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Old 08-26-2016, 06:33 PM
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I went to take my '85 out of the garage and the battery was dead. By this I mean completely dead as if I left something on. Completely and totally dead. No lights, no clicks, no nothing. In the past, with other cars, I've left the lights on or left the key on in a back up car and left the radio on (I know). This isn't the case here. Is there anything else that might be left on that would drain the battery so completely?
Old 08-26-2016, 07:16 PM
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Disconnect the battery and bring it to a full charge. Then hook it up and see what is shining.
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🤔 Already have it charged up. I didn't notice anything. Thought there might be something that commonly did this.
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Originally Posted by BigRed85
🤔 Already have it charged up. I didn't notice anything. Thought there might be something that commonly did this.
There are a lot of good folks in here. But do not believe we can guess what you are going to do. might take it in and get a load test. Might just be saying goodbye.

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Old 08-26-2016, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRed85
🤔 Already have it charged up. I didn't notice anything. Thought there might be something that commonly did this.

What you need is an amp meter to check for current drain..Your looking for a max of about 0.3 amps with everything off
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Originally Posted by Sid.123
What you need is an amp meter to check for current drain..Your looking for a max of about 0.3 amps with everything off
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
Old 08-26-2016, 08:25 PM
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How old is your battery?

Bringing your battery it to a full charge and then load testing it will tell you if your battery is still good.
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Originally Posted by CA1992C4
How old is your battery?

Bringing your battery it to a full charge and then load testing it will tell you if your battery is still good.
It's about six weeks old.
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Originally Posted by BigRed85
It's about six weeks old.
If it does it again take it for a load test. They can be bad new but is under warranty.
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Originally Posted by BigRed85
It's about six weeks old.
The battery could be bad, but I'd put money on you left a light on somewhere.
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How long had it sat?
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Originally Posted by RICHARD TILL
How long had it sat?
Three days
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Originally Posted by CA1992C4
The battery could be bad, but I'd put money on you left a light on somewhere.
That's what I'm hoping
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Check it again tomorrow morning. if all is well something most likely left on.

If dead again, don't rule out a bad alternator diode.
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Originally Posted by divotdug

If dead again, don't rule out a bad alternator diode.
Agree....this was my '85's problem (years ago). Drains a fully charged battery fast.
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Originally Posted by 3798j
Agree....this was my '85's problem (years ago). Drains a fully charged battery fast.
This should show up in a current draw test I would think and will keep in mind as one of the easiest checks right off the bat.

I am a bit curious about how long the car can sit without use with a 0.3 amp draw and did some calcs with .3 ampsX24 hoursX30 days and came up with 216 amp hours and assuming a quite dead battery at that point.
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The car started this morning. It had not been started in three days when the battery was dead, but was okay after one day at least. I didn't find anything that might have been left on. I'll just continue to monitor.
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Originally Posted by BigRed85
The car started this morning. It had not been started in three days when the battery was dead, but was okay after one day at least. I didn't find anything that might have been left on. I'll just continue to monitor.
I have been playing the same game for the past 6 months and have not driven the car as have no faith it will get me home until sorted out. Tomorrow will get some new battery bolts and a new DVM as have lost faith in mine on the voltage scale. It is 15 years old and served me well at a zillion race tracks and dyno sessions. I am guessing the selector switches just corroded and wore out. I charged the batter for 3 hours at 15 amps and 2 hours at 2 amps and the charge light never came on green for charged on the 2 amp scale. I did have the battery hooked up and while working in the shop will charge again at 2 amps battery disconnected until green charged light comes on and test from there. I do have faith in the amp scale in the meter I have as does not hunt or read silly numbers. I did do a quick draw test and got .5A at first for 4 or 5 seconds then settled at 0.015 to 0.02A so 15 to 20 ma. and should easily stay good enough to start in 2 months, 1 at least I would think. After fully charged with battery disconnected will check self discharge rate by leaving disconnected and read voltage at the battery to see how fast it goes down no load. If it loses 1 volt a week will never make it to 8 weeks. I would think at that point the battery is NG.

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