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c5vette73 05-10-2013 07:57 PM

Is it me or are base wheels better looking that Z51 wheels?
 
I've seen some pictures and the base wheels are growing on me.

What do you think?

sam90lx 05-10-2013 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by c5vette73 (Post 1583868236)
I've seen some pictures and the base wheels are growing on me.

What do you think?

:ack:

Bill17601 05-10-2013 07:58 PM

It is you! But personal taste is just that..

gthal 05-10-2013 08:02 PM

It's just you :D

I find the base wheels hideous and make the car look bad.

Sin City 05-10-2013 08:51 PM

I love the 51 wheels.

c5vette73 05-10-2013 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by gthal (Post 1583868273)
It's just you :D

I find the base wheels hideous and make the car look bad.

This pic of TR w/ base wheels look good.

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2013/...y-advertising/

gthal 05-10-2013 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by c5vette73 (Post 1583868742)
This pic of TR w/ base wheels look good.

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2013/...y-advertising/

It's subjective... I really don't like the base wheels but that doesn't mean many others wouldn't find them beautiful. I find the design is too plain and, in turn, makes the car look less sporty.

c5vette73 05-10-2013 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by gthal (Post 1583868792)
It's subjective... I really don't like the base wheels but that doesn't mean many others wouldn't find them beautiful. I find the design is too plain and, in turn, makes the car look less sporty.

Wonder why they don't give those who don't want Z51 option the ability to choose Z51 wheels.

Turbo6TA 05-10-2013 09:20 PM

Anyone good at photochopping ... How about a set of C6 / Z06 Comp Grey "Spider" wheels on the C7?

Zymurgy 05-10-2013 10:01 PM

It's just you. The Z51 wheels are MUCH better looking. It's almost worth the $2800 for the Z51 just to get the Z51 wheels - everything else is like a bonus! :D

Zymurgy 05-10-2013 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by c5vette73 (Post 1583868831)
Wonder why they don't give those who don't want Z51 option the ability to choose Z51 wheels.

Probably because GM thinks the Z51 wheels look better and that is part of their strategy to get people to opt for the Z51. Not to mention the Z51 is a bargain.

The Z51 wheels are different sizes that the base wheels.

Give the aftermarket a little while and there will be reproduction Z51 look-alike wheels in base sizes.

Sin City 05-10-2013 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Zymurgy (Post 1583869361)
Probably because GM thinks the Z51 wheels look better and that is part of their strategy to get people to opt for the Z51. Not to mention the Z51 is a bargain.
.

If you ever saw the Ferrari F430 standard seats, you would say they were ugly as hell. Many think it was done intentionally so that people would opt for the Daytona style at about $3600 more.

If that was the strategy -- it worked. About 98% came with Daytona seats. :)

RapidC84B 05-10-2013 10:42 PM

I agree with the OP. The base wheels are cleaner and fit with the design better. The "tuning fork" Z-51 wheels aren't bad, but they're pretty flat and look similar to a lot of other wheels out there.

jr3 05-11-2013 12:30 AM

Nope,.. Its just you...

The base wheels look crappy. Way to plain looking.

JustinStrife 05-11-2013 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by jr3 (Post 1583870399)
Nope,.. Its just you...

The base wheels look crappy. Way to plain looking.

:iagree::iagree:

ZL-1 05-11-2013 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder (Post 1583869705)
I agree with the OP. The base wheels are cleaner and fit with the design better. The "tuning fork" Z-51 wheels aren't bad, but they're pretty flat and look similar to a lot of other wheels out there.

:iagree:
So that makes three of us :lol:
I really like the clean simple look. Real easy to clean for a daily driver too. But the majority of corvette guys seem to like more interesting and complex wheels (like the ZR1 style) which admittedly give the car more pizzaz. To me the perfect wheel would be the base wheel in the bigger size.

You're right about fitting the design better. This clean wheel design was used in most of the early C7 renderings we saw at the Bash. Also on the Stingray Concept from 2009.

