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Old 01-16-2017, 12:51 PM
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C7 Corvette Frame Spotted At GM Battery Lab Fuels Hybridization Rumors

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C7 Corvette Frame Spotted At GM Battery Lab Fuels Hybridization Rumors
- by Sean Szymkowski, Jan 16, 2017

General Motors may not have hidden everything out of plain sight during a recent tour of its 85,000 square-foot battery lab in Warren, Michigan.

During the standard-issue tour, Car Advice spotted something peculiar: a C7 Corvette‘s frame sitting within the lab. According to the report, no other non-hybrid vehicles were seen in the facility. The body shell was stamped with the correct coding, too, “Y1BC”, which is indeed a C7 Corvette’s bones.

Obviously, this lends itself to the idea of a hybrid Corvette in the future. GM also moved to trademark the “Corvette E-Ray” and “E-Ray” names in 2015, leading to speculation over a hybrid-powered Corvette in the future.

However, most of the hybrid speculation has been saved for the C8 Corvette, which has been pegged as a mid-engine successor to the C7 Corvette. It’s been thought the upcoming 2018 C7 Corvette ZR1 would serve as the swan song for a front-engine, rear-wheel drive Corvette before the icon makes the switch to a mid-engine configuration.

But, maybe the Corvette team has a surprise up its sleeve before the C7 is whisked off. Only time will tell.
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That's it a hybrid 650hp gas engine with a 500hp electric motor all wheel drive hybrid C7. Sub 3 second 0-60 mph with a sub 10 sec quarter mile..
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A C7 Corvette Frame Spotted At GM Battery Lab Fuels Hybridization Rumors.
Source: GM Authority (January 16, 2017)

General Motors may not have hidden everything out of plain sight during a recent tour of its 85,000 square-foot battery lab in Warren, Michigan.
During the standard-issue tour, Car Advice spotted something peculiar: a C7 Corvette‘s frame sitting within the lab. According to the report, no other non-hybrid vehicles were seen in the facility. The body shell was stamped with the correct coding, too, “Y1BC”, which is indeed a C7 Corvette’s bones.
Obviously, this lends itself to the idea of a hybrid Corvette in the future. GM also moved to trademark the “Corvette E-Ray” and “E-Ray” names in 2015, leading to speculation over a hybrid-powered Corvette in the future.
However, most of the hybrid speculation has been saved for the C8 Corvette, which has been pegged as a mid-engine successor to the C7 Corvette. It’s been thought the upcoming 2018 C7 Corvette ZR1 would serve as the swan song for a front-engine, rear-wheel drive Corvette before the icon makes the switch to a mid-engine configuration.
But, maybe the Corvette team has a surprise up its sleeve before the C7 is whisked off. Only time will tell.

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I don't care how many variations of the Corvette they make...as long as we can ALWAYS buy a good 'Ol V8 (in the front)...rear drive...manual trans...dual exhaust...tire smoking...fuel burning...CORVETTE...American Muscle Car.

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Originally Posted by USA1-
I don't care how many variations of the Corvette they make...as long as we can ALWAYS buy a good 'Ol V8 (in the front)...rear drive...manual trans...dual exhaust...tire smoking...fuel burning...CORVETTE...American Muscle Car.
Has never been a muscle car. It existed before the term became known. Some muscle cars can beat a Corvette in an acceleration contest but put them in the environment the Corvette is designed for and they don't do very well. Back in the 60s I had muscle cars that could beat a Corvette but they didn't go around corners any where near as well as a Vette.

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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Has never been a muscle car. It existed before the term became known. Some muscle cars can beat a Corvette in an acceleration contest but put them in the environment the Corvette is designed for and they don't do very well. Back in the 60s I had muscle cars that could beat a Corvette but they didn't go around corners any where near as well as a Vette.

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I just don't know why the Corvette is classified as a "Muscle Car" by some folks...
As you pointed out, it wasn't/isn't designed as such and never will be.
GM already has a Muscle Car in its fleet...it's called the Camaro.
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
I just don't know why the Corvette is classified as a "Muscle Car" by some folks...
As you pointed out, it wasn't/isn't designed as such and never will be.
GM already has a Muscle Car in its fleet...it's called the Camaro.

