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by BAblackvette (Post 1583796552)
Holy sh!t! Get a hold of yourself men!


Wait . . who is that speaking . . . I can't see you out the rear window of my C7 :yesnod::lol::willy::rofl::thumbs:

michaelinmech 05-02-2013 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Daekwan06 (Post 1583796576)
And thats really the point.

This thread is worthless, because not a single a person commenting in this thread has even sat in the car and attempted to adjust the mirrors. The OP is trying to make a big deal out of something has zero first hand experience with.


A. You are absolutely correct - amen and alleluia :thumbs:

B. And he does it over, and over, and over again :eek:

slief 05-02-2013 03:43 PM

That image makes use of a wide angle camera. As such, you don't get a good idea of what the rear visibility is as the camera itself makes it seem much worse than it actually is.

bmacZO6 05-02-2013 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by -CM- (Post 1583796446)
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...RearWindow.jpg

Just think of how many pies are going to fit back there.

It looks like there is room for several sheets of plywood.

ArcticC7 05-02-2013 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by bmacZO6 (Post 1583797322)
It looks like there is room for several sheets of plywood.

Shhhh! Thats the version with the pop up back seat!

indyjack18 05-02-2013 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1583795474)
Even with a wide-angle lens, not much to see out the back .. that's for sure


http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...RearWindow.jpg

:rock:looks like a skylight!

ed1 05-02-2013 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583794662)
That rear camera was put there for a reason. Its like looking into a cave back there. :ack:

http://www.360revo.com/stingraymobile/

Nice, take a link from a positive thread and turn it into a negative one. Good job! :thumbs:

For anyone who cares here is original thread with both links to the interior and exterior view.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...7-to-date.html

O and who cares about the back window.
a)when driving you can still see whats behind
b)when backing up you have camera (better than any rearview mirror and safer)
c)you still have your side mirrors

This thread is pointless!! You could have at least used both links! :toetap:

jb_va2001 05-02-2013 04:50 PM

I like the rear view camera in the C6.R...




And this is a sweet run around VIR. :cool:

speedlink 05-02-2013 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Footman (Post 1583795738)
You do realize that this is a 360 shot of the car with a distorted angle view.. it's not accurate of what you will see undistorted when you are sitting in the car.

Beat me to it. I agree. Also, other era's have had the same problems.

speedlink 05-02-2013 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Sin City (Post 1583796315)
Now we understand. You're losing your king status to a new stud in the stable. It is an ego trip.

Well, I hate to tell it to you but the C7 and a new generation of Corvette fans think all this negative talk sounds like sour grapes.

Disagreement is fine and intelligent discussions interesting. Badgering is just lame and small.

You choose.

:iagree:

JustinStrife 05-02-2013 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Sin City (Post 1583796315)
Now we understand. You're losing your king status to a new stud in the stable. It is an ego trip.

Well, I hate to tell it to you but the C7 and a new generation of Corvette fans think all this negative talk sounds like sour grapes.

Disagreement is fine and intelligent discussions interesting. Badgering is just lame and small.

You choose.

Bingo. Why else would he stay in this subsection when he has a 2013 c6? He isn't interested in the c7 as it is currently, so he is trying to crap over the new generation when the car isnt even for sale yet.

WantaC7 05-02-2013 05:55 PM

I love how the visor ( like all cars ) says "The back seat is the safest place for children" even in a two seater sports car.

Snorman 05-02-2013 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583796334)
Lets also add I would NEVER be foolish enough to buy a first year of a new generation Corvette this is why I purchased the 2013.

Good for you, pat yourself on the back.
That doesn't right or wrong or smarter than anybody else, despite what you may think.
S.

b4i4getit 05-02-2013 06:17 PM

A lot of you guys should lighten up. It seems more and more that anytime anybody says anything the least bit negative about the C7 and some of you go nuts. Can't people ask questions and have opinions in this forum ? Do you really think GM made the perfect car ? Get real. I have news for you. This car had definite engineering and price points in mind and there were sacrifices made that we don't know about yet. It happens in every vehicle. In a few months time those of you defending the C7 at every turn will most likely be the same ones complaining about some aspect of the car. I can hardly wait. :D

ed1 05-02-2013 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by b4i4getit (Post 1583798732)
In a few months time those of you defending the C7 at every turn will most likely be the same ones complaining about some aspect of the car. I can hardly wait. :D

I two can't wait because once we have this car in our driveway useless treads like this will be shutdown by post #2.

