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SS409 07-13-2013 08:18 PM

110 octane "leaded" gas
 
I would like to mix this with the 91 octane 10% ethanol blend here in So Ca. Two gallons mixed with 15 gallons of 91 should net out at around 93.
Is there any reason why I shouldn't mix leaded gas with the ethanol blend? This would be for a 66 327/350hp L79 with 11 to 1 compression. Thanks

Mike Ward 07-13-2013 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by SS409 (Post 1584399656)
I would like to mix this with the 91 octane 10% ethanol blend here in So Ca.

Why? Are you experiencing detonation?

SS409 07-13-2013 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Mike Ward (Post 1584399893)
Why? Are you experiencing detonation?

Yes, the previous owner decided to keep the 11 to 1 compression. :(
I've been using NOS racing formula octane booster with good results but I don't care for the buildup on my spark plugs, cylinders and valves that the MMT is creating.

I don't think the leaded fuel would be a problem but I'm very familiar with murphy's law.

ghostrider20 07-13-2013 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by SS409 (Post 1584400175)
Yes, the previous owner decided to keep the 11 to 1 compression. :(
I've been using NOS racing formula octane booster with good results but I don't care for the buildup on my spark plugs, cylinders and valves that the MMT is creating.

I don't think the leaded fuel would be a problem but I'm very familiar with murphy's law.

The NOS octane booster is worthless in all regards.

Mixing fuels as you plan is fine, will mix as well as pouring two buckets of water together.

I am running the factory compression, maybe a tad more and have good results on 92 octane in all but the hottest of days in the summer.

I have and do spike with 100LL avgas. Mixed 50/50 with 92 octane yields 96 octane. 25/75 will yield 94 octane.

- Mark

DZAUTO 07-13-2013 10:15 PM

There is a race gas distributor in Okla City. I frequentlyy fill the 56 with 110 leaded. It loves it, I love it, it smells great, runs great.

cv67 07-13-2013 10:36 PM


NOS racing formula octane booster with good results
As said that stuff is garbage. When it says it raises it 3 4 points or whatever it really means from 91 to 91.3

Been using this it works real well and they will ship to Ca.
Run 11.5:1 on the street never pings. On 91 octane 34 deg was pushing it run closer to 40 now with this.

I dont drive it much so 1 six pack goes a looong ways.

http://www.wildbillscorvette.com/OctaneSupreme01.htm


Of course good race gas probably better (mixing it)

SS409 07-13-2013 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by ghostrider20 (Post 1584400399)
The NOS octane booster is worthless in all regards.

Mixing fuels as you plan is fine, will mix as well as pouring two buckets of water together.

I am running the factory compression, maybe a tad more and have good results on 92 octane in all but the hottest of days in the summer.

I have and do spike with 100LL avgas. Mixed 50/50 with 92 octane yields 96 octane. 25/75 will yield 94 octane.

- Mark

Well that answers my question about mixing lead and ethanol, thanks...

SS409 07-13-2013 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by cuisinartvette (Post 1584400839)
Been using this it works real well and they will ship to Ca.
Run 11.5:1 on the street never pings. On 91 octane 34 deg was pushing it run closer to 40 now with this.

I dont drive it much so 1 six pack goes a looong ways.

http://www.wildbillscorvette.com/OctaneSupreme01.htm

This stuff sounds interesting. I may give it a try. Thanks for all your help guys....

SS409 07-13-2013 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by DZAUTO (Post 1584400630)
There is a race gas distributor in Okla City. I frequentlyy fill the 56 with 110 leaded. It loves it, I love it, it smells great, runs great.

Tom, that's one expensive fill up :eek: 110 here is 10.00 a gallon. It must be nice to have money to burn, literally. :cheers:

DZAUTO 07-14-2013 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by SS409 (Post 1584401362)
Tom, that's one expensive fill up :eek: 110 here is 10.00 a gallon. It must be nice to have money to burn, literally. :cheers:

The 56 is NOT, repeat, NOT a daily driver. The price for 110 leaded here is about $7/gal now. When I feel extravagant, the 56 gets a healthy dose of 110.
At other times, I use 91octane NON-ethanol, which is quite common around here.

wmf62 07-14-2013 12:38 AM

every once in a while i used to mix 2 gallons 112 leaded non-ethanol with 13 gallons of 93 unleaded ethanol in my 62 when i was running the rochester injected LT1.

the engine loved it, no percolation problems on the hottest summer day; and it smelled sooooo good..

but, too expensive to run on a routine basis.
Bill

SLWRNU 07-14-2013 09:17 AM

Being in Kaaaalifornia you do know that since you've used the word "lead" that you are now on the official state watch as being an enviromental scofflaw.
Keep looking over your shoulder my friend. :hide:

ohiovet 07-14-2013 09:24 AM

I use 93 octane (Shell brand) with ethanol in my original 1962 340 HP 327 which has a 11.25 to 1 compression ratio.
No detonation or any other fuel related problems.

The Shell dealer tells me that the fuel usually has up to 10% ethanol but the wonderful state of Ohio does not require that the ethanol content to be disclosed on the pump.

burtonbl103 07-14-2013 09:52 AM

I run the 110 LL in my fuelie. It loves it.
Some time is will mix 2 gallons of 93 sunocco to 5 gal of the ll

MikeM 07-14-2013 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by SS409 (Post 1584400175)

Yes, the previous owner decided to keep the 11 to 1 compression. :(

If the engine has been blueprinted to get an actual 11-1, you MIGHT have a problem with it. If the heads/block have been just slightly surfaced and used stock compression height pistons in it, you won't have that much compression.

Before I spent money on expensive fuel, I'd check the spark curve and see what it yields. If it meets factory spec I wouldn't think you'd have a problem running 91 octane gasoline at all. But, I've never run any California 91 so don't really know.

In the meantime, my two engines that are similar to yours run fine on 89octane E 10 but they don't have aggresive spark curves in them.

Mike Ward 07-14-2013 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by SS409 (Post 1584400175)
Yes, the previous owner decided to keep the 11 to 1 compression. :(
I've been using NOS racing formula octane booster with good results but I don't care for the buildup on my spark plugs, cylinders and valves that the MMT is creating.

I don't think the leaded fuel would be a problem but I'm very familiar with murphy's law.

If the NOS octane booster (a known placebo) is curing the problem, I think the solution is obvious.

wmf62 07-14-2013 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Mike Ward (Post 1584403183)
I think the solution is obvious.

and that is???? the engine is psychosomatic?
Bill

Mike Ward 07-14-2013 10:50 AM

No, not the engine.

ohiovet 07-14-2013 10:52 AM

I have used 100LL in my 57 fuelie but after changing to Shell 93 I find it runs fine and starts hot and cold with no problems.
It is a 4360 unit which I have been told won't run good regardless of the fuel but Bob Williams of Sidney, Ohio has tuned it perfectly.

MikeM 07-14-2013 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by ohiovet (Post 1584403328)
I have used 100LL in my 57 fuelie but after changing to Shell 93 I find it runs fine and starts hot and cold with no problems.
It is a 4360 unit which I have been told won't run good regardless of the fuel but Bob Williams of Sidney, Ohio has tuned it perfectly.

That is Shell 93 E 10? Correct?


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