And you're right, many ordinary sedans are running around on wheels that look much like the Z51's.

usroute66 MKW 05-11-2013 01:15 AM


Originally Posted by Sin City (Post 1583869402)
If you ever saw the Ferrari F430 standard seats, you would say they were ugly as hell. Many think it was done intentionally so that people would opt for the Daytona style at about $3600 more.

If that was the strategy -- it worked. About 98% came with Daytona seats. :)

Pretty much every sports car from every make comes with skanky base wheels and you have to spend $$$ to get the nicer wheel....it's marketing 101

LS1LT1 05-11-2013 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by c5vette73 (Post 1583868236)
I've seen some pictures and the base wheels are growing on me.

What do you think?

I like them too, I'd like them even more in dark grey or black though.

rcallen484 05-11-2013 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by usroute66 MKW (Post 1583870544)
Pretty much every sports car from every make comes with skanky base wheels and you have to spend $$$ to get the nicer wheel....it's marketing 101

In general, yes, but.....

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KgkaECcED_...r-orange+1.jpg

Sin City 05-11-2013 01:37 AM

2 Attachment(s)
First pic: rather ugly standard cast aluminum wheels.

$8000 later: Voila'! Optional machine faced forged light weight aluminum 20's.

Increased profit: extreme! :)

JudgeNjury 05-11-2013 04:54 AM

I prefer the z51 wheels as they better suit the techno edge look of the new c7.

Just an opinion.

Jack Be Quick Racing 05-11-2013 06:50 AM

I ve been trying to sell myself on the base wheels for over a week now in an attempt to avoid the Z51 package and magna-ride upgrades....it's just not working.

CJJ 05-11-2013 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by jr3 (Post 1583870399)
nope,.. Its just you...

The base wheels look crappy. Way to plain looking.

+1.

Mechanic 05-11-2013 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by JudgeNjury (Post 1583870861)
I prefer the z51 wheels as they better suit the techno edge look of the new c7.

You're right. And then there's the fact that the Z51 package is such a relative bargain for what you get it would be hard to pass it up. That said, it's not hard to imagine you could actually buy a new C7 for $50k, and it would still be a lot of automobile for the money.

Big Dan 427 05-11-2013 09:09 AM

Ginger or Maryann? It's what you like OP is all that matters!

Gmumd48 05-11-2013 09:51 AM

Its you
 

Originally Posted by c5vette73 (Post 1583868236)
I've seen some pictures and the base wheels are growing on me.

What do you think?

:willy:

MikeyTX 05-11-2013 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by c5vette73 (Post 1583868236)
I've seen some pictures and the base wheels are growing on me.

Have you sought medical help ? I would imagine walking would become rather awkward if the wheels grow too big .................. :willy::leaving::hide:

MikeyTX 05-11-2013 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Zymurgy (Post 1583869330)
It's just you. The Z51 wheels are MUCH better looking. It's almost worth the $2800 for the Z51 just to get the Z51 wheels - everything else is like a bonus! :D

THIS ! Can't wait for the vert to be released. White/red, Z51 ............. :woohoo:

-CM- 05-11-2013 11:02 AM

I like the Z51 wheels, but the non-Z51 looks OK in this picture. I ordered the Z51 option largely because of the wheels.

I really wish there was a machine-faced Z51 option.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...elin-tires.jpg

torquetube 05-11-2013 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by -CM- (Post 1583872284)
I like the Z51 wheels, but the non-Z51 looks OK in this picture. I ordered the Z51 option largely because of the wheels.

I really wish there was a machine-faced Z51 option.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...elin-tires.jpg

They're both fine. Not everything has to be so contentious.

I prefer the non-Z51s a little because they appear more simple and functional, and less overtly styled.

