Broadening the ZR Registry Universe
12-07-2016, 08:41 AM
#1
Le Mans Master
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Broadening the ZR Registry Universe
There is a discussion on the Registry regarding broadening of its scope.
If you own a ZR, I encourage u to put in your $.02. That includes if u own both ZR-1 and ZR1.
If you own a ZR, I encourage u to put in your $.02. That includes if u own both ZR-1 and ZR1.
12-07-2016, 11:59 AM
#2
Safety Car
On one hand, the C6 ZR1 is even more rare than the C4 version...
on the other hand, not much in common to talk about ,trade parts, or share technical solutions. My feeling is to keep the forum completely separate. If I ever got a C6-ZR, surely I'd have to sell my C4 to get one.
on the other hand, not much in common to talk about ,trade parts, or share technical solutions. My feeling is to keep the forum completely separate. If I ever got a C6-ZR, surely I'd have to sell my C4 to get one.
12-07-2016, 03:33 PM
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12-07-2016, 08:57 PM
#5
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Other than the "Corvette", the "Z" and crazy devotion, there is nothing in common between the platforms. Tech, for sale, general comments are not interchangeable.
The only way to make it work is to segment topics and discussions it between the groups.
I'm sure that if there were a car meet-up there would be only happy car guy talk and genuine appreciation of the cars. I'm afraid the boards will have a focus factor that will be tough to overcome.
12-08-2016, 12:23 AM
#6
I just think it would dilute the product. It opens a door that can't be closed. What's special about this club is that it is unique to one car. We all share the same issues with very little variance between models.
Instead of spending this effort on expanding our universe we should be trying to conquer the universe we're already in. We should be doing everything we can to reach out to all C4 ZR-1 owners that are not members and showing them what they are missing instead of trying to expand and add members that have absolutely nothing in common with us except for a badge on their fender. There's nothing stopping us from doing joint events with a C6 ZR1 club. But let's not have one club.
This isn't a car club. It's a ZR-1 club. My vote would be no.
Instead of spending this effort on expanding our universe we should be trying to conquer the universe we're already in. We should be doing everything we can to reach out to all C4 ZR-1 owners that are not members and showing them what they are missing instead of trying to expand and add members that have absolutely nothing in common with us except for a badge on their fender. There's nothing stopping us from doing joint events with a C6 ZR1 club. But let's not have one club.
This isn't a car club. It's a ZR-1 club. My vote would be no.
12-08-2016, 11:30 AM
#7
I just think it would dilute the product. It opens a door that can't be closed. What's special about this club is that it is unique to one car. We all share the same issues with very little variance between models.
Instead of spending this effort on expanding our universe we should be trying to conquer the universe we're already in. We should be doing everything we can to reach out to all C4 ZR-1 owners that are not members and showing them what they are missing instead of trying to expand and add members that have absolutely nothing in common with us except for a badge on their fender. There's nothing stopping us from doing joint events with a C6 ZR1 club. But let's not have one club.
This isn't a car club. It's a ZR-1 club. My vote would be no.
Instead of spending this effort on expanding our universe we should be trying to conquer the universe we're already in. We should be doing everything we can to reach out to all C4 ZR-1 owners that are not members and showing them what they are missing instead of trying to expand and add members that have absolutely nothing in common with us except for a badge on their fender. There's nothing stopping us from doing joint events with a C6 ZR1 club. But let's not have one club.
This isn't a car club. It's a ZR-1 club. My vote would be no.
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I didn't get the "u" and ""ur" in a solicitation to wander over there for a comment! - the poster uses "u" and "ur" then goes back to a "your" occasionally. It's just damned tacky ..... not a particularly professional "invite".
Last edited by WVZR-1; 12-08-2016 at 11:31 AM.
12-08-2016, 05:27 PM
#8
Le Mans Master
there are 3 generations of the ZR1, soon to be 4
One big issue is that it's not really feasible to stock the ZR1 merchandise for each different type of car. And the gearhead tech doesn't really apply because the cars are radically different and worlds apart in technology.
