ZR1 vs 2015 Z06
02-13-2014, 10:59 PM
#1
Team Owner
Thread Starter
ZR1 vs 2015 Z06
With Zr1's running as fast as 10.2-10.4 and 133-134 traps.
1/4 maybe close stick to stick. Bets off on the auto!
The ZR1 may well end up. Losing around a track but you should able to at least count and use to compare with updated rubber. But going by the C7.
The Z06 will still win this test.
Stopping the ZR1 still should be about a tie with carbon brakes on the loaded Z06.
Should out stop the base Z06!
The ZR1 may win the top speed and 40 to XXX due to lighter with great gearing. Other factors play in too!
The down force on the new Z06 may hurt it's top speed.
The new Z06 will be amazing after getting a few hundred miles on my C7. It is way ahead of the base C-6!
It is all internet racing till the new car hits the streets!
1/4 maybe close stick to stick. Bets off on the auto!
The ZR1 may well end up. Losing around a track but you should able to at least count and use to compare with updated rubber. But going by the C7.
The Z06 will still win this test.
Stopping the ZR1 still should be about a tie with carbon brakes on the loaded Z06.
Should out stop the base Z06!
The ZR1 may win the top speed and 40 to XXX due to lighter with great gearing. Other factors play in too!
The down force on the new Z06 may hurt it's top speed.
The new Z06 will be amazing after getting a few hundred miles on my C7. It is way ahead of the base C-6!
It is all internet racing till the new car hits the streets!
02-13-2014, 11:41 PM
#2
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Bone-Stock on Stock Tires
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Rank~~ E.T.~~ Trap~ 60'~ Driver~~~~~ M.Yr. Details Thread Video
1~~~~ 10.664 132.92 1.68 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
2~~~~ 10.740 133.21 1.74 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
3~~~~ 10.794 132.21 1.80 jamie furman ~ 2009 details~~ thread
4~~~~ 10.851 129.89 1.70 racerns ~~~~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
5~~~~ 10.950 131.61 1.83 VY ZR1 ~~~~~ 2009 details
6~~~~ 11.071 129.87 1.87 SlowZo6 ~~~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
7~~~~ 11.235 125.99 1.99 Incon306~~~~ 2010 details
8~~~~ 11.626 125.33 1.97 DebRedZR1~~~2010 details~~ thread
Bone-Stock on Stock Tires
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Rank~~ E.T.~~ Trap~ 60'~ Driver~~~~~ M.Yr. Details Thread Video
1~~~~ 10.664 132.92 1.68 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
2~~~~ 10.740 133.21 1.74 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
3~~~~ 10.794 132.21 1.80 jamie furman ~ 2009 details~~ thread
4~~~~ 10.851 129.89 1.70 racerns ~~~~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
5~~~~ 10.950 131.61 1.83 VY ZR1 ~~~~~ 2009 details
6~~~~ 11.071 129.87 1.87 SlowZo6 ~~~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
7~~~~ 11.235 125.99 1.99 Incon306~~~~ 2010 details
8~~~~ 11.626 125.33 1.97 DebRedZR1~~~2010 details~~ thread
I would also be more interested in stock 60-130 times...like this
:
7.60 - JHDavis / MHP S2 SLS AMG
7.65 - DadsR8 / R8 / GMG exhaust APR tune
7.71 - TMC CL65, '09 CTS-V with 8.6" pulley, CAI, LS7 ported TB, headers w/ cats, heat exchanger
7.71 - JHDavis / E63 with MHP S2 package (tune/exhaust/filters) /
7.74 - HoustonT / GT-R / 640 HP (downpipes, y-pipe, BC, hard IC pipes, custom tune)
7.84 - ImolaMpower / 2006 BMW E46 M3 6-speed manual with a Gintani Stage 2 Supercharger with Methanol, OEM CSL headers and MS109 race gas / 1-shift
7.85 - Acicchelli / Stock LP640 / 2-shifts
7.86 - Divexxtreme / Stock C6 Z06 / 2-shifts
7.89 - Snorman / 2013 GT500 Stock / 1-shift
7.95 - Byzantine / '06 Gallardo 6-MT, catless exhaust & 105lb weight reduction, 2-shifts
8.03 - Mthis / c63 full bolt ons and oe tuning 100oct / 2 shifts
8.04 - JHDavis / SL65 with tune
8.08 - Dads C63 / Bolt-On C63 AMG
8.16 - 930chas / E55 AMG
8.16 - TTBoost / SL65 / EuroCharged ECU/TCU
8.25 - Dodger63 / C63 MHP headers, tune, intake, scoops, DRs and skinnies, race fuel
8.24 - DrivenAgain / CL600 AMG
7.65 - DadsR8 / R8 / GMG exhaust APR tune
