Base 1LT C7
 

Since joining CF, it seems to me that most people think the base 1LT is a cheap piece of crap.Everyone can't afford a $75,000. Vette, including yours truly.When my 1LT arrives I'll post some pics of my cheap C7.I may be wrong,just my opinion. :rant:

I've never seen such a thing here. In fact, just the opposite. There was a thread where a number of people were buying 1LTs. Compare a 1LT to a base Porsche, and the C7 1LT is literally loaded. The C7 is a great car and well equipped without even one option.

Michael

Knock that chip off your shoulder! There are so many factors that go into buying a car like this with finances probably at the forefront for a good number of buyers. If you've got a ticket to the Super Bowl...who cares where you sit! Welcome to the club, and if you ever get to the Philadelphia/Delaware area let me know, I'd love to see your ride.

I would have ordered a base 1LT if it had better wheel options, so instead I ordered a Z51 1LT.

I have one of those. ......Sex on wheels....Its like a pair of true religion jeans....doesn't need diamond studs or cashmere inserts....

1LT is the only way to go for me.

I disagree with your premise entirely. IMHO most people here consider a base 1LT C7 a VERY desirable machine. Possibly not what they have or would order, but still an excellent ride. :cheers:

Here is my 1LT, Non-Z51. I would have opted for the Z51 package if there wasn't a constraint, but I can do all of those upgrades myself. The only thing out of any of the other packages I would actually use would be the heated seats, so I guess I will just have a cold ass the few times I take it out in the winter.

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I ordered and picked up my Z51 LT1 !

Beautiful Ride!:cheers:

Thanks! The list of mods is growing :)

So far I have done the following:
Added performance exhaust.
Added Z51 spoiler.
Pfadt Tune.
Passport Escort installed under my rear view mirror and hardwired to the battery/fuse box in the rear.
Powder Coated wheels black.
Windows tinted 15%.
Side markers also tinted.
Got the trunk cargo shade.
I have the Curb alert system, but need to find the time to install it.

Ordered the trunk compartment separator.
Ordered the car color license plate frame.
Ordered personalized license plates.
Ordered Pfadt headers, awaiting their arrival.

TPW Dec 2nd

My Z51 in 1LT trim. It doesn't look cheap to me... but it was much cheaper compared to loaded siblings :thumbs:

I would think that it would be the only way to go if you wanted to go fast. The LT1 Base with or without the Z51 option would be the lightest :thumbs:..........and we all know the least amount of weight translates into less HP to make it go fast

I splurged on some other options, but as to the interior, I totally went with the 1LT to save $8g's.

I actually kind of wish they had a 0LT package with the infotainment screen deleted, manually-adjusting-seats, and a regular old key for the ignition.

Its going to be my daily driver and I will mostly be the only one driving it. Once the seat is adjusted, its going to stay like that for months at a time.

I suspect I am going to need to upgrade the stereo to have enough power for top-down listening in the convertible, so would rather start from blank than have to pay for and then rip out the Bose powered speakers. All I really need is a dumb stereo front end with an accessory cord or Bluetooth to plug in my phone for all the tunes I would ever need.

I hate fat key fobs - they don't fit in the pocket well. I hardly ever lock my cars, so keyless entry is not something I would use.

I went with the 2lt for the Kalahari interior with cyber grey. I now wish I would have gotten aw 1lt with red interior.

not too far from you here in kennesaw with 1lt AW red interior! My father has a 3lt vert on the way and he loves my 1lt

Well, if it makes you feel any better, when I finally get one, it will most likely be a used 1LT, probably non Z51 at that. It's really got all the stuff I would really want anyway. (and I kind of like the looks of the non Z wheels better anyway)

I am quite active on this forum, and this is the first time I've ever seen the C7 1LT associated with "a piece of crap." Rant, indeed, but I look forward to your pictures. :cheers:

The difference between Z51 and non Z51 is about 61 pounds...And 1lt and 2lt is about 30 pounds...you've got to give team corvette credit for that accomplishment.The tire and mag weight of the Z51 is actually lighter...although being a larger diameter...I bought a 1lt non Z51, but all the Z51 goodies, with no weight penalty,...Is impressive.

I am a big fan of the 1LT.
I also like the look of the Base model better, but the Z51 package for $2,800 MSRP is a very good deal for all its contents.
Right now because the Z51's are selling for close to MSRP and Base models have discounts as much as $3,000 off MSRP, it is in effect a $5,000+ option.

The 1Lt has plenty to offer. All I want is performance exhaust and painted calipers. I will either paint the wheels black or go aftermarket. The car is a big advance over my 2LT C6.