On the flip side, if someone wants to join the club we welcome them with open arms as at the end of the day we are all enthusiasts and if they would like to hang with us come on over!
It's really too hard to cover the full scope of information on each of the cars so it's more realistic to focus on the LT5 cars and not try to cater to the specifics of multiple generations. And it's not going to be too interesting if all the discussion is focused solely on the c4 ZR1 for the other guys unless they want to get into the c4 ZR1 platform or own c4 & 6 ZR1s as do some of the owners.
I own a c3, a c4 LPE ZR1, and a C5 TT Z06 Very different cars yet super fun in their own way. To try and cater to all years, we become more of a "general corvette club" rather than a ZR1 club.
On the plus side, the strength in numbers pays dividends at events, as well as hearing about both older and new generation cars.
We're gonna stick an LT5 in a C3 and confuse everyone (1st ZR1 restomod target)
I personally love all generations and marques of cars so I would welcome anyone interested in the corvette and meeting new folks and getting more members is a good thing to me. As long as they don't expect "catering" to the specifics of each marque it could indeed work if folks are in favor.
food for thought, no dog in this fight, I'm a automotive enthusiast not just a corvette guy, and certainly all corvettes and cars are of interest to me.
One big issue is that it's not really feasible to stock the ZR1 merchandise for each different type of car. And the gearhead tech doesn't really apply because the cars are radically different and worlds apart in technology.
On the flip side, if someone wants to join the club we welcome them with open arms as at the end of the day we are all enthusiasts and if they would like to hang with us come on over!
It's really too hard to cover the full scope of information on each of the cars so it's more realistic to focus on the LT5 cars and not try to cater to the specifics of multiple generations. And it's not going to be too interesting if all the discussion is focused solely on the c4 ZR1 for the other guys unless they want to get into the c4 ZR1 platform or own c4 & 6 ZR1s as do some of the owners.
I own a c3, a c4 LPE ZR1, and a C5 TT Z06 Very different cars yet super fun in their own way. To try and cater to all years, we become more of a "general corvette club" rather than a ZR1 club.
On the plus side, the strength in numbers pays dividends at events, as well as hearing about both older and new generation cars.
We're gonna stick an LT5 in a C3 and confuse everyone (1st ZR1 restomod target)
I personally love all generations and marques of cars so I would welcome anyone interested in the corvette and meeting new folks and getting more members is a good thing to me. As long as they don't expect "catering" to the specifics of each marque it could indeed work if folks are in favor.
food for thought, no dog in this fight, I'm a automotive enthusiast not just a corvette guy, and certainly all corvettes and cars are of interest to me.
Last edited by Rkreigh; 12-08-2016 at 05:32 PM.
12-08-2016, 07:15 PM
#10
Oh, wait...that was a midyear not a C3.
Anyway. Back to our regularly scheduled programing...
Last edited by Fully Vetted; 12-08-2016 at 07:16 PM.
12-09-2016, 08:12 AM
#11
Pro
I owned both for several years. Loved my 2010 JSB ZR1 but sold it last year. It was a bona fide track star! My '91 ZR-1 is another animal, but the DOHC platform makes it unique in the Corvette lineage. I don't think there would be any issue opening up to all ZR's. Rarified air with C3, C4 and C6 ZR's. Would be cool to have a single forum dedicated to the pinnacle of the Corvette line. My $.02..
12-09-2016, 03:09 PM
#12
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Ron,
No one has any dogs in this fight. It's an attempt by the Registry to discuss whether IT is the proper place for ALL ZR Corvette owners to congregate and share the experience of owning the car that is
"Corvette, only more so!"
No one has any dogs in this fight. It's an attempt by the Registry to discuss whether IT is the proper place for ALL ZR Corvette owners to congregate and share the experience of owning the car that is
"Corvette, only more so!"
