[ZR1] 2017 ZL1 or ZR1?
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I know I may get some bias here, but I asked on the ZL1 Forum too. I'm seriously considering these two cars. Ignoring some of the obvious...
They both would cost me about the same. ZL1 makes a tad more HP from the factory, Hennessey has already gotten 632 WHP (80 HP over their baseline) with Headers, Intake, and a tune. the LS9 also makes amazing power, and has tons of headroom with the big blower and forged internals.
ZL1 has the advantage in stuff like, line lock, active rev-match (Not a big deal since I can rev-match myself), a touch screen that wasn't designed after a potato, and an overall nicer interior. I sat in one at the NAIAS, it's a tight car, much smaller than the 5th Gens.
But I still have a huge "fanboy" soft spot for the ZR1, because, it's the King...for now. The ZL1 weighs 3880 vs the ZR1's 33xx. I could go into more detail but if you could try to be unbiased, which would you buy if you had neither of them as of right now?
Just trying to get some opinions. Here's my problem with the ZL1, I know that buying it puts me into competition with the GT500 and the Hellcat, both of which have yet to announce their refresh versions of their car. GT500 will likely come out and wipe the floor with the ZL1, as will the Demon. For that reason, I kind of don't want to be in the muscle car class. It's a lot easier to make 3300 pounds go fast than nearly 4000 too, another thing I hate about muscle cars. If I were to buy either car, I'd just do bolt ons and a drag radial and call it a day, and drive it. I'm sure the ZR1 would be faster no matter, but is that worth it?
They both would cost me about the same. ZL1 makes a tad more HP from the factory, Hennessey has already gotten 632 WHP (80 HP over their baseline) with Headers, Intake, and a tune. the LS9 also makes amazing power, and has tons of headroom with the big blower and forged internals.
ZL1 has the advantage in stuff like, line lock, active rev-match (Not a big deal since I can rev-match myself), a touch screen that wasn't designed after a potato, and an overall nicer interior. I sat in one at the NAIAS, it's a tight car, much smaller than the 5th Gens.
But I still have a huge "fanboy" soft spot for the ZR1, because, it's the King...for now. The ZL1 weighs 3880 vs the ZR1's 33xx. I could go into more detail but if you could try to be unbiased, which would you buy if you had neither of them as of right now?
Just trying to get some opinions. Here's my problem with the ZL1, I know that buying it puts me into competition with the GT500 and the Hellcat, both of which have yet to announce their refresh versions of their car. GT500 will likely come out and wipe the floor with the ZL1, as will the Demon. For that reason, I kind of don't want to be in the muscle car class. It's a lot easier to make 3300 pounds go fast than nearly 4000 too, another thing I hate about muscle cars. If I were to buy either car, I'd just do bolt ons and a drag radial and call it a day, and drive it. I'm sure the ZR1 would be faster no matter, but is that worth it?
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Well, here in Michigan we only have 3 month summers. Car would be a fun weekend car, not daily driven. I wouldn't race it either, most I would do would be a few passes at the strip and that's it. I want good power but nothing crazy. I'll of course play with my local guys on late night roll races if I feel I can compete.
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Just think that the ZR1s have already lost about half their initial value while the ZL1 is full price. By the time you change your first set of tires, the ZL1 will have lost a huge amount of $ while the ZR1 would practically be the same price.
If you want to buy the ZL1 for its touch screen and interior then by all means go ahead. I owned a Caterham and an Elise so to me the ZR1 is crazy luxurious. I don't need a nice interior for my performance car. But if it's your daily driver then it makes sense. Otherwise, the ZR1 is more than enough. But I drive my ZR1 for fun and sometimes for long drives on the highway. I don't need a luxurious interior to be happy.
With that said, the ZL1 is a beast of a car. But it doesn't tickle my fancy the way the ZR1 does.
