Do you guys notice any delay in A8, in particular sport / track mode? I don't.
#1
Do you guys notice any delay in A8, in particular sport / track mode? I don't.
I have noticed that among various professional reviews. Most say that the A8 is as fast and reactive as the PDK, DCTs. Some say there is a delay along with some individuals. Also some individuals like me notice that without paddle shifters shifts are lightening quick, seamless, wow. Even with using paddle shifters in particular in sport / track, I notice no delay. Super fast and instantaeous. Why the variation among people? Ger.
#2
Melting Slicks
I have noticed that among various professional reviews. Most say that the A8 is as fast and reactive as the PDK, DCTs. Some say there is a delay along with some individuals. Also some individuals like me notice that without paddle shifters shifts are lightening quick, seamless, wow. Even with using paddle shifters in particular in sport / track, I notice no delay. Super fast and instantaeous. Why the variation among people? Ger.
Now on the street in normal driving shifts are smooth and virtually unnoticeable. I have not had a problem with the A8 and my prior 15 Vette was also a A8
Last edited by BRCC; 12-08-2016 at 09:08 AM.
#3
Pro
So I purchased a 16' Z51, I have never drove the car in automatic mode only in paddle shifters. The few times my wife drove in automatic mode the shifts were smooth with no issues. I usually drive in track mode all the time "THE ONLY MODE". I only see issues when you are babying the car in manual mode. If you are driving normal applying gas like you should in a sports car the shifts are on point. I thought I would hate the auto with paddle shifters, but being in Hawaii and the traffic I enjoy it a lot. I still love my manuals so I drive my 96 Honda accord to bang out some gears lol.
#4
Melting Slicks
No problem with my 17 GS. Shifts fasts. I don't notice delay in auto or manual. Maybe its because slow and fast are relative to what each individual expects to happen when they push a button. Or maybe some A8s have a problem and others don't.
#6
And it's not about upshifts, it's the downshift that every person that can actually drive complains about.
You pull the trigger for a downshift you want RIGHT NOW, and it thinks about it for a while and then shifts.
And no, I'm not talking about a shift that would cause an overrev. It's just that downshifts take noticeably longer.. Unlike a DCT or a or real manual. (and yes a DCT is a manual, oh never mind...lol)
That's why I didn't get the A8... If they could have figured out a real DCT, I'd have been all over it.
You pull the trigger for a downshift you want RIGHT NOW, and it thinks about it for a while and then shifts.
And no, I'm not talking about a shift that would cause an overrev. It's just that downshifts take noticeably longer.. Unlike a DCT or a or real manual. (and yes a DCT is a manual, oh never mind...lol)
That's why I didn't get the A8... If they could have figured out a real DCT, I'd have been all over it.
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4GS7 (12-09-2016)
#7
And it's not about upshifts, it's the downshift that every person that can actually drive complains about.
You pull the trigger for a downshift you want RIGHT NOW, and it thinks about it for a while and then shifts.
And no, I'm not talking about a shift that would cause an overrev. It's just that downshifts take noticeably longer.. Unlike a DCT or a or real manual. (and yes a DCT is a manual, oh never mind...lol)
That's why I didn't get the A8... If they could have figured out a real DCT, I'd have been all over it.
You pull the trigger for a downshift you want RIGHT NOW, and it thinks about it for a while and then shifts.
And no, I'm not talking about a shift that would cause an overrev. It's just that downshifts take noticeably longer.. Unlike a DCT or a or real manual. (and yes a DCT is a manual, oh never mind...lol)
That's why I didn't get the A8... If they could have figured out a real DCT, I'd have been all over it.
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#10
Le Mans Master
You can, but don't expect it to be as good as cars dct that cost twice as much. Then people would complain a base vette costs too much. I'd say if you use the paddles to shift your own gears it still shifts faster than most people can shift manually.
#11
Safety Car
My experience with my '16 A8 base coupe: When accelerating in Sport or Track using both DRIVE and MANUAL modes there is a 200 RPM delay between when I click the paddle and when the shift occurs if shifting with the paddles below 4,000 RPM.
Lag time begins to get reduced and it is quicker shifting at 3,500 RPM. Any perceptible delay is completely gone at 4K+ RPM.
