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Old 07-06-2016, 05:59 PM
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I'm getting ready to have a A&A supercharger kit installed on my 2016 C7 non z51. I've researched using the forum search tool but still have a few questions I would like to through out to the experienced gear heads.

1) Is 600 rwhp safe without forged pistons?

2) I have the Elite Engineering x2 catch can with the clean side separator, will this suffice?

3) Any other supporting mods that should be done with the SC install?


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Old 07-06-2016, 10:01 PM
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You will be below 600rwhp so pistons are not an issue.

Catch can is a good idea with boost. Not sure about that particular one.

Nothing else unless you need more power.
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Your good to go, bottom end is fine with that set up. Make sure the tune is good and enjoy.
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Old 07-07-2016, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucknut2006
You will be below 600rwhp so pistons are not an issue.

Catch can is a good idea with boost. Not sure about that particular one.

Nothing else unless you need more power.
You don't think I can get 600 rwhp with just the A&A setup?
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Originally Posted by VAVetteC7
You don't think I can get 600 rwhp with just the A&A setup?
With a manual you'll be right around 570 rwhp
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To be more safe add meth and it will add around another 20whp to so it is possible with meth
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Originally Posted by VAVetteC7
You don't think I can get 600 rwhp with just the A&A setup?
I would expect more around 560rwhp. I hit 590rwhp on my ECS setup with LT headers.
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Originally Posted by Bucknut2006
I would expect more around 560rwhp. I hit 590rwhp on my ECS setup with LT headers.
I was wondering if headers would make a difference, most of the info I have read said the stock exhaust flows extremely well up to 700 rwhp. So I didn't think headers would do much for me, at least for the cost anyway.

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Originally Posted by Seannyc
To be more safe add meth and it will add around another 20whp to so it is possible with meth
I'm kinda of on the fence about meth, I get what the benefits are, I'm just not sure I want to be worried about making sure I have enough with me for my travels. If I used meth to get more horse power I would still need to raise boost, correct? If I increased boost more then say 7 to 8 psi wouldn't it increase my risk for a potential piston failure?
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Originally Posted by VAVetteC7
I was wondering if headers would make a difference, most of the info I have read said the stock exhaust flows extremely well up to 700 rwhp. So I didn't think headers would do much for me, at least for the cost anyway.
They make a difference but nothing like adding a supercharger. Maybe 30hp in most scenarios.
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Did anyone install boost gauges? If so what type and where did you install them?

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Originally Posted by VAVetteC7
I'm kinda of on the fence about meth, I get what the benefits are, I'm just not sure I want to be worried about making sure I have enough with me for my travels. If I used meth to get more horse power I would still need to raise boost, correct? If I increased boost more then say 7 to 8 psi wouldn't it increase my risk for a potential piston failure?

Piston failure they say around over 750whp then worry and meth u don't have to raise boost for it it always makes the car run more safe in case of piston failure from what i herd

And im with you on the meth part I don't like the idea to always have it in my tank and bein worried when I need more to Travel
But u will see anywhere from 550whp to 580whp with a good tune wit ur setup without headers .
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Originally Posted by Seannyc
Piston failure they say around over 750whp then worry and meth u don't have to raise boost for it it always makes the car run more safe in case of piston failure from what i herd

And im with you on the meth part I don't like the idea to always have it in my tank and bein worried when I need more to Travel
But u will see anywhere from 550whp to 580whp with a good tune wit ur setup without headers .
Tossed those questions out to my tuner, want to see what he has to say. I'm looking for a solid 600 whp, if headers will get me their without meth, that would be the route I choose.
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Originally Posted by VAVetteC7
Tossed those questions out to my tuner, want to see what he has to say. I'm looking for a solid 600 whp, if headers will get me their without meth, that would be the route I choose.
600 rwhp is what all of the big tuners in this forum say is the safe limit without meth. Keep that in mind. I am pushing 575 rwhp and I wouldn't go any further without meth.
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Originally Posted by VAVetteC7
I was wondering if headers would make a difference, most of the info I have read said the stock exhaust flows extremely well up to 700 rwhp. So I didn't think headers would do much for me, at least for the cost anyway.
I think people are crazy running stock cats with boost.

I have seen so many OEM cat failures from people running boost with them over the years.
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I think you will like the added HP with the A&A unit. Headers will compliment your HP needs as well as add a sexy exhaust note. Are you planning to stay under 8 pounds of boost?

We totally went to the extreme right end of the spectrum on our 2014 Z51 build: ECS 2200 head unit @ 21+ psi, headers, exhaust, fully forged engine, pistons, cam, head work, dual meth injected, stall converter, etc.. the result for us is 1182 rwhp. It's a moderately high maintenance setup but wow it's a hoot to drive. Sticking to a simple setup should net you close to 600 rwhp. Any reputable shop should be able to help you achieve your goals.
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Originally Posted by VAVetteC7
Tossed those questions out to my tuner, want to see what he has to say. I'm looking for a solid 600 whp, if headers will get me their without meth, that would be the route I choose.
I am on the same route also for the 600whp... I'm installing the LT4 blower Shop said with a cold air intake I'll be 600whp easy with just Blower he said around 570 to 590whp without intake

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Originally Posted by MikeLsx
I think people are crazy running stock cats with boost.

I have seen so many OEM cat failures from people running boost with them over the years.
The Z06 has cats, right?
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
The Z06 has cats, right?
Ya know i wouldn't make these claims if i didn't have any reasoning behind it.

Like your C7, I had my built engine in my LS3 camaro back a few years. I followed the LS forums, and was a pretty active member on camaro5 forum.

People who ran boost with aftermarket cats or OEM cats ran into problems often.

Know to your statement, cars setup from factory to run boost have different cats a lot of the time. This is what "we" found out on the other forums when comparing the Zl1 camaro to the SS.

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Originally Posted by MikeLsx
Ya know i wouldn't make these claims if i didn't have any reasoning behind it.

Like your C7, I had my built engine in my LS3 camaro back a few years. I followed the LS forums, and was a pretty active member on camaro5 forum.

People who ran boost with aftermarket cats or OEM cats ran into problems often.

Know to your statement, cars setup from factory to run boost have different cats a lot of the time. This is what "we" found out on the other forums when comparing the Zl1 camaro to the SS.
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