MUKAK

sometimes i wonder why i live in irvine ( ohh thats right i got 2 kids in school still )


damnn IPD got me 2 smog reff tickets in the last 8 months ( thanks a lot ) both got written off off coarse

Chris Edwards

I never knew city cops could write smog tickets?? Did they pop your hood?

MUKAK

yes they pull over Hooked up cars and make you pop the hood, if you say no they will tow

pauldana

When did this start happening??? Like wtf?!?!

Is this standard? What city's? All? Just Irvine?

Varmit

sounds like a violation of the 4th amendment to me, during my 35 years as an LEO never heard of such a thing. U need a little thing called Probable Cause. The California Vehicle Code defines exactly what conditions a vehicle can be towed from a public roadway. Contempt of cop is not among them.
There must be more to this story

MUKAK

this been going on for a while now.. if your car look suspect they will make u pop ur hood and do a visual check to see if they can see anything missing or disconnected ( smog stuff ) and if you have a CAI or HEaders you gotta have CARB sticker if not you will be sent to a SMOG REFEREE

this mostly happens in IRVINE/MISSION VIEJO/ALISO/Newports and also Huntington Beach and westminster area

Corvette_Nut

Thanks for the warning.....

Keith N

Benny - Earlier this year, my son (27 yrs old) was driving his Subaru WRX from work in Newport Beach to his town home in Irvine. He's a CPA and he was dressed in business attire. His car has a no tinted side windows and a front license plate. He was stopped by Irvine PD to check for performance modifications, not for speeding or any traffic violations. The car is completely stock except for a cat back muffler system. There was no probable cause for the traffic stop and I believe it was harassment by Irvine PD. The LEO ran his license and checked under the hood then let him drive away. IMHO - Not Cool!

whalepirot

Hmm; never had that happen. IPD does have a 'rep'.

In the absence of real crime...........

Outside of a 'smoker', since when is any cop an expert on SMOG gear required for ANY car or remotely qualified to give a visual inspection of same?

78PC

"In 2002, the California Health and Safety Code added Section 44081, which was meant to give the code and existing smog laws some “teeth.” This specific section gives police officers in California the authority to randomly stop vehicles to “ensure their compliance with state smog laws.” The first portion of the section reads:

44081. (a) (1) The department, in cooperation with the state board, shall institute procedures for auditing the emissions of vehicles while actually being driven on the streets and highways of the state. The department may undertake those procedures itself or seek a qualified vendor of these services. The primary object of the procedures shall be the detection of gross polluters. The procedures shall consist of techniques and technologies determined to be effective for that purpose by the department, including, but not limited to, remote sensing. The procedures may include pullovers for roadside emissions testing and inspection."

toddalin

A "gross polluter" would emit visible emissions. To stop someone based on "vehicle profiling" does not comply with the "spirit of the law" and a good lawyer out for blood could see a class action case here.

Varmit

I see that it states the intention of the law is the detection of gross polluters. Does not some suspicion have to be present. How does the cop determine a gross polluter if he has no objective indications of such. For that matter he could pull over a prius to inspect. Once stopped how does he make that determination. Does a CAI qualify as a gross polluter. How could a cat back exhaust come close to a gross polluter. I was an leo for 35 years and this to me looks like an excuse to exercise excessive authority. Does the state of CA have the authority to over ride the 4th, I thinks this needs to be challenged

whalepirot

So do I, but it'll take some deep pockets. In this PC Amerika, who is going to stand up for anyone who has a fun car, however hot-rodded (or not) it is?

Hell, we heard of calls to CHP made about racing Corvettes on Antonio Pkwy. in Ladera Ranch, recently and any of us on that Blockhead Corvette drive were head-scratching at that one. I believe it is some Puritan or Prius driver who decries ANY fun car and it's driver.

I am quite certain that 'sports car profiling' isn't contained in any discrimination law, but SEMA may have some ideas and/or clout.

darnplumber

Doughnut Derilicks in Huntington Beach is alive and well.... but be there by 5:30 if you want a good spot.

whalepirot

The new site may become the District. I got a note that some guys gathered there this morning, but I went to Monarch Bay, where I also heard that statement.

fruitsalad

This governs roadside smog checks, which are not compulsory and do not result in penalties for failure. Can you provide the CAVC section that indicates "modification checks" are primary probable cause for a traffic stop?

MrGTC

Keep us posted. Planned on attending the last one on the 27th before I heard it got shut down

whalepirot

oft am there; once/month or so, anyway.

Different mix of cars with less exotics (and checkwiters) but more real car guys with rods, collectors, radicals, in progress, etc.

CnC: http://irvine.carsandcoffee.info/ Nothing firm posted yet, and I don't 'do' f*c*b**k.