tlippy

Anyone have Experience with Michelin's new Pilot Sport A/S tire? What I like is the UTOG 500 for this new tire.

Foosh

I assume you're talking about the new Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+ tire. The one you refer to above is an older version.

I have two sets of wheels and tires, and use the OEM PSS ZP in summer, and recently installed the AS3+ for light winter use.

It is the #1 rated ultra-high-performance all season tire according to Tire Rack. I just put a set on, and they are excellent in all regards. They are a must if you're going to drive the C7 on cold pavements temps, offering excellent wet and dry grip.

On hot pavement, the OEM PSS ZPs offer superior grip, but below about 60F the AS3+ is far superior. Most people will never outdrive what the AS3+ offers in terms of grip even in summer conditions. They provide an excellent, quiet ride as well.

kenownr

ali1951

What kinds of wheels are you using for your second set?

Foosh

I bought a 2nd set of OEM Z51 wheels from House of Wheels, a forum vendor.

Greenkirby21

Would you recommend the AS3+ over the PSS for a daily driver? I live in Texas and just hit 20k miles where my PSS need replacement. While it rarely snows here (if it does, I stay home), it does get below "40" quite frequently, which I think is recommended against the PSS.

That being said, I never really faced any issues from the PSS in the cold since I know its limits, and it dips below 20 degrees maybe 1 week total.

Granted, when it gets hot, its 105 in the summer !

My previous BMW had PSS too I believe, and didn't have any problems either, but all the threads about tires cracking got me worried.

Foosh

That's really a personal decision.

You can drive the car much more confidently below 60F on the AS3+ because the limits are much higher than the PSS at those temps. Before I put the AS on my car a few weeks ago, I was fine on the PSS as well, but I was also sliding around a lot . . . no problem, even a little fun, but definitely limited traction. You also have to worry not just about acceleration but also cornering and stopping with limited traction.

As I also said above, most people won't exceed the limits of the AS3+ even in hot weather. The AS3+ would be a fine year-round tire for 90+% in street use, but I will put the PSS back on my car for summer, just because I have them and can. There is no question that they are better tires for hot weather use, but that's generally at illegal limits on the street.

767guy

quieter- softer ride- no scrubbing in slow speed wheel lock turns-no cold weather temperature restrictions- not as stickey as OEM'S and don't throw nearly as much gravel-dealer said he expects I'll get a lot more mileage out of the A/S 3+ than I did out of the OEM's. Love 'em.

Foosh

As a little added info, I ran a couple of before and after acceleration tests on the day I swapped my PSS the new AS3+. The temp was 50F in mid-November.

Without getting into the details, it was ridiculously easy to spin the rears on PSS in 2-3 gears w/ less than full throttle. An hour later on the AS3+, it was much more difficult, and they were totally stuck in 3rd at full throttle. That was on brand new tires, which weren't even broken in.

buckeye4

I am doing the exact same thing. Just waiting for the wheels to arrive to mount my new Pilot A/S 3+ tires. Bob (House of Wheels) was great to deal with. Placed the order on a Sunday.

Dif

I'm partial to Michelin tires and plan to replace my Michelin PSS tires next Fall with Michelin A/S 3+ ZP tires.
Then I'll run them year round until it Snows.
I agree with Foosh, for an A/S tire, they're probably the closest in performance to an all Summer tire for the street even in hot weather.
For now, my C7 spare cold weather wheels are mounted with the old style Original Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ZP tires.
Great tire with predictable all weather Performance and ran them year round on my C6.
Looking forward to the Improved Michelin A/S 3+

ZenicaPA

Are the Michelin A/S 3 tires discontinued in our sizes? The dealer can't source them, neither can Costco, the Tire Rack or a local tire shop.

buckeye4

Not sure which "our size" tires you need, but my Costco lists the Z51 size for sale. The Michelin A/S 3+.

Foosh

He's talking about GS and Z06 sizes, and the the PS AS3+ is not yet available in those OEM sizes. However, Michelin has claimed they will be eventually.

NavyBlue2

What's the price difference?

Are those AS3+ run flats?

Thanks,

Foosh

The AS3+ is available in base and Z51 sizes in both runflat and std. versions. Based on Tire Rack prices, a Z51 runflat set will cost around $1300, and the std. version approximately $1100. A new set of OEM PSS runflats is currently priced about $1400.

NavyBlue2

Yes, Discount Tires store quoted me $1400 ($1600 after taxes & mounting) for OEM PSS run-flat.

Now debating whether to stick with OEM or for the very slight lower prices of the others.

Wonder how the ride difference between AS3+ run-flat vs non run-flats...

Foosh

I have no basis for comparison between the AS3+ ZP vs. std. version, but I bought a set of the standard, non-runflats. I can say the ride on the AS3+ non-runflats is quieter and smoother than the OEM PSS ZP.

Generally speaking, the ride is a little softer and quieter on non-runflats because of the thicker sidewalls on ZP tires. It used to be a big difference, but ZP tire technology keeps getting better and better, such that the differences are less apparent.

Boozman

I just purchased a set of Z51 machine wheels to put the 3+ on and I'll keep the original 18/19 with the summer tires. We like to run the mountain Roads in Tn, NC and Va along with the Blue Ridge Pky in the winter months so this mix will work great for us.

brochild

After reading this thread, I think I'm ready to make a purchase (based on pricing)
I live in Vegas, and soon to be e-located to Redmond Washington.
I will use my 2015 Stingray as a daily driver, right now I only own one car.
The winter in Redmond, I'm told is mild, and it snows here and there, but nothing crazy.

At first I was thinking about the Michelin Pilot Alpine PA4 for the winter.
I noticed the Michelin Pilot Sports A/S 3+ got lots of favorable rating on this thread, and folks are using it all year round, and are happy.
So I think I will go with the A/S 3+ for the winter - Its on sale at Tire Rack for $898.80 for all 4 tires.
The run flat version is going for $1124.40, and the Pilot Alpine AP4 is going for $1059.80

My question is, is it worth it to save $169.90 to get the A/S 3+ (for the winter only)instead of the Alpine AP4?
I really value the opinions of this forum, so please help me decide.