It was just an expression...doesn't have to be a fact. Never expected it to become a debate over what is and isn't a Muscle car. Bottom line...DON'T TAKE AWAY MY COMMON MAN CORVETTE! Thank you.
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Originally Posted by USA1-
DON'T TAKE AWAY MY COMMON MAN CORVETTE! Thank you.
Trust me here: no one is going to take away your guns...errr, Corvette any time soon.
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Throw the LT4 behind the driver and two 100hp electric motors up front and you have 850 hp and AWD.
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Originally Posted by USA1-
It was just an expression...doesn't have to be a fact. Never expected it to become a debate over what is and isn't a Muscle car. Bottom line...DON'T TAKE AWAY MY COMMON MAN CORVETTE! Thank you.
I agree. It seems like a pedantic argument. Stick an LT1 into a two seater and it's a "sports car." Stick an LT1 into a four seater and it transforms into a "muscle car." So what's a Cadillac CTS-V (same engine)? Muscle car? Cadillac?? Hmmmm.
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Originally Posted by 2K14C7
Throw the LT4 behind the driver and two 100hp electric motors up front and you have 850 hp and AWD.
and $150k minimum.

Originally Posted by mschuyler
I agree. It seems like a pedantic argument. Stick an LT1 into a two seater and it's a "sports car." Stick an LT1 into a four seater and it transforms into a "muscle car." So what's a Cadillac CTS-V (same engine)? Muscle car? Cadillac?? Hmmmm.
The CTS-V is a luxury Sports Sedan meant to compete with the Germans.
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Originally Posted by USA1-
I don't care how many variations of the Corvette they make...as long as we can ALWAYS buy a good 'Ol V8 (in the front)...rear drive...manual trans...dual exhaust...tire smoking...fuel burning...CORVETTE...American Muscle Car.
Did you ask someone to hold your beer before you typed that?
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Jag!!!
I know why the C7 frame was at the GM battery lab.
The engineers are trying to figure out how to place the battery in the C7 so it can be replaced without destroying some of the interior. Mystery solved!!!



OK, OK, I'll go back in my hole.
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Thought the front page would want to keep up to date on the hybrid front too...
https://www.corvetteforum.com/articl...d-rumors-grow/
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Originally Posted by 2K14C7
Throw the LT4 behind the driver and two 100hp electric motors up front and you have 850 hp and AWD.
Many vehicles employ this combination, my Cayenne being one of them. It claims x HP because the the gas and electric but what I fail to understand is how the electric helps HP when I'd think under acceleration, the greater HP source would over spin the weaker HP source which would be the electric.

I equate it to two water streams emanating from separate sources, one at 90psi and the other at 20 psi. Adding a weaker water stream, from a separate source, to a much larger stream expecting it to increase the pressure doesn't add up for me.
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Just to clear up the terminology:

"Sports" car: Corvette, Viper
"Pony" car: Camaro, Mustang, Challenger
"Muscle" car: GTO, Chevelle, etc...

True modern day "Muscle" cars are hard to find now, maybe the Charger Hellcat is the only one????

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Hybrid is fine. Just don't pull a "Ford" on us with a V6. The V8 is the heart of the Corvette.

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Originally Posted by ZenicaPA
Many vehicles employ this combination, my Cayenne being one of them. It claims x HP because the the gas and electric but what I fail to understand is how the electric helps HP when I'd think under acceleration, the greater HP source would over spin the weaker HP source which would be the electric.
I forget exactly how these systems work.
IIRC, different manufacturers do it in different ways (flywheels, etc.)

Originally Posted by jimmyb
Just to clear up the terminology:

"Sports" car: Corvette, Viper
"Pony" car: Camaro, Mustang, Challenger
"Muscle" car: GTO, Chevelle, etc...
It might be splitting hairs a bit, but it is an interesting way to it and is probably better if everyone adopted it.
One small problem might be the how to classify the old Camaros, Stangs, and Challengers as "Muscle" or not?

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Hybrid is fine. Just don't pull a "Ford" on us with a V6. The V8 is the heart of the Corvette.

Michael
Absolutely right...V8 for certain.
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Who is the authority on what "sports" or "pony" or "muscle" car means?


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