I only buy 1LT cars, IMO anything else is wasting money.

Congratulations on your purchase, OP.

I don't think that anyone on this forum (besides the usual trolls) turns their nose on ANY C7.

This also is my first Corvette, VIN 3824, R8C Halloween delivery, and it is fantastic.

Yeah, I went with everything, since this may also be my last car like this, at least for a while. 3LT Z51...

The car is literally AWSOME!

Enjoy your ride!

The big reason that the car came in so heavy was the emphasis on luxury and gadgets, which for me, is off target. If GM wanted to sell a decontented car at less money, that would be a bonus, but I'd probably also be willing to pay a premium to get the fat out of it.

Or really any Corvette, for that matter.

Does the 1LT have real leather seats or the leatherette ones that crack. Wish the full leather interior was an option for the 1LT. But if I but a C7 after they work out some bugs it will be a 1LT. I always do mods so I like to start without options that I might replace anyway.

:iagree: car is really nice and most people will never use all the options on the car anyway.

As for me if I ever order a C7 it will be a 1LT and probably a non Z51. It'll run in a straight with any of them and the only thing I'd miss regarding a 2LT and up is the HUD which with the new dash graphics I wouldn't need it.

So what has the tune and exhaust given you? those are normal mods for me too, plus LTH. Thats why I buy base with the non NPP, etc.

Still waiting on the headers, when I get them installed and re-tuned, then I will dyno it and post results.

Although the Z51 package is reasonable, it you never use any of the extra performance, equates just to extra cost. 1LT or 2LT, I went with the 2LT because I wanted all the toys this option includes. I didn't add performance exhaust. I never considered a 1LT inferior. I may modify option packages on the next C7 in a few years. The option package decision was based on not actually having test drove a C7. I will test a Z51 when I can to sample what I'm missing.

1LT with Z51 and exhaust @ $55990 is the way to go with black interior.
I think the all black interior and Bose radio does not look like a base car anymore. Park it next to even a 3LT and most people will not notice the difference . The Bose radio in my C7 sounds way better then the Bose in my 13 CTS coupe.

I looked at a base 1LT along side several other C7s in various performance/interior trim. My impression of the base car is that it is a LOT of car for $51,995. I particularly paid close attention to the interior - the 1LT is nicely optioned and very attractive - I came away with a very positive impression of the 1LT - I am leaning towards that package after having looked at it.

The only thing appearance wise that came across as lacking were the base wheels - they seemed very small in the wheel wells compared to the Z51 cars. That said, I don't really care for any of the upgraded rims anyway and will likely get aftermarket rims.

Here is the 1LT all black interior. Some one said you can order red seats to make it look like the 2LT with red seats.

Yes, 1LT has the choice of Black, Red, or Gray seats. But its just the seats. No red leather on the doors or armrest so it won't look like the red 2LT.

You have been a member of this Forum for less than 30 days and yet you can state that MOST people here think the base 1LT is a cheap piece of crap. Can you please provide a link to other posts that would lead you to make such a statement.

Are the seat real leather or leatherette?

From the GM website:Perforated Mulan leather seating surfaces:thumbs:

So no cracking?

I have not received my C7 yet (soon). From what I have read on various threads here it appears that the quality of the C7 seats are better than that of the C6. EVEN the 1LT.
Check info here:http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...n-leather.html

There's nothing wrong with a 1LT at all. NOTHING.

If you don't want the options in the other packages then get the 1LT for sure and save your money or headaches about payments.

The snobbery on the forums can run high, but if you think you've seen it so far, wait until the new Z0x car is released. Then you will see some really impressive examples of people being talked down to about their "fake" or "poser" $75k car. :rofl:

We need 1LT cars, if not there is a large portion of the enthusiasts that would be left w/o an option to own a new Corvette.

By the looks of your avatar, you have more to worry about than cracking your seats when you sit:eek::leaving::cheers:

Let me begin by apologizing for the comment "piece of crap".I definitely have not seen that comment in this forum. I guess being about all I see are 2LT or 3LT on the forum ,I assumed "piece of crap",and we all know what assume means.I would loved to have gotten the 2LT because of the HUD which I had on my 2011 2LT Camaro. Finances this time just wasn't there. As you can see by my avatar I get grumpy sometimes,especially waiting for my C7 to arrive. You guys and gals :rock:

Not a problem and I knew what you meant....it's just forums.....here there is lots of it from some that morph things out of control...there are many and usually their common denominator is if you don't get certain things, you are cheap or less than a man:
Auto trans
1lt (or even 2lt)
Z51
Anything less than $9k wheels
"Wax" instead of "track"

And many more and just my opin....