7.71 - TMC CL65, '09 CTS-V with 8.6" pulley, CAI, LS7 ported TB, headers w/ cats, heat exchanger
7.71 - JHDavis / E63 with MHP S2 package (tune/exhaust/filters) /
7.74 - HoustonT / GT-R / 640 HP (downpipes, y-pipe, BC, hard IC pipes, custom tune)
7.84 - ImolaMpower / 2006 BMW E46 M3 6-speed manual with a Gintani Stage 2 Supercharger with Methanol, OEM CSL headers and MS109 race gas / 1-shift
7.85 - Acicchelli / Stock LP640 / 2-shifts
7.86 - Divexxtreme / Stock C6 Z06 / 2-shifts
7.89 - Snorman / 2013 GT500 Stock / 1-shift
7.95 - Byzantine / '06 Gallardo 6-MT, catless exhaust & 105lb weight reduction, 2-shifts
8.03 - Mthis / c63 full bolt ons and oe tuning 100oct / 2 shifts
8.04 - JHDavis / SL65 with tune
8.08 - Dads C63 / Bolt-On C63 AMG
8.16 - 930chas / E55 AMG
8.16 - TTBoost / SL65 / EuroCharged ECU/TCU
8.25 - Dodger63 / C63 MHP headers, tune, intake, scoops, DRs and skinnies, race fuel
8.24 - DrivenAgain / CL600 AMG
"40 to XXX" is a pretty useless metric.
S.
02-13-2014, 11:46 PM
#3
Team Owner
Thread Starter
02-13-2014, 11:48 PM
#5
Team Owner
Thread Starter
Not seeing a stock "10.2-10.4" ET there and one car that ran 133 mph. Am I missing something?
I would also be more interested in stock 60-130 times...like this :
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...le-thread.html
"40 to XXX" is a pretty useless metric.
S.
I would also be more interested in stock 60-130 times...like this
:http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...le-thread.html
"40 to XXX" is a pretty useless metric.
S.
02-13-2014, 11:54 PM
#6
Team Owner
Thread Starter
Total joke when someone says "Not stock tires!
When they lose! Lets see if the new car beats those times with a stick!
I doubt it!
The ZR1 has **** tires and wheels with the
good tires and wheels like the new Z does make difference!
Who cares the rubber should be equal!
When they lose! Lets see if the new car beats those times with a stick!
I doubt it!
The ZR1 has **** tires and wheels with the
good tires and wheels like the new Z does make difference!
Who cares the rubber should be equal!
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 02-13-2014 at 11:56 PM.
02-13-2014, 11:54 PM
#7
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02-14-2014, 12:03 AM
#8
Team Owner
Thread Starter
Trying to decide on a blower kit! These cars will be killer with 600
rwhp!
With that the new Z would be a waste of money for me, slower
and needs mods to keep up!
I don't worry about circle tracks times. That's a waste of time worse than all week at the strip. Just real world when
the challenge next to me comes at the right place and time.
02-14-2014, 02:56 AM
#9
Total joke when someone says "Not stock tires!
When they lose! Lets see if the new car beats those times with a stick!
I doubt it!
The ZR1 has **** tires and wheels with the
good tires and wheels like the new Z does make difference!
Who cares the rubber should be equal!
When they lose! Lets see if the new car beats those times with a stick!
I doubt it!
The ZR1 has **** tires and wheels with the
good tires and wheels like the new Z does make difference!
Who cares the rubber should be equal!
Going from 20s to 18s means the car will put more power thru the wheels to the ground. Also that combo is lighter than the stock so its no wonder it can trap 134/135 and sometimes 136..
Good luck doing 134/135 @ stock size wheel/rubber.
02-14-2014, 09:07 AM
#10
Safety Car
Lighter wheels don't account for 5mph increase....it's all wether and negative DA that are the main reason....plus anyone trying to run a best ET using 35 series tires (run flats to boot) is just pissing in the wind. It will be the same with the new Z06. Yes it will have better rubbers subjectively speaking, but trust me, slap a set of DR's and it too will pick up...nm if you got an auto, that's going to fly....
I'd say breaking distance might* be a tad longer since the car is going to be heavier BUT it has better tires, so that might null out too....
What's left is a stick to stick 30 roll to 120 and the ZR1 might come a head slightly, again, being a little bit lighter (assuming the Z doesn't click much past 3400....)
