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Old 01-20-2018, 11:59 PM
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2000 yellow coupe. ABSS is out. How do I know exactly what part to look for and find someone to install it
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Post where your location, good likelihood that someone in your area can recommend a shop for the work. For the parts your best bets are to contact Marc and co. at vettenuts and/or post a want to buy listing on the parts page for used units. Used active handling EBCMs run north of a $1K-buck.
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Actually the non JL4 equipped cars have that button too. But it's labeled traction control, not active handling.


OP: Have you looked at the exact code it's throwing ?
A few weeks ago, while driving in the rain, I got the ABS/Traction Control light for the first time ever. I checked the code and it was for a wheel speed sensor out of range. I reset the code and it never came back. Probably anomalous. I'd make sure you really need another EBCM before you replace it.
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Originally Posted by Corvette#2
Actually the non JL4 equipped cars have that button too. But it's labeled traction control, not active handling.


OP: Have you looked at the exact code it's throwing ?
A few weeks ago, while driving in the rain, I got the ABS/Traction Control light for the first time ever. I checked the code and it was for a wheel speed sensor out of range. I reset the code and it never came back. Probably anomalous. I'd make sure you really need another EBCM before you replace it.
We took it to a Chevy dealer for repair. They said it needed the ABSS replaced and they couldn't get the part. This is my husband's car and he can no longer drive it because of health reasons. It is a beautiful 2000 yellow corvette with low miles. I thought about selling it but didn't want someone to buy it if was dangerous to drive. So I thought I'd try to get it fixed up then sell it. No other problems other than it needs new tires. Do you think someone knowledgeable in Corvettes would want to buy it and fix it. Like I say, I don't want to sell to someone who doesn't realize this could be a problem. The light ABS comes on with squiggles like like a car laying rubber - only way I know how to describe it.

Thanks again

I will look at the car lights more carefully to get code.
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Originally Posted by Ajrussell
2000 yellow coupe. ABSS is out. How do I know exactly what part to look for and find someone to install it
http://www.bba-reman.com/gb/content/...ll_other_types

I use these guys do good work and not a bad price to fix or even replace ABS and more ..
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Originally Posted by redzg
Post where your location, good likelihood that someone in your area can recommend a shop for the work. For the parts your best bets are to contact Marc and co. at vettenuts and/or post a want to buy listing on the parts page for used units. Used active handling EBCMs run north of a $1K-buck.
I am located in Tulsa, OK. Thanks for responding
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
There are no new Electronic Brake Controller Modules (EBCM) available for 1997 - 2000 C5's. The EBCM for those years are also NOT repairable. You may see advertisements by those that claim they can repair the 97 - 2000 EBCM but I suggest Caveat Emptor in dealing with such companies/individuals....

Your ONLY choices are :

1) Find a used EBCM that matches the type in your C5.
2) Upgrade the system to the 2001 - 2004 type system.
3) Live without ABS.

For choice 1 you need to know if your car has the Active Handling RPO. If your car has the button on the left in the following pic then you have Active Handling and need the EBCM referred to as the V Code.






If your car does NOT have the Active Handling button pictured above then you need the EBCM referred to as the M Code.

Choice 2 is only possible if your car has the V Code EBCM and is NOT inexpensive or easily accomplished. Here is a link about that upgrade:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...m-success.html


Option 3 may be the more practical alternative unless the state/Province that you live in requires the ABS system to be working in order to pass inspection.

Of course there is always the alternative to sell the car.
Thanks so much for your detailed reply. I worry about selling it because I'm afraid it could be dangerous to anyone who buys it. It is a yellow coupe with low mileage and other than this issue, I know of no other problem other than it needs new tires. It is my husbands car and he can no longer drive or deal with its' issues due to health problems. He has owned corvettes for well over 30 years and loves them. It has been sitting in the garage for at least two years with me starting the car or changing batteries as needed. I will consider the alternatives you suggested and also look in the area of Tulsa, OK for persons who work on cars.

Thanks again!
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If you plan on selling the car, I'd just sell it as is with full disclosure to the seller. I honestly don't think it's dangerous or that big of a deal to drive with inoperative ABS and active handling.

However I would pull the diagnostics code just to see what the specific problem is. I wouldn't trust a dealer. It very well could be a bad EBCM module, but it could be something else. Once you have the fault codes, post them here.

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Originally Posted by Ajrussell
We took it to a Chevy dealer for repair. They said it needed the ABSS replaced and they couldn't get the part. This is my husband's car and he can no longer drive it because of health reasons. It is a beautiful 2000 yellow corvette with low miles. I thought about selling it but didn't want someone to buy it if was dangerous to drive. So I thought I'd try to get it fixed up then sell it. No other problems other than it needs new tires. Do you think someone knowledgeable in Corvettes would want to buy it and fix it. Like I say, I don't want to sell to someone who doesn't realize this could be a problem. The light ABS comes on with squiggles like like a car laying rubber - only way I know how to describe it.

Thanks again

I will look at the car lights more carefully to get code.
First, the car isn't dangerous to drive without ABS. 99% of the time when you are driving you don't activate ABS. ABS keeps the wheels from locking up under hard braking or on slippery surfaces. This lets a driver attempt to steer around a problem while braking. However, most drivers just panic and drive into what ever is in front of them whether or not the ABS is working. When the ABS unit fails the car just defaults to driving like one that doesn't have ABS. If you are old enough you have plenty of experience driving cars without ABS because it didn't come into general use until the mid 80s. The cars built before then weren't dangerous because they didn't have ABS.

If the dealer said you needed a new module the only choice you have is to purchase a used module. There is nothing to say that 3 weeks after you spend a lot of $$ on the part that it won't fail or it could be bad when you receive it. Enjoy the car and don't worry about the ABS. If you don't want to see the light it might be possible to take the display apart and use some black paint to cover the light.

Bill
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn

If the dealer said you needed a new module the only choice you have is to purchase a used module. There is nothing to say that 3 weeks after you spend a lot of $$ on the part that it won't fail or it could be bad when you receive it. Enjoy the car and don't worry about the ABS.

Bill
Bill is 100% correct and now to put a "bummer" into the equation.
I have seen used ECBM units sell for up to $2000..yes you read that right and with no guarantee on the part because it's used.

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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Choice 2 is only possible if your car has the V Code EBCM and is NOT inexpensive or easily accomplished. Here is a link about that upgrade:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...m-success.html

You can do it on both. There are extra wires on the SWPS that can be used to wire the yaw and accelerometer sensors. You just need to wire those sensors and mount them in the stock locations.

The rear mount module cars are the ones that would be much more difficult due to the newer module only being front mounted and not fitting the older module bracket.

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