Lag time begins to get reduced and it is quicker shifting at 3,500 RPM. Any perceptible delay is completely gone at 4K+ RPM.
#12
Melting Slicks
And it's not about upshifts, it's the downshift that every person that can actually drive complains about.
You pull the trigger for a downshift you want RIGHT NOW, and it thinks about it for a while and then shifts.
And no, I'm not talking about a shift that would cause an overrev. It's just that downshifts take noticeably longer.. Unlike a DCT or a or real manual. (and yes a DCT is a manual, oh never mind...lol)
That's why I didn't get the A8... If they could have figured out a real DCT, I'd have been all over it.
You pull the trigger for a downshift you want RIGHT NOW, and it thinks about it for a while and then shifts.
And no, I'm not talking about a shift that would cause an overrev. It's just that downshifts take noticeably longer.. Unlike a DCT or a or real manual. (and yes a DCT is a manual, oh never mind...lol)
That's why I didn't get the A8... If they could have figured out a real DCT, I'd have been all over it.
Last edited by djnice; 12-09-2016 at 03:14 PM.
#13
I drive my 2015 Z51 A8 mostly on the track (HPDE). I always use the paddle shifters. I want total control of when up and down shifts happen. In MHO in a track environment any miliseconds of time in the speed of up and down shifting is unimportant. I have ridden with top drivers in cars such as a P GT3 and F 488. They rely on their cars DCT transmissions, but sometimes override them.
It has been my experience that when working my way through traffic on the track paddle shifting gives me the control I need. On practice days I have let the transmission shift - Track Mode - and find the times are marginally slower. Your experience may vary...
It has been my experience that when working my way through traffic on the track paddle shifting gives me the control I need. On practice days I have let the transmission shift - Track Mode - and find the times are marginally slower. Your experience may vary...
#14
Safety Car
I didn't get the complaints about shift delay from the paddles at all. Now all my Vettes have been manuals and my current C4 is a ZF6. So I went from manuals to the A8. I love it and never have noticed a delay.
Given all the whining about paddle shifting delay yesterday I actually concentrated on when I pulled the paddle and noted when the shift occurred. This was 40 miles of street driving on boulevards with 55 mph speed limits and lights every mile or so. I did, with that level of exteme concentration, notice (in T mode) about a second delay between when the paddle commanded a shift and when it shifted. Why had I never noticed this before?? Easy, it is the way I learned the A8 and simply took that delay and made a subconscious decision to command my shifts a second early. So to me there "was no" delay. But I had easily mentally adapted my driving style to meet the A8s capabilities. After noting that there is in fact a delay I can see how someone with many many miles of DCT experience (if they in fact have no delay and I don't know that for a fact) could be disappointed that the A8 has a short delay.
To that kind of person, I would say, "adapt your driving style to adjust for the capabilities of the car you own." Or I would say, "trade your car in for an Audi, or whatever, and get something you are happy with." The final thing I would say is, "Quit whining about the paddle shift delay, it is annoying to those of us that know how to drive the car."
In any case enjoy your C7 it is a great car and if you don't think so, well there are other cars out there you might like. Go get one.
Given all the whining about paddle shifting delay yesterday I actually concentrated on when I pulled the paddle and noted when the shift occurred. This was 40 miles of street driving on boulevards with 55 mph speed limits and lights every mile or so. I did, with that level of exteme concentration, notice (in T mode) about a second delay between when the paddle commanded a shift and when it shifted. Why had I never noticed this before?? Easy, it is the way I learned the A8 and simply took that delay and made a subconscious decision to command my shifts a second early. So to me there "was no" delay. But I had easily mentally adapted my driving style to meet the A8s capabilities. After noting that there is in fact a delay I can see how someone with many many miles of DCT experience (if they in fact have no delay and I don't know that for a fact) could be disappointed that the A8 has a short delay.
To that kind of person, I would say, "adapt your driving style to adjust for the capabilities of the car you own." Or I would say, "trade your car in for an Audi, or whatever, and get something you are happy with." The final thing I would say is, "Quit whining about the paddle shift delay, it is annoying to those of us that know how to drive the car."
In any case enjoy your C7 it is a great car and if you don't think so, well there are other cars out there you might like. Go get one.