I hear you. I was getting cold feet on my decision for a 2LT based on the comments and actually almost gave in to the peer pressure to buy a 3LT car. Then I came to my senses and put that money into another option I wanted instead, the competition seats. :)

I won't BS you, you already know that the HUD is nice, but it isn't required. When I go out and get into my daily driver or into my SUV I don't have the HUD and I get along just fine. Yeah, it was cool in my 2004 and 2011, but really just an "extra".

:iagree:

There are way too many people on the internet that pretend to know exactly what you and I need.

1LT, Z51 here...MSRP $59,805

:rock:

Actually, taht is what I meant to say! :thumbs:

[sarcasm]You mean to tell me you had a mere 1LT detailed by one of the best? You Crazeee.[/sarcasm]

Both you and your sister's cars look great and actually have me going back and forth if I want to add the black mirrors and spoiler on my AW. Seeing them side by side has made me give more consideration to the option... and I slept less last night, so thank you. ;)

For me its simple.

2LT has heads up heated and cooled seats, better sound system, and HUD. If you don't want those then get 1LT.

Z51 has ELSD, larger front brakes, dry sump oil system, diff cooling, sway bar (stabalizer bar) , "unique aero" as stated in the brochure, available mag suspension, better tires, and bigger wheels.

1LT non Z51 has none of this. To many it's a no brainer to get at least a z51 (but I go to the track 5-8 times a year). If you just want a vette to have a vette... all the power to you for saving money.

Enjoy what you have and don't care about what others think... it's still a nice looking vette.

I'm too lazy to look to verify, but as I recall, the 2LT in C7 form does not have as many must-have goodies as it did in C6 form, like nav. For that reason, if/when I get a C7, I will give much consideration to the 1LT. Particularly if there is no difference in the sound quality other than the addition of a center channel for the 2LT audio system.

But it's comments like this that I don't like. Not everyone that ordered a non-Z51 did so to save money. I ordered a non-Z51 because I didn't want to wait 6-8 months to get my car. I ordered a non-Z51 and got the car in 28 days from walking into the dealer. Constraints suck, and I am a "have to have what I want now kind of guy". Everything in the Z51 package can be done in the after market arena anyway.

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I have a 3LT on order, but ANY C7 is a beautiful machine. You should be very happy with it. I certainly would be.

:thumbs: I ordered a non Z51 car mainly because I didn't want the dry sump engine. I have noticed some people are just discovering; longer warm up time and other different procedures associated with this system, not to mention the additional 5 quarts of oil. I also am not excited about the larger rear spoiler, detracts from the sleek look of the convertible with the top down.

Hey those who want a 1LT, more power to them. Those of us on the other end of the spectrum, who wouldn't consider anything but a 3LT, to take full advantage of the totally upgraded interior, more power to us. I'm sure both camps are happy with their different view of a "good deal".

I think one of the most appealing things about the Corvette is that it is a great value in any trim. For many that are accustomed to driving Mercedes, BMW, etc, the 3LT trim is probably a must have. It's still a great value. For those that are stepping up from pony cars, or older editions, perhaps all the leather wrapping won't be missed.

However, in either trim, we all still get the great performance based core. The one thing GM has always done well with the Corvette is to balance attainable with desireable. :cheers:

It was Fun reading all the different opinions and statements in this thread!


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I have owned some luxury cars....Mercedes, BMW, etc.....however my choice to buy a 1LT was to enjoy a true sport car. The new 1LT gives me 99% of what those cars offer. CarPlay covers all the entertainment/navigation, and the performance selection and dash board display leaves little out. The upgraded models are, IMO, expensive, but each to their own. I like the cleanliness of the 1LT w/o ground effects, over size spoilers, racing strips, and cockpit convinces I can do without.

For those who want over the top performance, I respect their choice. No one has the right to judge another’s taste in what they own/drive. We do belong to the same club. I was a Harley own for many years and feel a similar connection. I also owned a C5 and a C4.....the C7 again IMO is head and shoulders superior but I would never put down or disrespect the owners or any other model.

I have a 3LT but that's only because I found it used at a good price. Otherwise would have been a 1LT....