12-09-2016, 04:41 PM
#13
Melting Slicks
12-10-2016, 02:11 AM
#15
I owned both for several years. Loved my 2010 JSB ZR1 but sold it last year. It was a bona fide track star! My '91 ZR-1 is another animal, but the DOHC platform makes it unique in the Corvette lineage. I don't think there would be any issue opening up to all ZR's. Rarified air with C3, C4 and C6 ZR's. Would be cool to have a single forum dedicated to the pinnacle of the Corvette line. My $.02..
C1 - Arguable as to which year, but it would be a fuelie
C2 - L88 - although so rare (and valuable) that you'd likely never see one anyway. This would leave the L71 or L71/L89 (67 435HP) or L72 (66 425/450HP) as the standardbearers. There is also an argument here for the Grand Sports (probably the most valuable of all Corvettes, but there were only 5 made)
C3 - The ZL1, L88, LS6, and L71 or L71/L89 vehicles are of significantly higher performance than the C3 ZR-1
C5 - Z06 for sure
C7 - Again the Z06
12-10-2016, 12:40 PM
#16
12-10-2016, 02:54 PM
#17
Le Mans Master
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If you are talking about the pinnacle of the Corvette line, ZR-1 (or ZR1 as the case may be) would not be the pinnacle for the C1, C2, C3, C5 or C7 generations.
C1 - Arguable as to which year, but it would be a fuelie
C2 - L88 - although so rare (and valuable) that you'd likely never see one anyway. This would leave the L71 or L71/L89 (67 435HP) or L72 (66 425/450HP) as the standardbearers. There is also an argument here for the Grand Sports (probably the most valuable of all Corvettes, but there were only 5 made)
C3 - The ZL1, L88, LS6, and L71 or L71/L89 vehicles are of significantly higher performance than the C3 ZR-1
C5 - Z06 for sure
C7 - Again the Z06
C1 - Arguable as to which year, but it would be a fuelie
C2 - L88 - although so rare (and valuable) that you'd likely never see one anyway. This would leave the L71 or L71/L89 (67 435HP) or L72 (66 425/450HP) as the standardbearers. There is also an argument here for the Grand Sports (probably the most valuable of all Corvettes, but there were only 5 made)
C3 - The ZL1, L88, LS6, and L71 or L71/L89 vehicles are of significantly higher performance than the C3 ZR-1
C5 - Z06 for sure
C7 - Again the Z06
We are using what GM is defining as the pinnacle of Corvette. Others may have a different opinion, but the
ZR Corvettes are the ones GM identifies as their halo car.
12-10-2016, 04:55 PM
#18
Pro
12-10-2016, 10:58 PM
#19
My point is that the "ZR" series not only wasn't always "the" halo car because it wasn't available; even when offered in the C3, it was well less than the other options out there. The ZR-1 in the C3 is not even in the same league as a ZL-1. So is it the idea to have all the halo cars in the same club? Or only the ZR cars which were halo cars for some generations, not for other generations, and sometimes not even an option?
12-10-2016, 11:28 PM
#20
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
The ZR-1 Registry is currently devoted to maintaining the legend of the
C4 ZR Corvette. The KOTH. GM has produced and it appears they will continue to produce other ZR Corvettes for subsequent generations such as the C6 and what is apparently for the C7 Gen. The proposal is that the ZR-1 Registry broadens its scope to include those ZR nameplate Corvettes as well. One home for all ZR Corvettes. Not Z06, not ZL-1, not L anything,
not GS.
C4 ZR Corvette. The KOTH. GM has produced and it appears they will continue to produce other ZR Corvettes for subsequent generations such as the C6 and what is apparently for the C7 Gen. The proposal is that the ZR-1 Registry broadens its scope to include those ZR nameplate Corvettes as well. One home for all ZR Corvettes. Not Z06, not ZL-1, not L anything,
not GS.