Avoid Summit Racing at all cost!!!
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Avoid Summit Racing at all cost!!!
I'm extremely disappointed and upset with Summit Racing. Here's my story:
On February 3 of this year, I purchase from Summit Racing a Mcleod RXT twin clutch kit, slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder. Before I did purchase these items online, I call them to ask them if these part would be compatible with one another. They told me yes, they'll run together with no problems at all. So based on that, I made the purchase.
On March 7 I finally received the parts, after 5 weeks of delay. This was primarily due to Summit not having the parts in stock and had to order them from Mcleod themselves. Which meant they had to wait to receive the parts from them in order to ship it to me. But I was in no rush, so I didn't mind.
Middle of June and I send my 99 Corvette to my mechanic's to have these parts installed, along with some additional work. He was extremely busy with other cars at his shop, but it was no rush. I told him to take as much time as he needed.
Now in the middle of August, the car is finished. When I went to pick it up, my mechanic told me there was a big problem. Went he went for a test drive, he heard crunching and grinding sounds within the bowels of the transmission. Specifically were the clutch and flywheel are located. I test drove the car myself, I hear the sounds and knew I was screwed. We both thought at first that the clutch was defective and so we made a call to Summit. My mechanic explained the problem to customer service and ask if the parts could possible be wrong. Their answer, "No sure according to our application on our site shows it's the right part for that vehicle." So we called Mcleod, got a hold of Lee and explain the problem to him. When we told him what kind of clutch, slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder we were running, he immediately replied, "Oh no, the RXT clutch was not design for our slave and clutch master cylinder. It was design for a stock slave and clutch master cylinder. Summit should've known better then to sell you these parts." He then told me to send the clutch back to Mcleod so that they could examine it and they'll send me a new one. He also said to send the slave and clutch master cylinder back to Summit, where they'll contact him and he'll tell them to credit me on those parts.
I called back Summit and told the customer service what Mcleod said and asked them who was going to be responsible of covering my labor cost. They pretty much said rudely that it's not their problem cause it's pass their 90 day warrenty, that me and my mechanic should've known better and it's not our policy to cover labor charges. I reply, "how is it my problem when I called you guys and asked you if these parts would work with one another. Only for you guys to tell me yes and now my car is stuck on the lift waiting to have this problem fix that should've been done once. You guys even told my mechanic that these parts should've worked and now it's costing him space cause of your lack of knowledge on these parts." They pretty much called me a liar and just gave me the same it's not our problem, it's yours attitude. At that point I asked for their manager and went no where with him either.
It's such a shame, they where a good company before. But ever since they expaneded and got three locations, it went to hell in a hand basket. Now cause of them, I'm $4000can in the hole with a car that doesn't work. I'm going to find the contacts of the owners of Summit Racing and attempt to explain my case to them, rather then dealing with rude customer service reps that don't have a clue what there saying. Apparently I'm not the only one to fall victim to this. I've read thousands of cases of people getting screwed over financially by them. And why, cause they don't care as long as they get the money, they'll sell anything. After this experience, I'm not dealing with them agian and I would advise everyone else, including Mcleod or any automotive parts manufacture to do the same. Cause let's face it, why would you want to have a company like Summit Racing to represent a produce that they don't have a clue what they're selling, nor cares to?
On February 3 of this year, I purchase from Summit Racing a Mcleod RXT twin clutch kit, slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder. Before I did purchase these items online, I call them to ask them if these part would be compatible with one another. They told me yes, they'll run together with no problems at all. So based on that, I made the purchase.
On March 7 I finally received the parts, after 5 weeks of delay. This was primarily due to Summit not having the parts in stock and had to order them from Mcleod themselves. Which meant they had to wait to receive the parts from them in order to ship it to me. But I was in no rush, so I didn't mind.
Middle of June and I send my 99 Corvette to my mechanic's to have these parts installed, along with some additional work. He was extremely busy with other cars at his shop, but it was no rush. I told him to take as much time as he needed.
Now in the middle of August, the car is finished. When I went to pick it up, my mechanic told me there was a big problem. Went he went for a test drive, he heard crunching and grinding sounds within the bowels of the transmission. Specifically were the clutch and flywheel are located. I test drove the car myself, I hear the sounds and knew I was screwed. We both thought at first that the clutch was defective and so we made a call to Summit. My mechanic explained the problem to customer service and ask if the parts could possible be wrong. Their answer, "No sure according to our application on our site shows it's the right part for that vehicle." So we called Mcleod, got a hold of Lee and explain the problem to him. When we told him what kind of clutch, slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder we were running, he immediately replied, "Oh no, the RXT clutch was not design for our slave and clutch master cylinder. It was design for a stock slave and clutch master cylinder. Summit should've known better then to sell you these parts." He then told me to send the clutch back to Mcleod so that they could examine it and they'll send me a new one. He also said to send the slave and clutch master cylinder back to Summit, where they'll contact him and he'll tell them to credit me on those parts.