My one year evaluation 2018 1lt z51 wheels,carbon flash trim, non npp. M7. Bought new did not order it its now showing 8,876 mi. Traded my one owner 2012 challenger srt, m 6 in on it. I’m 73, it’s our d d, I’ve had all the bells and whistles on other cars, never used some options. This basic Vette for us has been a hoot! Only thing I would of ordered npp. Easy after market up grade. The lbr color looks great with black trim. These 1lt’s are perfect for someone who doesn’t track, don’t need the added expense of the dry sump, and extra weight. The cars only issue was a gas gauge malfunction, fixed on warranty. No rattles,leaks, squeaks, weired sounds out of the engine, we did change tire alignment to street, and have not noticed any handling issues, I do push this car, to my limits, and it just begs for more, it is more car for the $ than any car we looked at. In the end it’s personal preference that for each individual is the difference, in my opinion.

hang on, only the cars with the Z51 package have the dry sump setup?

as for trim levels, honestly as with most cars these days, choice of trim has little to do with the base product. we're all getting mostly the same car, with the exception of the ZR of course. the bells and whistles are more about the overall driving experience and thats such a subjective thing that its not even worth pecking over, imo.

From 5 years ago...holy resurrected thread batman!

I’ve had my 1LT Z51 for a little over a year. This December, I briefly thought about trading it for a 2LT GS. The extra interior options along with magnetic ride were appealing to me, but I noticed that the only time I miss these options is when I’m not driving my car. On the other hand, when I’m driving my Corvette I don’t even think about the lack of heated seats or the ability to change the ride quality. (I hardly toggle between driving modes anyways. It mostly stays in “Sport”).

That was true in the 2014 model year when this thread was started, but since that time the Grand Sport, Z06 and ZR1 have been introduced, and all of them have the dry sump setup too.

1LT is what I drive in the C7 and I saw it as the smoking deal that it is. I almost got the 2019 Z06 but it wasn’t the extra money but the extra ponies, that I would use little if much at all. The Z06 was too special for me to own, the car deserves an owner that can put it to work, which clearly isn’t me. So the 2019 Stingray has been a huge thrill over my C6 that every time I roll that car out of the garage, My day could not start off more positive and more money in my Stingray wouldn’t take the Thrill Meter up whatsoever than it already reads. btw/ I never heard anyone here ever put down a 1LT.

You must not have seen any posts by Skid Row Joe then, as he makes it his mission to put down 1LT owners every chance he gets :rolleyes:

NO, not every one thinks that way. In fact, I'd pay extra to have less s**t than the 1LT has on it! :lol: :thumbs:

But, to each his or her own. :yesnod:

oh, interesting. i have a 2LT and i really felt that was best, this is my daily so didnt wanna deal with the stiffer suspension and didnt like the sound of all the nonsense with the dry sump, funky procedures and alot more oil required etcetc.

Almost 5 and a half years of ownership ...
Couldn’t be happier.
Today ,it’s the most exclusive Vette everywhere I go(1LT,with a 450$ limerock green paint option)...every Vette I see has jumbo wings /hood stripes.

Porsche and BMW can oblige you! I think both make “stripper” models for about $10K over a fully loaded model.

If he’s still at it, it’s because he hides behind his keyboard and hasn’t been doing it to peoples faces.

"Porsche and BMW can oblige you! I think both make “stripper” models for about $10K over a fully loaded model." I'm sure you're right, Billy, but then it wouldn't be a Vette, as well... now would it? :lol:

I wanted a base 1LT because it has the least amount of stuff on it that I did not want. Instead of wasting money, I used the base as a "base" to configure the car exactly the way I want. Even with this strategy there is a lot of electronic-based functionality that I haven't used after a year of ownership

LOL No. But they are the only two brands who have the cajones to charge a premium price for a car with less features. It's almost a case of "the emperor has no clothes".

Well I've learned to spend my money wisely and since I only have limited income, I not only bought a 1LT Stingray, I ordered it! I still could not justify spending 4K more for a 2LT or 8K for a 3LT. However, if I still lived up north at the time with the crappy roads I might have gone with a Z51 but I knew at the time that a base C7 handled as well as a C6 GS. So here's the picture of my 2014 LT1 Stingray. :flag:

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I perfectly happy with my 1LT that I custom ordered😎
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I recently got my own 1LT too! Was about to purchase an aftermarket exhaust from someone for my non-npp setup until my wife decided she didnt want the car any louder than what is is. No big deal. But I do want the look of the performance exhaust at the least. Is there anyway I can do that???

Oh yea. The ultimate base 1LT stingray with 0 options is amazing and dont let anyone tell you different. It's my daily driver. The c8 will be my babied, balls to the wall super car.

agreed
 

[QUOTE=Michael A;1585531507]I've never seen such a thing here. In fact, just the opposite. There was a thread where a number of people were buying 1LTs. Compare a 1LT to a base Porsche, and the C7 1LT is literally loaded. The C7 is a great car and well equipped without even one option.

I think of 1LTs as a supermodel in jeans and a T

[QUOTE=dbirdhouse1;1598866852]I like that perspective!

