Please clarify: What does the front air dam actual do
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Please clarify: What does the front air dam actual do
There has been a lot of debate about this and why it isn't on Z51 (and z06?) but is on the base model:
I've heard it increases downforce, which seems strange because the performance model(s) don't have it, but have more downforce in the rear.
Can you give us an explanation for why it isn't on the performance models and any data on what it does for aero (effects on lift/drag/etc).
Thanks!
I've heard it increases downforce, which seems strange because the performance model(s) don't have it, but have more downforce in the rear.
Can you give us an explanation for why it isn't on the performance models and any data on what it does for aero (effects on lift/drag/etc).
Thanks!
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There has been a lot of debate about this and why it isn't on Z51 (and z06?) but is on the base model:
I've heard it increases downforce, which seems strange because the performance model(s) don't have it, but have more downforce in the rear.
Can you give us an explanation for why it isn't on the performance models and any data on what it does for aero (effects on lift/drag/etc).
Thanks!
I've heard it increases downforce, which seems strange because the performance model(s) don't have it, but have more downforce in the rear.
Can you give us an explanation for why it isn't on the performance models and any data on what it does for aero (effects on lift/drag/etc).
Thanks!
The centre air dam on base Stingray is fitted for fuel economy purposes, it helps reducing aerodynamic drag. It is not fitted to Z51, Z06 and GS in order to allow more air under the car to help cooling the drivetrain and Brakes,too. It could be fitted to Z51 if maximum fuel economy is desired instead of performance driving.
C4 and C5 generations definitely needed the centre air dam to guide air towards the Engine Radiators, this is not the case with the C7.
Regards Hubertus
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Makes sense. Does it do anything for aero?
#5
Melting Slicks
Your C7 should ONLY have the center spoiler IF your car does NOT HAVE DRY SUMP. If your car has dry sump and you have the center spoiler, then the dealer that prepped your Corvette installed the center air dam in ERROR. Every Corvette gets shipped with the center spoiler in the loose parts bag. However only non-dry sump cars get the center spoiler installed. Why GM does this? I don't know, but clearly the penny pinchers missed this one and clearly the dealership personal do not read the important information on the PDI sheets.
The dry-sump cars need the air flow under the car for cooling (brakes, fluids, components). Why the base/non-dry sump cars do have the center spoiler is a good question, probably because it's the best combination of fuel economy, drag, lift, etc... Might have something to do with the softer ride and keeping the car stable at higher speeds.
The dry-sump cars need the air flow under the car for cooling (brakes, fluids, components). Why the base/non-dry sump cars do have the center spoiler is a good question, probably because it's the best combination of fuel economy, drag, lift, etc... Might have something to do with the softer ride and keeping the car stable at higher speeds.
Last edited by n8dogg; 01-17-2017 at 09:07 AM.
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Your C7 should ONLY have the center spoiler IF your car does NOT HAVE DRY SUMP. If your car has dry sump and you have the center spoiler, then the dealer that prepped your Corvette installed the center air dam in ERROR. Every Corvette gets shipped with the center spoiler in the loose parts bag. However only dry sump cars get the center spoiler installed. Why GM does this? I don't know, but clearly the penny pinchers missed this one and clearly the dealership personal do not read the important information on the PDI sheets.
The dry-sump cars need the air flow under the car for cooling (brakes, fluids, components). Why the base/non-dry sump cars do have the center spoiler is a good question, probably because it's the best combination of fuel economy, drag, lift, etc... Might have something to do with the softer ride and keeping the car stable at higher speeds.
The dry-sump cars need the air flow under the car for cooling (brakes, fluids, components). Why the base/non-dry sump cars do have the center spoiler is a good question, probably because it's the best combination of fuel economy, drag, lift, etc... Might have something to do with the softer ride and keeping the car stable at higher speeds.
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Le Mans Master
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Sooo this seems like a fairly legit question. What does the center air dam do, who isn't it on performance models and what impact does it have on aero?
#11
Melting Slicks
I think it's pretty self explanatory. There is an aerodynamic benefit of having the center spoiler, be it high speed stability, reduced lift or fuel economy. GM found that the Z52/more performance equipped cars have a greater benefit of not having the center spoiler by allowing air to flow under the car for a cooling affect and the aerodynamic goals are reached through other methods such as spoilers and ground effects.
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I think it's pretty self explanatory. There is an aerodynamic benefit of having the center spoiler, be it high speed stability, reduced lift or fuel economy. GM found that the Z52/more performance equipped cars have a greater benefit of not having the center spoiler by allowing air to flow under the car for a cooling affect and the aerodynamic goals are reached through other methods such as spoilers and ground effects.
As far as aero, they didn't do anything to the Z51 as far as front aero. Does the Z06/GS come standard with a front splitter? If nothing else, that seems off because it's dependent on getting a performance model/dry sump, not on getting an aero package.
It seems silly to think it had an aero advantage (as in lift/downforce) but they decided to just take it off to do it another way.
Last edited by village idiot; 01-18-2017 at 04:59 PM.
#13
Melting Slicks
They didn't do anything to Z51 with front aero but Z51 also has a rear spoiler, stiffer suspension and a rear stabilizer bar. The Grand Sports have a front splitter and side skirts as standard (stage 1). There is an oil cooler on Z52 near the engine block IIRC. Air is also needed under the car to cool the brakes, hence the scoops attached to the lower control arms.
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Correct. Your GS should not have the center spoiler. See the attachment. FYI Z52= Dry Sump
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Last edited by rb185afm; 01-20-2017 at 11:13 AM.
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Went to my dealer today about my center air dam being installed on my GS by them. I looked at 6 GS and Z06 cars on the lot and 3 had the center dam installed. The dealer said they install whatever comes with the car from the factory and some come with it in the trunk and some don't. I showed them the bulletin that n8dogg posted and after doing some research they said the forum is correct. No matter what comes in the car from the factory dry sump cars should not have the center dam installed. Whether it is for cooling or performance is no matter for me, I will follow the advice of the engineers at GM. Thanks to the Forum members for bringing this subject up and informing me of a problem with my GS.
Last edited by Bruce Jarrett; 01-20-2017 at 05:49 PM.
#16
Melting Slicks
Went to my dealer today about my center air dam being installed on my GS by them. I looked at 6 GS and Z06 cars on the lot and 3 had the center dam installed. The dealer said they install whatever comes with the car from the factory and some come with it in the trunk and some don't. I showed them the bulletin that n8dogg posted and after doing some research they said the forum is correct. No matter what comes in the car from the factory dry sump cars should not have the center dam installed. Whether it is for cooling of performance is no matter for me, I will follow the advice of the engineers at GM. Thanks to the Forum members for bringing this subject up and informing me of a problem with my GS.
My guess is that GM made a last minute decision to not have the center air dam installed and a contract was already signed with the supplier who makes the part. So all Corvettes come shipped with the spoiler in the loose parts bag, even tho GM found a greater benefit to not have them installed on the performance/dry sump models.