I called back Summit and told the customer service what Mcleod said and asked them who was going to be responsible of covering my labor cost. They pretty much said rudely that it's not their problem cause it's pass their 90 day warrenty, that me and my mechanic should've known better and it's not our policy to cover labor charges. I reply, "how is it my problem when I called you guys and asked you if these parts would work with one another. Only for you guys to tell me yes and now my car is stuck on the lift waiting to have this problem fix that should've been done once. You guys even told my mechanic that these parts should've worked and now it's costing him space cause of your lack of knowledge on these parts." They pretty much called me a liar and just gave me the same it's not our problem, it's yours attitude. At that point I asked for their manager and went no where with him either.
It's such a shame, they where a good company before. But ever since they expaneded and got three locations, it went to hell in a hand basket. Now cause of them, I'm $4000can in the hole with a car that doesn't work. I'm going to find the contacts of the owners of Summit Racing and attempt to explain my case to them, rather then dealing with rude customer service reps that don't have a clue what there saying. Apparently I'm not the only one to fall victim to this. I've read thousands of cases of people getting screwed over financially by them. And why, cause they don't care as long as they get the money, they'll sell anything. After this experience, I'm not dealing with them agian and I would advise everyone else, including Mcleod or any automotive parts manufacture to do the same. Cause let's face it, why would you want to have a company like Summit Racing to represent a produce that they don't have a clue what they're selling, nor cares to?
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Are they taking the slave and master cylinders as you requested?
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Ummm...because he ordered the parts through summit. In the past they were good about letting you know what works with what and blah blah blah. So, he trusted teh vendor and got shafted by them.
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If he'd bought the parts from McLeod, you'd have a point. The folks at Summit said the parts were compatible. They're on the hook.
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$4000 for a clutch job is this thing a Ferrari?
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St. Jude Donor '09 & '12, '14
Interesting. Summit should credit you for the parts.
No way would I authorize labor reimbursement of 4k.
Did you not research this setup prior? I get you asked Summit...
Typically when going aftermarket parts you read about them working on some other poor slob's car.
Sounds like you are lone ranger on this setup - Not a lot of research behind it.
No way would I authorize labor reimbursement of 4k.
Did you not research this setup prior? I get you asked Summit...
Typically when going aftermarket parts you read about them working on some other poor slob's car.
Sounds like you are lone ranger on this setup - Not a lot of research behind it.
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I've read thousands of cases of people getting screwed over financially by them.
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Do you ask the pimply faced kid at O'reillys questions like this?......I don't. It's the same thing. If you asked the kid there and he said" yeah, it'll work" and it doesn't, then it's still on you.
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wonder if CFOT will offer a refund after all the advice i took here....
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OP I hope you get your car sorted to your satisfaction. I don't expect Summit's year after year perfection to be erased by one failure whether it is real or only perceived.
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In my opinion, common sense says that a company with millions of parts for sale wont know compatibility of all of them. A call to Mcleod before purchase should have been made.
Edit: and I still intend to shop at Summit. I'm not sold that this issue ruins a company's reputation.
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In my opinion, common sense says that a company with millions of parts for sale wont know compatibility of all of them. A call to Mcleod before purchase should have been made.
Edit: and I still intend to shop at Summit. I'm not sold that this issue ruins a company's reputation.
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Sucks that Summit gave you some bad info, but for an expensive upgrade like you had planned, I agree and think that I would have called McLeod and verified before placing the order. I can see Summit refunding the parts costs based on your conversation with McLeod, but no way will they reimburse the labor charges.
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Summit is one of the vendors that I've had the best luck with. I would say your experience is the exception and not the norm. I would call in and ask to talk with the next level of support.
Last edited by Hitch; 09-29-2013 at 04:40 PM.
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First off, I'm not reading all of that.
My experience with Summit 'Techs' is mixed. Some know what the hell they are doing, others couldn't tell their butt from a hole in the ground.
Verify and Check, then Check Again.
My experience with Summit 'Techs' is mixed. Some know what the hell they are doing, others couldn't tell their butt from a hole in the ground.
Verify and Check, then Check Again.
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Sucks that Summit gave you some bad info, but for an expensive upgrade like you had planned, I agree and think that I would have called McLeod and verified before placing the order. I can see Summit refunding the parts costs based on your conversation with McLeod, but no way will they reimburse the labor charges.
Heck, I'd never even have the nerve to ask for labor reimbursement.