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Old 01-29-2018, 09:17 PM
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But will it better than 15w50 protection levels for the track?
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Originally Posted by Pacembellum View Post
But will it better than 15w50 protection levels for the track?
I'd imagine at some point there are diminishing returns on levels of protections. Stated better, I would say this obviously meets the requirements for track oil with the required safety margin or they wouldn't recommend it and risk warranty claims with an engine that costs $20K a pop.
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Originally Posted by erick_e View Post
Mobil 1 recently posted a new Safety Data Sheet and Product Data Sheet for a new "ESP formula 0W40" which differs from the old 0W40. Both are dated Jan 2018.
I don't think those are the specs on the new oil, they are still the specs for the European 0w40 ESP from Europe. Note that this oil does not have the dexos1 certfication required for the Corvette, it only has dexos2, and it mentions Opal and Vauxhall, two vehicles not available in North America. It is confusing though, considering that release is from Mobil 1 USA in Texas.

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Originally Posted by Patman View Post
I don't think those are the specs on the new oil, they are still the specs for the European 0w40 ESP from Europe. Note that this oil does not have the dexos1 certfication required for the Corvette, it only has dexos2, and it mentions Opal and Vauxhall, two vehicles not available in North America. It is confusing though, considering that release is from Mobil 1 USA in Texas.
Incorrect, read Tadges reply.. The 0w40 ESP Dexos2 is the new oil fill for Corvette.

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Originally Posted by Pacembellum View Post
But will it better than 15w50 protection levels for the track?
Although Tadge said they are still refining their recommendations for the LT5 in the upcoming ZR1, the released 2019 Corvette playbook recommends 15W50 for maximum track performance.


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So, unless I missed it somewhere, what aspect of the '19 engine is so stressed/fragile that it needs a uniquely formulated oil?
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Originally Posted by 69427 View Post
So, unless I missed it somewhere, what aspect of the '19 engine is so stressed/fragile that it needs a uniquely formulated oil?
you really missed it because the new formula is just designed for better overall protection and capable of daily driving along with track usage. It is also recommended for all Stingray Grand Sport and ZO6 of any C7 years.

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I think that now that more time has passed since the C7 first came out, they possibly realized the LT1 needs a slightly thicker oil even in regular street driving, so that's why they decided to not only put it in the 2019s but to also make it backwards compatible for 2014-2018. Maybe they tore down a few engines and saw slightly elevated wear and decided to nip it in the bud and make this change. I know that with my LS1 Corvette I saw lower engine wear numbers in my oil analysis reports when I switched to a slightly thicker oil (the German made Castrol 0w30 which was very close to actually being a 0w40 since it was at the very top end of the 30 weight range)
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Originally Posted by DWS44 View Post
As soon as 5 quart jugs of the new stuff show up at Walmart, I'll consider it. If I have to go to the dealer to get it, I'll stick to the good ole 5W-30.
hopefully Walmart doesnít sell an inferior version of mobile 5-30 synthetic.

Walmart is notorious for beating the hell out of its suppliers to get the lowest price and I know for a fact while looking the same suppliers provide an inferior product because Walmart squeezes their margins so much the suppliers will cut corners on products they supply to Walmart only. Walmart full on knows this in the negotiation process

having done business with Walmart hq in bentonville Arkansas I have no trust in anything they represent or do.

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Mobil 1 does not have a lower quality version of their oil to sell at Walmart, this is a false rumor. Mobil 1 would never risk their reputation for this. They address this in the FAQ on their website too. Also, I have bought most of my M1 from Walmart and have gotten oil analysis done each time too and can tell from those results that itís identical to M1 sold elsewhere

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Originally Posted by Zymurgy View Post
Member BEZ06 posted this info from a Mobil 1 presentation at the Rolex Corvette Hospitality Tent:
Still nothing available as of today. I just checked the part number and no availability as of yet... BTW, the part number GM lists for it is 19353135

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says ESP Dexos 2

looks like we have to buy from the UK lol

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It's available from Chevy dealers. Just had an oil change in my 2016 Stingray with the new 0w40 oil. The car is under warranty; Chevy paid for the labor but wouldn't pay for the oil, apparently they would only pay for 5w30 in my car. Dealership charged $11.32/quart for M1 ESP 0w40.
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Originally Posted by flyforfun222 View Post
It's available from Chevy dealers. Just had an oil change in my 2016 Stingray with the new 0w40 oil. The car is under warranty; Chevy paid for the labor but wouldn't pay for the oil, apparently they would only pay for 5w30 in my car. Dealership charged $11.32/quart for M1 ESP 0w40.
$11.32/qt???? Yikes!!! It must have gold flakes in it...
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So what about C5 and C6 models? Do we continue with the 5-30 or do we step up to the 0-40?
Interesting. I'm not convinced M1 5w30 is the best oil for my street driven LS7 C6 Z06 and would be open to this. Also, with a 2017 GMC Yukon Denali with the L86 6.2 calling for 0w20, I'd much rather go with the 0w40 and all the more so if Corvette/GM is recommending it for all the LT motors in the Corvette.

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Originally Posted by BigVette427 View Post
Interesting. I'm not convinced M1 5w30 is the best oil for my street driven LS7 C6 Z06 and would be open to this. Also, with a 2017 GMC Yukon Denali with the L86 6.2 calling for 0w20, I'd much rather go with the 0w40 and all the more so if Corvette/GM is recommending it for all the LT motors in the Corvette.
I believe the recommendation was for C7 only.
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Originally Posted by JumpingJackFlash View Post
I believe the recommendation was for C7 only.

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"It is a backwards compatible oil. That means that anything that has a Dexos rating...a previous model year corvettes...can handle the 0-40."
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Originally Posted by Clairvoyantwolf View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXfbT_vJhcw

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"It is a backwards compatible oil. That means that anything that has a Dexos rating...a previous model year corvettes...can handle the 0-40."
hummmmm....tell me why would someone want to spend $14-$15 for a quart of oil that they donít need when they could use a perfectly good oil that fulfills all manufacturerís requirements and they recommend and pay only $7-$8 dollars a quart for it? Seems like overkill to me. Iím confused.
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Originally Posted by JumpingJackFlash View Post
hummmmm....tell me why would someone want to spend $14-$15 for a quart of oil that they donít need when they could use a perfectly good oil that fulfills all manufacturerís requirements and they recommend and pay only $7-$8 dollars a quart for it? Seems like overkill to me. Iím confused.
For those that don't "need" it, indeed it doesn't make sense. For people, like myself, who track their car and want more high heat protection than the factory fill it is cheap insurance.
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