AORoads 05-11-2013 01:18 PM

my first glance at both wheels, I thought of them as the "five-spoke" and "10-spoke" or "split-spoke" models. and yes, I like the five-spoke quite a bit. not so much the 10-spoke, but it's not ugly or bad looking.:cheers:

c5vette73 05-11-2013 01:31 PM

Don't forget that the Z51 tires will wear rather quickly compared to the base tires.

jimmyb 05-11-2013 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by -CM- (Post 1583872284)
I like the Z51 wheels, but the non-Z51 looks OK in this picture. I ordered the Z51 option largely because of the wheels.

I really wish there was a machine-faced Z51 option.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...elin-tires.jpg

Do you happen to have a photo (as good as the one you posted!!) of the machine finished base wheel?

Also, I like the base wheel better.

Jimmy

jimmyb 05-11-2013 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Premmer (Post 1583873280)
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/memb...ced-142502.jpg
Can anyone confirm this photo is of machine-finished base wheel?

I don't think it is, looks like the standard sterling silver painted wheel.

Jimmy

Premmer 05-11-2013 02:24 PM

I don't think it is, looks like the standard sterling silver painted wheel.

Jimmy[/QUOTE]


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/memb...ted-142501.jpg[
Then what wheel is this?

jimmyb 05-11-2013 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Premmer (Post 1583873624)
I don't think it is, looks like the standard sterling silver painted wheel.

Jimmy


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/memb...ted-142501.jpg[
Then what wheel is this?[/QUOTE]

Same wheel, same finish. The wheel sitting on the chair looks like it was shot with an iPhone or something like that (not great quality), the other photo is professionally shot.

You can tell the wheel on the chair is not machine finished because the barrel of the wheel is the same as the face, if it was the machine finished wheel, the face would look VERY different from the barrel.

Jimmy

Premmer 05-11-2013 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by jimmyb (Post 1583873735)

Same wheel, same finish. The wheel sitting on the chair looks like it was shot with an iPhone or something like that (not great quality), the other photo is professionally shot.

You can tell the wheel on the chair is not machine finished because the barrel of the wheel is the same as the face, if it was the machine finished wheel, the face would look VERY different from the barrel.

Jimmy[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your replies. Can you point me to a photo of the standard machine-faced wheel?

jimmyb 05-11-2013 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Premmer (Post 1583873846)
Same wheel, same finish. The wheel sitting on the chair looks like it was shot with an iPhone or something like that (not great quality), the other photo is professionally shot.

You can tell the wheel on the chair is not machine finished because the barrel of the wheel is the same as the face, if it was the machine finished wheel, the face would look VERY different from the barrel.

Jimmy

Thanks for your replies. Can you point me to a photo of the standard machine-faced wheel?[/QUOTE]

I wish I had a photo of the machine finished wheel, hopefully someone has one and will post it.

Jimmy

c54u 05-11-2013 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by c5vette73 (Post 1583873232)
Don't forget that the Z51 tires will wear rather quickly compared to the base tires.

Huh??? They are both the same tire on the z51 package and base. They are just different sizes.

c5vette73 05-11-2013 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by c54u (Post 1583875089)
Huh??? They are both the same tire on the z51 package and base. They are just different sizes.

I don't believe they are.

Can someone confirm?

sam90lx 05-11-2013 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by c54u (Post 1583875089)
Huh??? They are both the same tire on the z51 package and base. They are just different sizes.

Different compounds I think.

gthal 05-11-2013 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by sam90lx (Post 1583875228)
Different compounds I think.

Agreed... GM said the Z51 PSS have more of a racing compound vs. standard PSS tires. Why they are both branded PSS is beyond my logic... talk about confusion when trying to replace them!!

c54u 05-11-2013 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by c5vette73 (Post 1583875099)
I don't believe they are.

Can someone confirm?

Sure.

Scroll down to wheels and tires.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...-brochure.html

Drumhawk 05-11-2013 07:13 PM

Z51 wheels look way better, the stockers would look okay in black not silver.

rexracerx9 05-11-2013 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by gthal (Post 1583875251)
Agreed... GM said the Z51 PSS have more of a racing compound vs. standard PSS tires. Why they are both branded PSS is beyond my logic... talk about confusion when trying to replace them!!

