Standard vs Z51 wheels, breaks, just in case you didnt know
Just in case you didn't know the differences between standard and Z51.
Standard: 18" Front 19" Rear Fitted with road tires Cast Aluminum 35mm shocks Z51: 19" Front 20" Rear Fitted with track tires Slotted Rotors, bigger front brakes Forged Aluminum, strong and lighter wheels 45mm shocks The forged aluminum wheels and bigger slotted rotors alone would make the Z51 package a good deal. Not to mention other goodies. HOwever, it does add some weight. |
What do you mean "track tires?" Aren't Pilot Super Sports used for both?
|
Originally Posted by -CM-
(Post 1583798369)
What do you mean "track tires?" Aren't Pilot Super Sports used for both?
Reading the slides from the Bash it's easy to see why the OP refers to the "road" tire and the "track" tire The 18"/19" Pilot Super Sport ZP: - 1G cornering capability - Lower energy consumption (unique low RR compounds) - Wear life: UTQG wear rating of 300 - Improve comfort / ride / noise - Enhanced wet performance - Optimum Dry/Wet stopping distance - Pilot Super Sport ZP provides exceptional grip and handling, cornering ability and progressivity of drive: Total Performance Corvette Stingray with Z51 Package: - Tire structure / contact patches optimized for track- critical performance - Dual-tread compound and pattern for near-racing-slick grip and handling - Blend of PSS and PSC along with more race technology transfer for serious track performance How can both be called Pilot Super Sport ZP? . |
Anyone know the wear rating on the Z-51 tire?
|
Originally Posted by vankenn
(Post 1583798187)
Just in case you didn't know the differences between standard and Z51.
Standard: 18" Front 19" Rear Fitted with road tires Cast Aluminum 35mm shocks Z51: 19" Front 20" Rear Fitted with track tires Slotted Rotors, bigger front brakes Forged Aluminum, strong and lighter wheels Being forged alone doesn't always mean lighter, although the style/shape (hollow or solid etc.) of the spokes themselves can make the difference of course. Back in the C5 Z06 era, the cast 2002-2004 rims were actually slightly lighter than the forged 2001 versions (same sizes of course). |
According to the video with Jim Mero and the Chassis Engineer (forget his name), the Forged wheels are indeed heavier than the cast wheels due to the size difference. However, the forged wheels are lighter than they would have been if they had been cast. The engineer was saying they went forged in order to save weight and in order to give added space for the brake calipers. They had some cross-section views of the wheels in the presentation and the walls sure looked pretty thin. They also had a cool video of how the wheels are formed.
-T |
Forged wheels are lighter in certain aplications due to the fact that forging the metal makes it stronger, hence less materal is needed for desired strength characteristics.
|
I do not want my Z51 wheel to break... Is this a problem? Is it because they are forged?
|
Originally Posted by Bill17601
(Post 1583802806)
I do not want my Z51 wheel to break... Is this a problem? Is it because they are forged?
Forging provides the needed strength at less weight than the casting process but there is no free lunch thus the higher cost of the forging process. |
Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks :) |
Originally Posted by vankenn
(Post 1583798187)
Just in case you didn't know the differences between standard and Z51.
Standard: 18" Front 19" Rear Fitted with road tires Cast Aluminum 35mm shocks Z51: 19" Front 20" Rear Fitted with track tires Slotted Rotors, bigger front brakes Forged Aluminum, strong and lighter wheels 45mm shocks The forged aluminum wheels and bigger slotted rotors alone would make the Z51 package a good deal. Not to mention other goodies. HOwever, it does add some weight. |
Originally Posted by Silver05GTO
(Post 1583802995)
Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks :) |
Originally Posted by Silver05GTO
(Post 1583802995)
Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks :)
Originally Posted by Never-Enough
(Post 1583802998)
Can you get the Z51 with street tires? Tires aren't cheap & I doubt people want to buy new tires for a new car.
|
Originally Posted by Silver05GTO
(Post 1583802995)
Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks :) 2LT Trim Level (for the HUD) Z51 Performance Package Magnetic Selective Ride Control (including Performance Traction Management) Variable Tuned Performance Exhaust All I would add to that would be the Sat Nav, the black Z51 wheels & (most likely) the Carbon Flash painted side mirrors & spoiler (a 'Z51-required' option)… |
Originally Posted by Silver05GTO
(Post 1583802995)
Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks :) but the Z51 is a great $$ deal for those who choose it ..just my 2 cents .. The Dog ( old dog ) woof................. |
I agree with the statement that MOST people do not need the Z-51 Performance Package, and I am one of them. My track days (and I had a few) are long gone, and I want the car to cruise, and enjoy during my retirement years. So I think I will forgo the Z-51 option and just enjoy the cruising and driving option at a substantial savings...:rock:
|
Originally Posted by Silver05GTO
(Post 1583802995)
Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks :) I'm opting out of the Z51 as well, and the biggest reason is weight as some articals on the internet have stated the Z51 package will weigh anywhere from 150-200lbs more :eek: One thing you stated, which surprised me, is that the base Stingray is capable to pull 1G in corners??? can anyone confirm this is true? If so, that's fantastic for a car that doesn't have a rear sway bar |
Well, the I definitely don't need the Z51 package. Except... I WILL have the MSRC (love it in my ZL1), and I need Z51 for that.
|
Originally Posted by LS3_E85_Corvette
(Post 1583803439)
I'm opting out of the Z51 as well, and the biggest reason is weight as some articals on the internet have stated the Z51 package will weigh anywhere from 150-200lbs more :eek:
see post #4 |
I dont need the Z51 package either.
But Im getting it! :rock: |
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:38 AM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands