White C7 crash in NYC
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01-17-2017, 11:37 AM
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Maybe you missed the part in the article where it states the NJ State Trooper halted pursuit as the BMW entered the tunnel. What do you want LEO's to do, sit back and let sh** happen? Stop trying to always put the blame on the police and put it where it belongs.
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Wow! That's horrible and what an asso. Hopefully the vette driver's injuries aren't too serious. On another note, credit to BMW that someone can walk away after an accident like that. Wonder if the BMW was stolen? If not, should be easy enough to find him and put him away for a few years.
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Everyday happening.
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Wow! That's horrible and what an asso. Hopefully the vette driver's injuries aren't too serious. On another note, credit to BMW that someone can walk away after an accident like that. Wonder if the BMW was stolen? If not, should be easy enough to find him and put him away for a few years.
WOW.... its a quiet little town in the suburbs 30 min from Newark.
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I'll probably **** a bunch of you off, and get this thrown into the debate forum, but the Corvette driver (someone like you or me) is in the hospital as collateral damage from a high speed chase where the police failed to catch the bad guy. Not impressed.
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Yep, and to add to it, it was at high speed chase through a massively congested area and into the turf of the largest police department in the nation. I don't see how a high speed chase is the best option at that point. Unfortunate for the vette driver for sure.
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Prayers for the Corvette driver and hope they find the POS that fled the scene of the accident.
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Maybe you missed the part in the article where it states the NJ State Trooper halted pursuit as the BMW entered the tunnel. What do you want LEO's to do, sit back and let sh** happen? Stop trying to always put the blame on the police and put it where it belongs.
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I wonder why New York City police didn't either meet him at the tunnel exit or try placing those tire spikes across the lanes. The cameras in the tunnel would have told them where he was, when he'd exit and if other cars were in there.
Surely after 911, they have plans for nut jobs in the tunnel.
Surely after 911, they have plans for nut jobs in the tunnel.
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I wonder why New York City police didn't either meet him at the tunnel exit or try placing those tire spikes across the lanes. The cameras in the tunnel would have told them where he was, when he'd exit and if other cars were in there.
Surely after 911, they have plans for nut jobs in the tunnel.
Surely after 911, they have plans for nut jobs in the tunnel.
I was wondering the same thing. Didn't the NJ trooper notify NYC? Must be more to this.
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I'm not anti police. I get that this sort of thing puts them between a rock and a hard place, but the #1 responsibility is the safety of citizens, not catching the bad guy. In this case they failed to accomplish either.
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^^^
"On one end of the spectrum it could be the cop slamming on the brakes to hit the nearest donut shop. I'm not anti police". Really?
"I get that this sort of thing puts them between a rock and a hard place," If you've never worked in law enforcement (I have), you won't get it.
" but the #1 responsibility is the safety of citizens, not catching the bad guy." Huh?
"On one end of the spectrum it could be the cop slamming on the brakes to hit the nearest donut shop. I'm not anti police". Really?
"I get that this sort of thing puts them between a rock and a hard place," If you've never worked in law enforcement (I have), you won't get it.
" but the #1 responsibility is the safety of citizens, not catching the bad guy." Huh?
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Sometimes catching the bad guy IS the best way to protect citizens. Sure, some people will run from the cops for a simple traffic infraction.......but most of the time someone willing to do that is either a fleeing felon, is wanted for arrest or has stolen the vehicle and seeks to avoid apprehension.
The police officer involved was probably caught between a rock and a hard place. As a former deputy sheriff, I feel for him/her. If you use force to effect an arrest, you are a bully or a thug. If the bad guy gets away, you're a coward or an ineffective officer.
Let's hope justice is served for the perp and that the Corvette driver makes a quick recovery AND has good insurance.
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Didn't really miss anything. I just don't really buy it. You have to define "halted persuit". On one end of the spectrum it could be the cop slamming on the brakes to hit the nearest donut shop. On the other end of the spectrum it might be simply turning off the lights and laying back another 100 ft. Probably closer to the latter, which does little other than attempt mitigating liability once the Corvette owner lawyers up.
I'm not anti police. I get that this sort of thing puts them between a rock and a hard place, but the #1 responsibility is the safety of citizens, not catching the bad guy. In this case they failed to accomplish either.
I'm not anti police. I get that this sort of thing puts them between a rock and a hard place, but the #1 responsibility is the safety of citizens, not catching the bad guy. In this case they failed to accomplish either.
Ever hear the word deterrent?
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This happened in L.I. last week
A NY State Troopers license plate reader went off saying car was stolen trooper did not put lights or siren on, he followed the stolen car and called for back up, the stolen car noticed the trooper and speed of to hit a fence car flipped and ended in a pond where all 3 passengers died, trooper got out and tried to save them but car was to far under water.
This tropper did the right thing by not chasing them thru traffic.
A NY State Troopers license plate reader went off saying car was stolen trooper did not put lights or siren on, he followed the stolen car and called for back up, the stolen car noticed the trooper and speed of to hit a fence car flipped and ended in a pond where all 3 passengers died, trooper got out and tried to save them but car was to far under water.
This tropper did the right thing by not chasing them thru traffic.
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So once they catch him... what will they do... LET HIM GO ( called BAIL )
which makes the whole thing absurd...
I wonder if he is a Forum Member.. i would like to hear his story...
All the best to that C7 driver...
which makes the whole thing absurd...
I wonder if he is a Forum Member.. i would like to hear his story...
All the best to that C7 driver...
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This happened in L.I. last week
A NY State Troopers license plate reader went off saying car was stolen trooper did not put lights or siren on, he followed the stolen car and called for back up, the stolen car noticed the trooper and speed of to hit a fence car flipped and ended in a pond where all 3 passengers died, trooper got out and tried to save them but car was to far under water.
This tropper did the right thing by not chasing them thru traffic.
A NY State Troopers license plate reader went off saying car was stolen trooper did not put lights or siren on, he followed the stolen car and called for back up, the stolen car noticed the trooper and speed of to hit a fence car flipped and ended in a pond where all 3 passengers died, trooper got out and tried to save them but car was to far under water.
This tropper did the right thing by not chasing them thru traffic.
Newark NJ is the stolen car capital for all of the eastern seaboard and Newark PD have a special task force for just this problem. They assessed the risk at that late hour and must have had station permission to give chase. What is odd is NYC PD wasn't at the tunnel to greet the stolen vehicle.
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Not being a cop, I won't sit in my comfy chair and criticize their tactics as daffydrunk is. I will say if thugs know there is a "no chase policy" chaos will ensue.