Is anyone familiar with this hood?
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Is anyone familiar with this hood?
TD-Style Carbon Fiber
http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/p-1...7-2004-c5.aspx
Looking for option as MCM are so hard to find.
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http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/p-1...7-2004-c5.aspx
Looking for option as MCM are so hard to find.
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Nice looking hood, but I wouldn't be wild about using hood pins to secure the hood to the car.
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*STRONGLY RECOMMEND HOOD PINS FOR SAFETY REASONS
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE USE OF A HEAT SHIELD
*ANDERSON COMPOSITES DOES NOT SUGGEST RE-INSTALLING GAS SHOCKS/DAMPERS/STRUTS
Maybe its just CYA from their legal department, but I could not find one to see in person and I could not find photos of the underside of the hood to gauge the structural supports of their design. They may be fine but would like to hear from others who actually have the hood mounted and in use.
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I have the cc carbon fiber version of this hood on my car (painted) and my hood also has the side vents as well, I have had the hood on my car for over 3 years now with no issues, I do not use hood pins and have the shocks on it just like stock, I have also had the car over 150mph on the highway again with no issues. I wish you luck on a new hood. I have attached a pic.
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I have the cc carbon fiber version of this hood on my car (painted) and my hood also has the side vents as well, I have had the hood on my car for over 3 years now with no issues, I do not use hood pins and have the shocks on it just like stock, I have also had the car over 150mph on the highway again with no issues. I wish you luck on a new hood. I have attached a pic.
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there was a member on here that had the type-tm hood (mcm replica) and there were some shots of the underside, it looked pretty good and much better quality than carbon creationz... I considered getting one of these myself if the mcm never comes back
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I looked at their site and am guessing they no longer sell them, TY
Thats my quandary Jack, I figure with my background I could be creative and come up with an alternative to the pin's.
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Makes me wonder as well, hoping for user feedback.
Your car looks amazing.
And so good to hear, not sure if I will do a Buck 50 in mine...but ya never know. TY
TY, I am hoping he will see the thread and chime in.
I have the cc carbon fiber version of this hood on my car (painted) and my hood also has the side vents as well, I have had the hood on my car for over 3 years now with no issues, I do not use hood pins and have the shocks on it just like stock, I have also had the car over 150mph on the highway again with no issues. I wish you luck on a new hood. I have attached a pic.
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And so good to hear, not sure if I will do a Buck 50 in mine...but ya never know. TY
TY, I am hoping he will see the thread and chime in.
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I have the cc carbon fiber version of this hood on my car (painted) and my hood also has the side vents as well, I have had the hood on my car for over 3 years now with no issues, I do not use hood pins and have the shocks on it just like stock, I have also had the car over 150mph on the highway again with no issues. I wish you luck on a new hood. I have attached a pic.
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If it was me I would call their tech department & ask them to give me some reasons why to these 3 items.
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND HOOD PINS FOR SAFETY REASONS
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE USE OF A HEAT SHIELD
*ANDERSON COMPOSITES DOES NOT SUGGEST RE-INSTALLING GAS SHOCKS/DAMPERS/STRUTS
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND HOOD PINS FOR SAFETY REASONS
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE USE OF A HEAT SHIELD
*ANDERSON COMPOSITES DOES NOT SUGGEST RE-INSTALLING GAS SHOCKS/DAMPERS/STRUTS
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I looked into these hoods and this is what made me shy away:
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND HOOD PINS FOR SAFETY REASONS
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE USE OF A HEAT SHIELD
*ANDERSON COMPOSITES DOES NOT SUGGEST RE-INSTALLING GAS SHOCKS/DAMPERS/STRUTS
Maybe its just CYA from their legal department, but I could not find one to see in person and I could not find photos of the underside of the hood to gauge the structural supports of their design. They may be fine but would like to hear from others who actually have the hood mounted and in use.
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND HOOD PINS FOR SAFETY REASONS
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE USE OF A HEAT SHIELD
*ANDERSON COMPOSITES DOES NOT SUGGEST RE-INSTALLING GAS SHOCKS/DAMPERS/STRUTS
Maybe its just CYA from their legal department, but I could not find one to see in person and I could not find photos of the underside of the hood to gauge the structural supports of their design. They may be fine but would like to hear from others who actually have the hood mounted and in use.
The heat shielding, I don't really know about honestly...maybe their hardener for the CF can melt at temperatures they've seen underhood, but that's a guess at best.
The hood damper issue has got to be about the weight of the hood compared to stock. The stock dampers are tuned for a specific weight compared to the replacement hood. When I had my STi, I added hood dampers to replace the OEM prop rod and I had to specify that I had an STi as the WRX/STi had aluminum hoods whereas the stock Imprezas had a steel hood. The difference in weight affected which damper was selected. I believe they even had a 3rd option for CF hoods since they were slightly lighter than the aluminum in the STi.
Again, this is all my best guess from what I've read over the years, so YMMV.
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Just a little fyi
Be very careful of any Hand lay up hood... I looked at these links in this thread , the first CF hood posted this under this hood
Here are some key points to consider:
Although some body shops have been in business for many years, they may not have sufficient experience in installing carbon fiber or fiber glass components. Make sure that your installer is familiar with these products.
Here is how I read this : The hood needs a high end experience body shop to fit this hood.. That means its not a direct bolt on. It required a Carbon fiber expert and a body shop with experience to make a hand layup hood fit, It not just turning bolts. With a hand lay up hood, it could take anywhere from 6 to 16 hours to " make it Fit" source: other who have bought hand lay up hood and posted their experience here over the last 16 years. this means additional cost and @ 80 dollars an hours from an experienced CF body shop. That could mean an additional 1000 to 1500 not including paint.