The super soft-sticky racing compound and really aggressive alignment is probably how they got a good chunk of the track performance improvements with the C7 Z51. Down side is tread life or possibly lack of it. Replacing them fairly often would not surprise me. Rear tires on Porsche 911s need replacing every 10K miles or so if you drive mildly sporty on the street. 5K-6K miles if you track on weekends.

Back to OP's topic...I like the black Z51 wheels!

speedlink 05-11-2013 07:44 PM

I'm thinking Z51. But the standard wheels will be easier to clean.

Xfactors 05-12-2013 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Sin City (Post 1583868708)
I love the 51 wheels.

Same here. I think they look great.

-CM- 05-12-2013 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by jimmyb (Post 1583873240)
Do you happen to have a photo (as good as the one you posted!!) of the machine finished base wheel?

Also, I like the base wheel better.

Jimmy

Other than the fairly useless mini-pic in the latest sales guide, I have not seen any pictures of the machine-faced wheel.

Dans C6 05-12-2013 08:18 AM

I actually like the base wheel better. :hide:

MikeyTX 05-12-2013 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Dans C6 (Post 1583878416)
I actually like the base wheel better. :hide:

No need to hide. There are many that do.

gthal 05-12-2013 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by MikeyTX (Post 1583878428)
No need to hide. There are many that do.

:iagree: I was just about to say the same thing... it is subjective.

jimmyb 05-12-2013 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by -CM- (Post 1583878241)
Other than the fairly useless mini-pic in the latest sales guide, I have not seen any pictures of the machine-faced wheel.

Thanks. That picture in the sales guide is indeed useless.

Jimmy

Bill17601 05-12-2013 09:17 AM

Speaking of the sales guide. Does anyone have a link to the newest sales guide? The one that includes pictures of the interiors. I have misplaced mine.
Thanks.
I love both StingRay and z51 wheels.

sam90lx 05-12-2013 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Dans C6 (Post 1583878416)
I actually like the base wheel better. :hide:

The wheels are fine...it is the car!:ack:

-CM- 05-12-2013 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by rexracerx9 (Post 1583875482)
The super soft-sticky racing compound and really aggressive alignment is probably how they got a good chunk of the track performance improvements with the C7 Z51. Down side is tread life or possibly lack of it. Replacing them fairly often would not surprise me. Rear tires on Porsche 911s need replacing every 10K miles or so if you drive mildly sporty on the street. 5K-6K miles if you track on weekends.

Back to OP's topic...I like the black Z51 wheels!

Hmmm, that's interesting info. I'm thinking my first "mod" will be to have a less aggressive alignment done. Since I'll probably be getting the car just in time for winter to start, I'll need to put on A/S tires anyway. No sense in having an alignment that eats tires without any gained advantage.

gthal 05-12-2013 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by sam90lx (Post 1583879212)
The wheels are fine...it is the car!:ack:

If that's how you feel, then why bother with your 50 posts a day? :lol:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...kenRecord.jpeg

sam90lx 05-12-2013 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by gthal (Post 1583880709)
Then why bother with your 50 posts a day here?

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...kenRecord.jpeg

Did you break your Bee Gee's record?

gthal 05-12-2013 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by sam90lx (Post 1583880745)
Did you break your Bee Gee's record?

Hey, I like the Bee Gees.... let's not get personal here :D

Mike Mercury 05-13-2013 11:46 AM

I like the base wheels as well. I ordered the painted base rims on my 2002; and never second guessed the decision.

Later, I upgraded to the C6 factory base painted rims.

The C7 Z51 rims are good as well :yesnod:

BlueOx 05-13-2013 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by gthal (Post 1583880756)
Hey, I like the Bee Gees.... let's not get personal here :D

Careful, don't forget that "it's just emotion".


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