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Old 10-17-2016, 12:13 AM
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Weight savings! I found some weights recorded for the CCB disc's vs steel brakes. This is from a C6 but should be fairly close.

All 4 CCB disc's are -28 pounds lighter but the 4 calipers add back +10.80 to the number for -17.2. vs steel

To compare the Michelin PSS non runflats in 325/275 weight 24 pounds less than the stock MPSS ZP's. Then with ZR1/C7 grand sport wheels. You save another 10 pounds so 34 pounds off the top.

The -34 pounds can be felt as the car drives seemly lighter feel.

Then my recent headers also reduced weight! Not sure yet how much need to weight the stock stuff that came off.

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rip out the never used passenger seat.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
Weight savings! I found some weights recorded for the CCB disc's vs steel brakes. This is from a C6 but should be fairly close.

All 4 CCB disc's are -28 pounds lighter but the 4 calipers add back +10.80 to the number for -17.2. vs steel

To compare the Michelin PSS non runflats in 325/275 weight 24 pounds less than the stock MPSS ZP's. Then with ZR1/C7 grand sport wheels. You save another 10 pounds so 34 pounds off the top.

The -34 pounds can be felt as the car drives seemly lighter feel.

Then my recent headers also reduced weight! Not sure yet how much need to weight the stock stuff that came off.
Rotational mass in the rotors are certainly more worth while than on the gains in caliper weight. Lighter rotational mass in rotors and tires improves acceleration and deceleration
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WOW! -34lbs. of "rotating weight" less than stock (wheels & tires) "should" drop ETs & increase mph noticeably.

If all 4 CCB disc's/rotors (rotating weight) weigh 28 lbs. less than the standard steel rotors than I give that two for additional performance.

Waiting to see some real track results!!

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Originally Posted by rob62
rip out the never used passenger seat.
This is amazing.
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You can save 34 lbs by going to a lithium battery, around $300.
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Originally Posted by juanvaldez
You can save 34 lbs by going to a lithium battery, around $300.
Post up info or a link.
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Originally Posted by juanvaldez
You can save 34 lbs by going to a lithium battery, around $300.
Big different between rotational mass/unsprung weight vs sprung/dead weight.
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Originally Posted by C7/Z06 Man
Post up info or a link.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...m-battery.html
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Originally Posted by Deity.Motorsports
Big different between rotational mass/unsprung weight vs sprung/dead weight.
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Pretty sure the AP Racing thread has exact weights for stock iron, ccb, and their setup.
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I presume everyone in this thread has a healthy BMI, no?
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Just remove the brakes completely if you're drag racing. Pull the chute and drag a foot out the drivers door. Done.
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Originally Posted by spearfish25
Just remove the brakes completely if you're drag racing. Pull the chute and drag a foot out the drivers door. Done.
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Originally Posted by phantasms
I presume everyone in this thread has a healthy BMI, no?
And this is wishful thinking.
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Originally Posted by phantasms
I presume everyone in this thread has a healthy BMI, no?
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Originally Posted by C7/Z06 Man
WOW! -34lbs. of "rotating weight" less than stock (wheels & tires) "should" drop ETs & increase mph noticeably.

If all 4 CCB disc's/rotors (rotating weight) weigh 28 lbs. less than the standard steel rotors than I give that two for additional performance.

Waiting to see some real track results!!
That is the true question. Do some of these costly weight reductions translate to better times at the track? What is the biggest bang for your buck. Is a less than 1% reduction in weight significant? Can it be felt in the SOTP? Same with HP gains. How much do you need to gain to actually perceive it?

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Originally Posted by AZGASSER
That is the true question. Do some of these costly weight reductions translate to better times at the track? What is the biggest bang for your buck. Is a less than 1% reduction in weight significant? Can it be felt in the SOTP? Same with HP gains. How much do you need to gain to actually perceive it?
Well according to Rays Engineering, F1 wheel supplier, 1 KG reduction of rotational mass (depending on how far out of the rotation, ala barrel or tire) is worth up to 15kg of weight reduction in unsprung mass.
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So using the curb weight of a factory C7Z, 3524#, the drop of 34# via a different battery brings the new weight to 3490#. For apples to apples comparison, lets keep the HP factory, 650HP. That gives the stock 5.42#/HP and the new battery 5.37#/HP. The real question then is, how much HP do I need to add to the stock Z to get the same affect as a 34# weight reduction. A surprising 6HP! I highly doubt your SOTP meter could detect a 6HP difference on the Z.
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Unsprung weight reacts differently in a car's handling. I saved ~38lbs (tires/wheels) and could definitely feel it in how the suspension responded in a track. But 0-60 you're exactly right. No noticeable difference in acceleration.


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