I ordered a 1LT Z51 Vert, my preference. Love it. Didn't want all the BS included with the higher optioned versions. Just my thing.

I say, buy the 1LT and then mod it to what you like. When you are cruising down the road and turning heads, I can promise they are not saying "oh, thats only a 1LT". Enjoy the ride! Congrats!

Exactly what i did. My car is a 1lt and i got to admit it wasnt too pretty but after the makeover of mods, no way would one think oh this is the cheap varient.
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Day i got it
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Day i got it. Bare ass nekkid
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Custom carbon fiber steering wheel and oem carbon fiber dash.
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Rk sport carbon fiber diffuser and custom z51 carbon fiber rear wing. Carbon flash emblems and stingray brake decal.
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Corsa extreme axle back exhaust with black tips
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What it looks like today. G3 carbon stage 2 side skirts and front splitter Oem caron fiber exposed top Z06 front grill swap Carbon center caps
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Carbon flash mirrors painted.

Been an awesome experience!

I went with the 1LT package for my '17 GS Vert as the additional features of the 2LT didn't interest me. You don't typically get to the point where you can purchase most anything you want, by purchasing things you don't want.

I purchased the 1LT because I believe GM sells the options at to high a price.I have added about $15k since I bought it.And
saved big.

I have a 2015 1LT and proud of it.
I have added on the things I really wanted like Black Wheels, Stinger Stripe and Gray Interior Accents.

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Silver Stinger Strip with Black Stingray Side Stripe and Red Hash Marks as an homage to the Grand Sport.

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2LT Gray Dash Pad and Custom Gray/Black Console Cover

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Aluminum Paddle Shifter Extensions

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Vintage Stingray Emblems

a la carte, FTW.

1LT package + ...
3LT leather
Memory seats (no heated/cooled)
Dry sump
ELSD

To clarify, that would be how I would order it if you could pick and choose options.

Great discussion.

The equation really changes when you buy used. I just picked up a 2015 2LT Z51 with another $8K (sticker) of options for maybe $4K more than a completely base C7 of the same year, miles and condition would have cost me. So it was a pretty easy decision to get all that stuff for < $.25 on the dollar. I think at even $.50 on the dollar I’d have much rather gone basic. Having been in the car a few days now, I can already tell that a 1LT non-Z51 delivers 99% of what you obtain a C7 for.

Not to say I’m not enjoying all the bells and whistles :D

The only things I really cared about were GS Coupe, manual transmission, and Comp Sport seats. Next down the list were exterior color, and no black wheels. I am very happy with my 1LT. The rest of the options are just "fluff".

Unless getting a Z06 in the 1LT you dont get the HUD. Which is a shame.

Not to mention no Lumbar in the seats. How they produce a seat today in a modern automobile without lumbar of any type is beyond me.

I ordered a 1LT Z51 because it had everything I wanted and nothing I didn't want.
A 1LT by NO means is stripped down.

\db2

Also, have a non-Z51 1LT. Had the spoiler and exhaust, and added in the Z51 wheels after I purchased. Wonderful car and to each his own. The only negative feedback I have gotten is from 1) people who don't own a Corvette 2) people who don't know what the heck they are talking about. I was told once it must suck to have so much less HP having a non-Z51. Um yeah, ok..... it's still 460hp. This C6 owner I was conversing with was actually serious. Was also asked another time how I can live without the heads up display. Well, I live without it in my 67 Vette and do just fine with that, so...... LOL :-)

I agree, why pay for stuff you don't want or need. The $4500 saved almost paid for my convertible upgrade and that's lot more fun that the few trinkets the 2LT package gets you. :thumbs:
And you are correct, hardly stripped down
1LT Trim/Equipment Package:
includes 8” touchscreen, Bose AM-FM 9 speaker stereo, 3 month Sirius/XM,MP3, MyLink, OnStar, 4G LTE, 8” HD driver info screen, leather power GT sports seats, power break set/release, power locks/windows, active handling, dual-zone AC, keyless access/start, power tilt/telescopic, leather wrap steering w/flat bottom wheel, cruise control, tire pressure monitor, driver, passenger and side airbags, carbon fiber hood, Bremo 4-piston disc brakes, rear view camera, coup- body color painted carbon fiber roof panels, convertible- power soft-top which can be lowered remotely.

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Had a 2015 1LT and loved it. Will pick up my new 2019 1LT tomorrow (will be my 5th Vette to date). IMO less is best when it comes to gadgets and most of the whistles and bells on today's cars). New car has A8 and performance exhaust. That is all that matters to me. Can't wait.

It has a lumbar support...it is just not adjustable.

That's correct, and I find the 1LT seats very comfortable as seems most others do.