If you want to buy the ZL1 for its touch screen and interior then by all means go ahead. I owned a Caterham and an Elise so to me the ZR1 is crazy luxurious. I don't need a nice interior for my performance car. But if it's your daily driver then it makes sense. Otherwise, the ZR1 is more than enough. But I drive my ZR1 for fun and sometimes for long drives on the highway. I don't need a luxurious interior to be happy.
With that said, the ZL1 is a beast of a car. But it doesn't tickle my fancy the way the ZR1 does.
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I just read that the hellcat will be called venom and I think it will be 800hp. just breezed through it on my timeline today
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Yeah, I wasn't saying that the interior is the reason for either car, tbh I'm like you and could give a crap less for the most part.
Think I'd still take a super low mileage ZR1 over the ZL1, but I'd buy a ZL1 over a 10,000+ mile ZR1.
Think I'd still take a super low mileage ZR1 over the ZL1, but I'd buy a ZL1 over a 10,000+ mile ZR1.
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I'm a bit biased being a ZR1 owner, but to me the ZL1 is FUGLY and heavy...and it is not a two-seat sports car.
Both choices are quite different...I think you need to first decide what type of "go fast" car you really want.
Both choices are quite different...I think you need to first decide what type of "go fast" car you really want.
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Have a 13' ZR1 that I will probably keep forever. Been thinking about trading wife's truck for a ZL1. I think it is a cool car and she likes it too. At the end of the day however it is still a Camaro and although it is probably the best ever Camaro I don't think it can stand up to a ZR1 in the long term.
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The test cars are supposedly running a high 9 second 1/4, but due to rules and regs they think the released version will be running low 10's off the dealer lot on the tires that come from the factory.
Sounds wild, but nobody thought they would be releasing a 707 HP muscle car that runs low 11's and high tens if you put sticky tires on them. This from a 4500 lb car.
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Buy the ZR1. In a couple of years, you can sell the ZR1 and buy a used ZL1 with money left over.
Either way you decide is a win! The latest ZL1 is a huge improvement over the 4th gen Camaros I owned except in driving visibility.
Either way you decide is a win! The latest ZL1 is a huge improvement over the 4th gen Camaros I owned except in driving visibility.
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I just went through the same exact conundrum. The ZL1 is a badass camaro, its fresh and new, has super nice interior compared to the vette. However, to me, I see 15+ camaros every day, and the ZL1 looks too similar to the base model. See maybe 1-2 C6's, and you absolutely never see a ZR1.
It really came down to my wife. I took her to the dealer to look at some new camaros because I was trying to decide between nightfall grey and hyper blue. I was pretty much ready to order the car. She took one look at the row of camaros, then glanced at the row of corvettes, and said "You are getting the vette." She knew I wanted the ZR1, and that was all the persuasion I needed. Found my 2010 JSB with only 4200 miles on it a couple months later.
It really came down to my wife. I took her to the dealer to look at some new camaros because I was trying to decide between nightfall grey and hyper blue. I was pretty much ready to order the car. She took one look at the row of camaros, then glanced at the row of corvettes, and said "You are getting the vette." She knew I wanted the ZR1, and that was all the persuasion I needed. Found my 2010 JSB with only 4200 miles on it a couple months later.
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Im surprised that ZR1 hasn't dropped more in price with the C7ZO6 out there. Im on the market for something new, but I keep asking myself do I want a race car in a box that's older, or a new car that will take a $10K hit in the next two years.
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ZR1 is definitely better for aftermarket mods.
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The way new cars are dropping right now i wouldn'tbe surprised if your 10k number is about half. At least the zr1s will always have that essence of top dog and exclusivity like a tt supra or 03/04 cobra. There are so many zo6s out there its crazy. Im sure the zl1s will be easy to get as well but probably not as many takers with what you can find a zo6 for price wise new and used
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The way new cars are dropping right now i wouldn'tbe surprised if your 10k number is about half. At least the zr1s will always have that essence of top dog and exclusivity like a tt supra or 03/04 cobra. There are so many zo6s out there its crazy. Im sure the zl1s will be easy to get as well but probably not as many takers with what you can find a zo6 for price wise new and used
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