BY comparison, and for no other reason: a Vacuumed formed, or a pressurized autoclave hood does not vary from one hood to the next.
My motor city hood took zero fit time, only a light sanding, seal, primer and paint.. it took 20 minutes to bolt and align. I know MCM hood are in limbo at the moment but make sure you do all your homework, and know exactly what you are getting into with a hand layup hood. I don't want to see members without all the facts that manufacturers seems to dismiss, and fail to advertise because they are negative aspects.
Getting a new Motor city Hood in 2017 for 2Grand would be a steal, considering all of the junk that is out there, and what it would cost to make them fit... Marc is trying to sell this hood for 2001 year.. pricing. If enough people knew their value and willing to pay 2 K, it would make him more prone to go into production. I'm fairly sure this is the bottle neck. He cant find resources to make a genuine MCM hood and still make a profit in 2017 using 2001 pricing.
Good Luck
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Here are some key points to consider:
Although some body shops have been in business for many years, they may not have sufficient experience in installing carbon fiber or fiber glass components. Make sure that your installer is familiar with these products.
Here is how I read this : The hood needs a high end experience body shop to fit this hood.. That means its not a direct bolt on. It required a Carbon fiber expert and a body shop with experience to make a hand layup hood fit, It not just turning bolts. With a hand lay up hood, it could take anywhere from 6 to 16 hours to " make it Fit" source: other who have bought hand lay up hood and posted their experience here over the last 16 years. this means additional cost and @ 80 dollars an hours from an experienced CF body shop. That could mean an additional 1000 to 1500 not including paint.
BY comparison, and for no other reason: a Vacuumed formed, or a pressurized autoclave hood does not vary from one hood to the next.
My motor city hood took zero fit time, only a light sanding, seal, primer and paint.. it took 20 minutes to bolt and align. I know MCM hood are in limbo at the moment but make sure you do all your homework, and know exactly what you are getting into with a hand layup hood. I don't want to see members without all the facts that manufacturers seems to dismiss, and fail to advertise because they are negative aspects.
Getting a new Motor city Hood in 2017 for 2Grand would be a steal, considering all of the junk that is out there, and what it would cost to make them fit... Marc is trying to sell this hood for 2001 year.. pricing. If enough people knew their value and willing to pay 2 K, it would make him more prone to go into production. I'm fairly sure this is the bottle neck. He cant find resources to make a genuine MCM hood and still make a profit in 2017 using 2001 pricing.
Good Luck
Bill aka ET
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Thanks for the link.
If it was me I would call their tech department & ask them to give me some reasons why to these 3 items.
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND HOOD PINS FOR SAFETY REASONS
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE USE OF A HEAT SHIELD
*ANDERSON COMPOSITES DOES NOT SUGGEST RE-INSTALLING GAS SHOCKS/DAMPERS/STRUTS
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND HOOD PINS FOR SAFETY REASONS
*STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE USE OF A HEAT SHIELD
*ANDERSON COMPOSITES DOES NOT SUGGEST RE-INSTALLING GAS SHOCKS/DAMPERS/STRUTS
If I recall from my old tuner car days, most of the CF hoods are a CF layer on a fiberglass or equivalent skeleton and they're not 100% CF pieces. The old ViS hoods were very much like that. The worry was that either the OEM hood latch could effectively break off from the hood and cause the hood to pop up, or the CF layer could actually separate from the under-layer and send the top flying.
Again, this is all my best guess from what I've read over the years, so YMMV.
Again, this is all my best guess from what I've read over the years, so YMMV.
TY.
Be very careful of any Hand lay up hood... I looked at these links in this thread , the first CF hood posted this under this hood
Here are some key points to consider:
Although some body shops have been in business for many years, they may not have sufficient experience in installing carbon fiber or fiber glass components. Make sure that your installer is familiar with these products.
Here is how I read this : The hood needs a high end experience body shop to fit this hood.. That means its not a direct bolt on. It required a Carbon fiber expert and a body shop with experience to make a hand layup hood fit, It not just turning bolts. With a hand lay up hood, it could take anywhere from 6 to 16 hours to " make it Fit" source: other who have bought hand lay up hood and posted their experience here over the last 16 years. this means additional cost and @ 80 dollars an hours from an experienced CF body shop. That could mean an additional 1000 to 1500 not including paint.
Good Luck
Bill aka ET
Here are some key points to consider:
Although some body shops have been in business for many years, they may not have sufficient experience in installing carbon fiber or fiber glass components. Make sure that your installer is familiar with these products.
Here is how I read this : The hood needs a high end experience body shop to fit this hood.. That means its not a direct bolt on. It required a Carbon fiber expert and a body shop with experience to make a hand layup hood fit, It not just turning bolts. With a hand lay up hood, it could take anywhere from 6 to 16 hours to " make it Fit" source: other who have bought hand lay up hood and posted their experience here over the last 16 years. this means additional cost and @ 80 dollars an hours from an experienced CF body shop. That could mean an additional 1000 to 1500 not including paint.
Good Luck
Bill aka ET
Agree for sure Bill.
I did not get a chance to talk with the body man last week as an unexpected event popped up.
I should see him this week and will ask questions for sure.
I do like the style, but the build has me concerned for sure.
The TS might still be in the mix.
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The first and last pictures were of the Anderson hood. Did anybody notice the difference in center rise between the Anderson and MCM/copies? The latter were made to clear a Maggie.