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brainsoft 07-22-2013 12:39 AM

1980 Interior lights and gauge cluster illumination
 
Are the 5 gauges supposed to be illuminated? I know mine are currently impossible to read in the dark making it difficult to see when I need gas at night.

Also is there a way to manually turn on the dome light? I expected to turn the headlight knob until it clicked but the dome does not come on. It comes on when the doors are opened though, so the lamp is intact.

Thanks
~Dave

2box 07-22-2013 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by brainsoft (Post 1584468368)
Are the 5 gauges supposed to be illuminated? I know mine are currently impossible to read in the dark making it difficult to see when I need gas at night.

Also is there a way to manually turn on the dome light? I expected to turn the headlight knob until it clicked but the dome does not come on. It comes on when the doors are opened though, so the lamp is intact.

Thanks
~Dave

Yes they are. If they are not You need to replace the bulbs, If You do You might want to go with Led's. Good luck

blackcorvette1980 07-22-2013 02:02 AM

Yes, the dome light should turn on when you turn the headlight knob all the way to the left. Turning the knob to the right will dim all the gauge lights.

brainsoft 07-22-2013 05:53 AM

Each gauge has its own light I assume? What size are those allen key screws?

I guess that means my headlight switch is not fully functional. It dims the main dash only.

qwank 07-22-2013 09:59 AM

the allen screws are decoration only.

You don't need LEDs, with all brand new bulbs you should be able to see fine. you do need a special bulb for the opera light that illuminates the HVAC controls though

AdamMeh 07-22-2013 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by qwank (Post 1584470015)
the allen screws are decoration only.

You don't need LEDs, with all brand new bulbs you should be able to see fine. you do need a special bulb for the opera light that illuminates the HVAC controls though

:iagree: Replaced all the bulbs in our dash with stock replacements. It's very easy to read them at night now.

Adam

qwank 07-22-2013 10:41 AM

The problem with LEDs is you will get "hot spots". so it will be brighter in some areas than others.

idtpes 07-22-2013 10:48 AM

regular bulbs are cheap. If I remember, I got an entire bumper to bumper set for $30 a few years back. well worth the investment, makes a huge difference.

brainsoft 07-22-2013 10:59 AM

I thought it was too good to be true to have a gauge so easy to remove! Does the cluster come out as one unit from the back or are there hidden screws on the front. Oh, the screws under the lip above the vents will peel off the whole front console maybe?

idtpes 07-22-2013 11:03 AM

It has been awhile since I pulled mine, but you take out the side panels along the console there are 4-6 screws that hold those two carpet pieces in place. Then you can get to screws on the plastic piece that holds the gauge cluster in place, it is one piece (I think), the gauge assembly along with the plate that covers the shifter assembly.. It appears to be two pieces but I think it is actually it is one. Remove the shift grip also by unscrewing the push button at the very top then the part that looks like a cue ball. again, my memory might be a bit fuzzy on the details w/o looking at it.

idtpes 07-22-2013 11:08 AM

p.s. no screws are on the front of the plate, decoration only.

LannyL81 07-23-2013 11:05 AM

There are six screws in the gauge console; two at the top going up into the dash and one on each side just below the midpoint and two at the very bottom corners that connect the shift console to the gauge console.

Be very easy with the electrical connector on the back of the gauge cluster. The flex circuit contacts are not very durable.

brainsoft 07-23-2013 12:30 PM

Pulled the cluster apart to check the lamps. They appear to be in working order except for the small down light. That lamp burned out and melted the housing so the lamp holder will not re-seat in the housing. The other lamps appear to be intact but will meter them tonight.

Looking at the circuit board it looks like all the general lamps are on the same pin. i guess the fuse could be blown... i will have to try to find the fuse block tonight.

AdamMeh 07-23-2013 12:56 PM

The fuse block is located under the drivers side dash. On the firewall, above where your left foot would be when sitting in the car.

brainsoft 07-23-2013 05:58 PM

Thanks Adam, I will be digging in there shortly

brainsoft 07-23-2013 11:42 PM

Okay here is what I have learned tonight

All of the lamps are good in the cluster, only the climate control opera light is fried.
None of the fuses I checked were blown. I don't know which fuse they are on but they all seems operational.
There is no 12V signal present on the pin 12 circuit that picks up all the cluster lamps.

Somewhere between the fuse block and the cluster there is a bad connection. I have a couple of pages of wiring diagrams from Mitchell on Demand and it appears the lighting circuit runs through the wiper switch. I know the dome light has some intermittent problem, and the headlight and wiper switch are right there beside each other. Perhaps I will get lucky and kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

I don't know how to remove the wiper switch however! I have the bezel off and the switch assembly only comes part way out

SciVette 07-28-2013 12:10 AM

Bad news- removing the wiper switch likely requires pulling the speedo cluster out to get behind and remove the screw that is located at the bottom of the wiper switch assembly. Also check your wiring in the dash/under the steering column. I had burned/melted wiring that caused me problems with the courtesy light and other areas. It took me forever to run that one down...

http://willcoxcorvette.com/instructi...oval_78-82.pdf

Note- These instructions say you have to pull the steering wheel. I drop the steering column down a bit and carefully remove the speedo/tach over the steering wheel. It's tricky, but can be done.

Jodie Moore 11-30-2014 06:46 PM

Tach & speedo Lights
 
after turning the lights on after a few minutes the lights for the speedo and tach just go off, won't come back on until next night then same thing.Headlight switch was replaced already.What next? Thanks people


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