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Been doing a lot of research on 1968 A-Pillar windshield weather strip. Trying to make the car NCRS correct. Several questions regarding the "hinged" lower weather strip that goes down into the door jam - is the one piece connected to the upper weatherstrip correct? 2 Piece, or no lower piece at all? Looked at all the suppliers, and do not see a consensus on what is factory original.
Any Bloomington or NCRS judged cars that you can show photos? NCRS judging advice? The Judging manual does not describe it. Advice on which supplier to purchase from?
ALSO, what about location of the rubber coated upper weatherstrip retainer clip location?
Any advice and photos greatly appreciated
bigredbrad
Last edited by bigredbrad; 03-30-2017 at 12:23 PM.
Hi brb,
I believe the 68-69 cars had the lower 'gutter' as part of the a-pillar weatherstrip strip. Perhaps you'll get some more replies.
Shouldn't you be able to locate the blow-out clip exactly by looking for the 2 rivets holes in the weatherstrip retainer that receive the rivets that attach it?
Regards,
Alan
Alan - This is the photo I have of my passenger side upper A pillar trim when the car was disassembled 10+ years ago. There is no evidence of the rubber coated weather strip retainer clip, and no holes where it was rivited. Im questioning if 1968 had them or not?
Hi brb,
Learned something.
I'm looking at a photo from Dobbins 68-72 book and it shows a passenger side a-pillar without the blow-out clip!!!!
I assume WAY too much!
Regards,
Alan
Someone like loup68 or avalonjohn can tell us for sure!
I have the MFDobbins book as well, and I have used a magnifying glass to look at the photos and see no weatherstrip retainer. My confusion is that every parts supplier says that one should be installed.
Im ok with not putting on one the car, but I was questioning if it was a "late vs early" issue, or that my stainless trim was not original to the car.
Here is how I have it currently mocked up for installation. In the second trim screw hole down from the top - approx 4-5 inches down.
The "new" version of the TIMJG says nothing about it on page 36-37 Wipers & Windshield trim - Stainless-steel trim.
I also looked at page 20-21 Door Jamb Weather stripping / door hinges to try and determine my question about lower weather stripping that extends down into the door jamb from the A pillar stainless trim
Hi brb,
On my 71 the center line of the clip is about 1 3/4" down from the top of the retainer.
I'm a firm believer in letting the car guide you as to what was originally on it.
As far as I know there have been no reproductions of the retainer. (I could be wrong) I'm not sure… maybe a service replacement wouldn't have had the clip???
Do all the screw holes in the retainer and the a-pillar itself align? That would, to me, indicate it's originality to this car.
Regards,
Alan
68 cars didn't use the blow out clip, and they used the pillar weatherstrip with the lower gutter made onto it as pictured below.
This weatherstrip was used on all cars 1968-1971 and in 1972 they changed the pillar to omit the gutter. (they also changed the inner door jamb design as well).
Thanks for the reply, I have a set of those with the lower hinge pillar that I think I may have bought from you. I am having trouble lining up the screw holes in the new weather strip to what is in the car. As Alan71 said, I believe that the car will tell you what it wants, So far, Im not seeing exactly how the lower weather strip attaches to the existing screw holes in the car. It looks like I have 3 holes just for the lower portion that goes in the door jamb, the weather strip only has location for 2.
The AIM shows 3 screws total in the lower hinged portion of weatherstrip, does your have 2 holes or 3?
bigredbrad
Last edited by bigredbrad; 03-30-2017 at 03:32 PM.
Hi brb,
On my 71 the center line of the clip is about 1 3/4" down from the top of the retainer.
Yes, I am now convinced the 68 did not have these, and that lines up with other originality things I have found on this car. I was trying to put them back on the car assuming the parts sellers were correct in saying they needed to be on 1968. They are wrong.
Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi brb,
Do all the screw holes in the retainer and the a-pillar itself align? That would, to me, indicate it's originality to this car.
Regards,
Alan
Yes, everything else on the inner and outer SS trim match the existing holes in the windshield post. So, I will disassemble the trim, remove the retainer clip and put things back together. Now I just need to find a photo of an original lower weather strip where it goes from the w/s pillar into the door jam.
Hi brb,
In later years there were typically 3, holes near the top of the hinge pillar for the gutter screws.
The upper hole is really at the bottom of the a-pillar strip. The other 2 are in the gutter.
I don't know how this might correspond with what you're seeing.
Regards,
Alan
Hi brb,
In later years there were typically 3, holes near the top of the hinge pillar for the gutter screws.
The upper hole is really at the bottom of the a-pillar strip. The other 2 are in the gutter.
I don't know how this might correspond with what you're seeing.
Regards,
Alan
YES, that is exactly how my car is Alan. My question to Willcox is does their weatherstrips have the third (last) hole located in them? The 2 sets I already have do not have a hole, or a indentation for a screw to go in there. The AIM for 1968 shows there to be a screw there. I can just drill a hole in mine and make them fit, just always trying to do it right. Without that third screw, the whole end of that weatherstrip will just be flopping around when the door closes on it.
Hi brb,
You need to be careful when you install the gutter.
If it's in not the quite right place it puts so much pressure on the top of the door weather strip that it begins to 'erode' the door strip as the door is opened and closed.
Regards,
Alan
It's this interface that you need to be careful with.
This is how I had to install the last screw. No hole or even dimple in the weatherstrip to locate where it needed to be. The car had an original hole though. I hate to do things this way, but Im wasting time agonizing over each and every screw that needs to be installed. Time to make forward progress.
Hi brb,
You're right, sometimes you have to say… "ENOUGH"!
The screw is there. It's tucked under the bottom of the gutter and hidden by the shadow in the photo.
Regards,
Alan
I just wanted to confirm, being an almost 45 year 68 coupe owner of a car made on March 26th 1968, that it has the lower gutter and no upper blow-out clip. Lou.
I just wanted to confirm, being an almost 45 year 68 coupe owner of a car made on March 26th 1968, that it has the lower gutter and no upper blow-out clip. Lou.
03-30-2017, 12:22 PM
1968 W/S A Pillar weatherstrip - WHAT IS CORRECT?