Again, my opinion is, other than at the race track, the cars should be equal (stick vs stick), and the Z06 will be faster on the race track...I don't expect a massive difference...other than the MSRP Lol
I'd say breaking distance might* be a tad longer since the car is going to be heavier BUT it has better tires, so that might null out too....
What's left is a stick to stick 30 roll to 120 and the ZR1 might come a head slightly, again, being a little bit lighter (assuming the Z doesn't click much past 3400....)
Again, my opinion is, other than at the race track, the cars should be equal (stick vs stick), and the Z06 will be faster on the race track...I don't expect a massive difference...other than the MSRP Lol
02-14-2014, 09:40 AM
#11
Pro
ZR1 vs. Z06
I think overall the "Z06" will win in every category. Now, when I say "Z06" I mean in total all 3 different variants they said they will market including the Z07. Having said that, the ZR1 may be faster in a straight line and top speed than say the Z07 due to the significant amount of aero for track purposes on the Z07. But then again, the ZR1 may be slower in a straight line than the base Z06, but faster around a track (weight and brakes advantage) than the base model.
Of course, this is just pure speculation.
I think overall the "Z06" will win in every category. Now, when I say "Z06" I mean in total all 3 different variants they said they will market including the Z07. Having said that, the ZR1 may be faster in a straight line and top speed than say the Z07 due to the significant amount of aero for track purposes on the Z07. But then again, the ZR1 may be slower in a straight line than the base Z06, but faster around a track (weight and brakes advantage) than the base model.
Of course, this is just pure speculation.
02-14-2014, 10:06 AM
#12
Lighter wheels don't account for 5mph increase....it's all wether and negative DA that are the main reason....plus anyone trying to run a best ET using 35 series tires (run flats to boot) is just pissing in the wind. It will be the same with the new Z06. Yes it will have better rubbers subjectively speaking, but trust me, slap a set of DR's and it too will pick up...nm if you got an auto, that's going to fly....
I'd say breaking distance might* be a tad longer since the car is going to be heavier BUT it has better tires, so that might null out too....
What's left is a stick to stick 30 roll to 120 and the ZR1 might come a head slightly, again, being a little bit lighter (assuming the Z doesn't click much past 3400....)
Again, my opinion is, other than at the race track, the cars should be equal (stick vs stick), and the Z06 will be faster on the race track...I don't expect a massive difference...other than the MSRP Lol
I'd say breaking distance might* be a tad longer since the car is going to be heavier BUT it has better tires, so that might null out too....
What's left is a stick to stick 30 roll to 120 and the ZR1 might come a head slightly, again, being a little bit lighter (assuming the Z doesn't click much past 3400....)
Again, my opinion is, other than at the race track, the cars should be equal (stick vs stick), and the Z06 will be faster on the race track...I don't expect a massive difference...other than the MSRP Lol
02-14-2014, 10:23 AM
#14
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02-14-2014, 02:22 PM
#16
Safety Car
02-14-2014, 02:33 PM
#17
Race Director
Threads like this kill me. Until the Z06 hits the streets, NOT one person knows which is faster in a straight line. GM has already stated that the new Z06 is faster around a track!!
02-14-2014, 02:34 PM
#18
Safety Car
02-14-2014, 02:35 PM
#19
Safety Car
some educated guesses are fun....
02-14-2014, 03:01 PM
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Personally I believe the ZR1 will have better acceleration performance as it will probably be at least 100lbs lighter than the new ZO6.
That being said, I am seriously thinking of trading in my ZR for the new ZO6.
In my opinion it looks fantastic, the interior is a huge upgrade, and the removable roof and available automatic transmission sweeten the deal even more.
I wasnt a big fan of the Stingray, as I felt the performance was not a significant jump from the Grandsport C6 and not crazy about the exterior.
The ZO6 on the other hand is a huge performance upgrade relative to the C6 ZO6 and looks positively sinister.
If the new ZO6 is reasonably priced, Im pretty sure it will replace my ZR1.
That being said, I am seriously thinking of trading in my ZR for the new ZO6.
In my opinion it looks fantastic, the interior is a huge upgrade, and the removable roof and available automatic transmission sweeten the deal even more.
I wasnt a big fan of the Stingray, as I felt the performance was not a significant jump from the Grandsport C6 and not crazy about the exterior.
The ZO6 on the other hand is a huge performance upgrade relative to the C6 ZO6 and looks positively sinister.
If the new ZO6 is reasonably priced, Im pretty sure it will replace my ZR1.