I don't think the C7 is perfect but until we have our hands on it I am not sure how people can come up with some any negative threads.

Here is my opinion, the C6 is a great car and GM learned from that car and built the C7. So until I am PROVED otherwise I believe the C7 is a great car, better the C6 and will the best performing base corvette yet.

Like I said this is just my opinion any conclusion other than what GM has stated is just that an opinion. I know, I know only time will tell if the C7 is as great or as bad as people think it is.

BlueOx 05-02-2013 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by b4i4getit (Post 1583798732)
In a few months time those of you defending the C7 at every turn will most likely be the same ones complaining about some aspect of the car. I can hardly wait. :D

So you just thought you'd get a head start and be a bitch ahead of time, right? :rofl:
Bitch now, before you know what you're bitching about!!

Frankie2blue 05-02-2013 07:14 PM

Well it will be good when this car hits the streets and you start seeing them everywhere. Then this horrid bickering can come to an end and we can actually start discussing the car for what it is. A few people are so adamant about bashing the car that darn near every thread is ruined. It's almost like they think that GM will change the car in the next few weeks to please them. Whatever. The car is what it is and will date previous generations just as every generation has done before. Why is that so hard for some to see?

ed1 05-02-2013 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by BlueOx (Post 1583799149)
Bitch now, before you know what you're bitching about!!

Exactly!!!:crazy2::yesnod::crazy2:

BuckyThreadkiller 05-02-2013 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583796334)
Lets also add I would NEVER be foolish enough to buy a first year of a new generation Corvette this is why I purchased the 2013.

Nope, you're the guy taking it in the shorts on resale because he bought the last model year of the generation.

Hemi Dave 05-02-2013 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by michaelinmech (Post 1583796306)
In his own words - here on the Forum - to me, this appears for all intents and purposes to be a guy who should be living in the C6 Section and leaving the C7 Section to those who have positive interests in the car"

By Torch2013c6:

"Lets see if I buy. 2013 I save $20K in discounts over a C7. Im also able to buy a convertible and not have to wait another 11 months. my payment will be $300 less a month with the. C6 My 2013 will have 20hp less than the C7 (about as much as a lawn mower) The way I see it if you don't buy a C6 right now your not very smart.

Thats why I ran and bought my 13 Vert for 46K. In laughing all the way to the bank now.

Picked her up last week in Ohio. $46K out the door! Now is the time to buy folks!

Keep it and thank the Lord I got a fantastic deal on my 2013 convertible that has a rear end treatment that looks like a Corvette and is totally proven. Then I will also not look like a fool who purchased a first generation model year Corvette who over paid for a car that will have quality issues no matter how many times the car is laid up at the dealer for recalls and adjustments. In 2016 once the car has been proven and the bugs worked out I will purchase a C7 convertible and trade the 2013 in for it.

Left over? If its a 2013 its not a left over.

I just tried buying a GS vert from them and I could never get them to respond or send me a buyers order. Here I am with 55K in hand and they are ignoring me. I went elsewhere.

I only buy base Corvettes lets see I think its 21 of them to be exact. Its a sports car not a Cadillac.

Well you might have hit on something here. Brain washing is exactly what Tadge is trying to do by saying C7 makes C6 obsolete. Its like a bunch of Lemmings...well you know how the story goes. I don't need to be part of the "in crowd" all I need to be is smart with my money when it comes to my Corvette purchases.

Just so you know, buying a first year Corvette and paying full list for it is about the dumbest thing anyone can do. I did it once and learned my lesson well. My C7 will be a 2016 model nice and refined with a discount for less money than most paid for a 2014. In the mean time I will drive and enjoy my brand new 2013 until then.

When you actually own a C7 then come and impress us "with all its technology" Keep in mind Mr. Goodwrench will be ready to take apart for the first time and experiment on your new C7 if "all the technology" starts acting wonky.

We don't even know that the C7 even works well so how can you say its dramatically improved? You know something I don't or have you been listening to GM rhetoric/propaganda again?

GM is great for making promises but IMO never really delivers what they set out to achieve. Take the SSr and the XLR for example."

Yep.......this sums it up pretty good......:rofl: :ack:

CJJ 05-02-2013 07:58 PM

I just dont understand..... WHY do the haters have to start threads about BS and then 15 posts later tell us how "They would never buy a first year corvette", at this point you are all sounding like little whiney girly man. LET IT BE>< We dont #$%#$% care if you dont want to buy one, when you most likely do and are mad u just got a 2013 for a steal. I know myself I would be devestated if I just bought a 2013 and 6 months later this is coming out. If you werent so interested in the C7 - YOU WOULDNT BE ALL OVER THESE FORUMS !!!! GIRLY MEN whining.... ewww.

These forums are soo full of trolls and fighting, its hard to even find a conversation with people that like the car without someone starting trouble. I thought most men on a car forum would have mutual interests and have a good time. This is insane.

sam90lx 05-02-2013 08:04 PM

We need Stripper pics and Hot Wives and Hot Mom pics!!!!

OBSSSD 05-02-2013 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by 2K3Z06 (Post 1583795799)
Torch2013c6 is a jack ass.

He just bought an obsolete C6, now he's trying to make himself feel better.

You love your obsolete C6 so much, go post in the C6 section. The C7 is not the car for you.

You screwed yourself buying a new obsolete car................... just deal with it.

In this case it looks like it takes one to know one :yesnod:

speedlink 05-02-2013 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by BlueOx (Post 1583799149)
So you just thought you'd get a head start and be a bitch ahead of time, right? :rofl:
Bitch now, before you know what you're bitching about!!

:rofl::rofl:

michaelinmech 05-02-2013 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by b4i4getit (Post 1583798732)
A lot of you guys should lighten up. It seems more and more that anytime anybody says anything the least bit negative about the C7 and some of you go nuts. Can't people ask questions and have opinions in this forum ? Do you really think GM made the perfect car ? Get real. I have news for you. This car had definite engineering and price points in mind and there were sacrifices made that we don't know about yet. It happens in every vehicle. In a few months time those of you defending the C7 at every turn will most likely be the same ones complaining about some aspect of the car. I can hardly wait. :D

Yes, but the production units that turn up with definite engineering deficiencies and sacrifices, well, those are the units we export to Canada !! :thumbs::D:thumbs:

lt4obsesses 05-02-2013 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Sin City (Post 1583795070)
As usual, people jump to conclusions.

If you look carefully, you will see that the camera is in the center of the car, not where the driver's head is. The change in perspective will be much different from that angle and with your head farther back. The fish eye camera lens also distorting the image making the rear look very far back.

However, the rear 3/4 view will not be great.

19 posts before somebody realized this one little detail. From the drivers seat I would think you would have enough view of the right rear, through the rear view mirror. Then it is a matter of properly adjusting the side mirrors. it's fine.

Telepierre 05-02-2013 08:55 PM

All I see in the 360 is the rear glass port to view the mid engine double SCs for the C7Z.

What is the big deal!? :hide:

JustinStrife 05-02-2013 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by sam90lx (Post 1583799647)
We need Stripper pics and Hot Wives and Hot Mom pics!!!!

Something we can both agree on. :yesnod:

jr3 05-02-2013 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by 2K3Z06 (Post 1583795799)
Torch2013c6 is a jack ass.

He just bought an obsolete C6, now he's trying to make himself feel better.

You love your obsolete C6 so much, go post in the C6 section. The C7 is not the car for you.

You screwed yourself buying a new obsolete car................... just deal with it.

:rofl:

Hemi Dave 05-02-2013 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by 2K3Z06 (Post 1583795799)
Torch2013c6 is a jack ass.

He just bought an obsolete C6, now he's trying to make himself feel better.

You love your obsolete C6 so much, go post in the C6 section. The C7 is not the car for you.

You screwed yourself buying a new obsolete car................... just deal with it.

:thumbs: :D:D:D :hide:

PLRX 05-02-2013 09:06 PM

You are going to need a ground guide

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...9d833f69b9.jpg

jdmvette 05-02-2013 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by indyjack18 (Post 1583797671)
:rock:looks like a skylight!

wish my skylights had hot blondes hovering just outside of them.

jr3 05-02-2013 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Big Dan 427 (Post 1583795991)
Hey Mike, I hear you but in the same breath it does hold water. I personally haven't seen that point of view and found it interesting, the personal attacks did not need to be present. I have no idea who torch is, for that matter I have no idea who anyone on here is. Maybe he is an "adversary", maybe he is an idiot but the thread shows a good point, that's all I'm saying. Now I have to get back to my Tilapia!

:lol:

http://www.meattruck.com/wp-content/...WIp1qzo4tr.jpg


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