Does this amp set-up sound like it will work and be worth the work?


Okay, if I cannot sell my Orion HCCAs then I may have a back-up plan.

I have already purchased an eD NINE.2X so that will be used for my eD 8s which I have been told is a perfect match.

If I sell the Orions, then I will buy a NINE.4 and use it for the fronts. My current fronts are Boston 1” tweeters and 4” mids, along with a pair of Boston 5.25 running as a midbass. Then plan being to give the 5.25” separate channels and ditch their passive crossovers.

In the current config I think the load to the Amp is 2ohm per side, where the Orion theoretically is putting out 50x2 @2ohm, although I heard it might be a bit more (closer to 80w).

Now assuming the Orions do not sell I thought about using both and having them setup in a mono configuration, one amp for the right fronts and the other for the left fronts. In this configuration the amps would be essentially in 2ohm Mono and according to the way I understand the Orions are rated, it should be close to 200W. The problem with this is having 3 amps in the car. And finding places to install them.

I am thinking the Orions on the floor, the eD on the back wall and some sort of cover over the amps so I can still put stuff in the back if needed.


Any thoughts? Of course if the Amps sell then this is not an issue.

 

got ur PM but figured it was kinda late to give u a call... Your idea of using both amps will work ive been there and done that

 

Thanks Bro/. yeah after 9pm might wake the little ones.. even though it is my cell, I tend to talk loud.. LOL

would the above set-up be better then a newer NINE.4?

but after I posted this I got a few offers on the HCCAs and they might be sold I am trusting your judgement.. Let me know what will work

Thanks man

 

nine4 will prly work better but either way u would be good

 

Cool.. makes me feel better about the parting of my HCCAs.

 

Jeff...it would be great to see you get that NINe.4 I want to check it out in person as I may use one in the Chevelle. You have a great car...I really liked the changes you have made to it. It'll be neat to check out the upgraded stereo at our next event.

 

Hey Dave, what kind of power are you running to you compnents again?> I forget the wattage, I know you have PG amps though

 

I have my amps bridged and so they are putting out 150w RMS to each set of components.

 

Thank you!!! gives me an idea of power level I need

I am waiting to hear from one guy about the amps.. we have settled on a price.. just the matter of getting paid.. then removing them

I am starting to think my components will be holding me back.. If I get the eD 6000s V2 (6500s are a bit more then my budget) those will work well.

I still think I would get the NINE.4 for the components just incase I decided to change something later.

Now I need to find out the cuft area of the Stock rear location ( I think they are too big for the 8s.. LOL)

 

Jeff...

I think those 6000s components will be just fine and sound great. I also think the NINe.4 amp will be great. It is good to have too much clean power than to be underrated and risk driving your amp into distortion.

What is your plan? Are you looking at using channels 1 and 2 for the components and then 3 and 4 for the 8's? Or bridging the NINe.4 to just the components? Or something else entirely...

Hope you can get the sale of your old amps completed real soon.

 

Initial plan:

USe the NINE.4 to drive my current components. Since the 6000s are not out yet. Channels 1/2 for my 1" and 4" channel 3/4 for the 5.25s. Who knows that might sound just like I want it to.

I have a NINE.2x on the way to run the 8s.

then if I go to the 6000s or some other 2 way.. I will probably bridge the NINE.4 to run them. Using the 4 channel just gives me more options if I ever change thigns around. it is also more power then the NINE.2 in bridged mode

 

Jeff....sounds good. I bought my 4 channel amps for reasons along the same lines as you. I wanted the option of later on not using the supplied passive crossovers with my components and go to powering each speaker independently and using an active crossover.

 

Yes, you are correct. Your Orions will put out 200 watts rms in that situation. That is PLENTLY of wattage for those speakers. That way you don't have to sell them.
There is benifits to going with the ed amp too. The cosmetic reason is one of them.
What it really boils down to is that it is your prefence, either way will work. If it was me, I'd probably use the Orions

 

Cool.. I will need to see if they are sold. LOL.. if I got payment they will be gone.

But how much do the passives eat up as far as power is concerned?

then if i keep the orions and switch to on set of Comps, I am only at 4ohm mono which is less power

I guess there are + and - to all options

 

I did a quick re-wire of my Orions last night..

both are now mono one for each channel, it does not look the prettiest, but I wanted to try it..

Seems a bit better, Although I did not drive it yet to see if it truly is better. I am still waiting to hear from one guy, he seemed in a rush 2 days ago and now nothing.. I have 3 other interested in the amps.

I just don't know where I would install everything if i kept the Orions int he car.. with 2 amps it is easy, they will be on the back wall. if 3 then I run out of space fast.

I am starting to think that it is more my components rather then the Amp powering them.. if i went to 2 ways, I would lose power on the orions due to going from 2 ohm to 4 ohm..

Ah well.. One of these days I will have it all figured out.

 

Another amp Configuration Idea.

I got my NINE.2X yesterday, man that is a hefty amp, looks good too..

Assuming I keep the Orions, heck what is one more amp right? lol.

I was thinking use the 2x on the fronts ( I know it will kill them I am guessing) then use one orion in 1ohm mono for each sub.. this way I am using all amps at there full potential.

Also I was reading the book with the 2X in there it lists the NINE.4 as 50x4 but the eD website is 65x4 Either way I am guessing that will be close to the power of my Orions in there current form.

 

Are those subs dual 2 ohm voice coils? If so....sweet

 

Yes Dual 2. I was running them as Series-parallel to one amp Mono.. for a 2ohm load

This would work well, but I got an offer for both amps that i might not be able to pass on..

Also what would be the best Xover freq for the subs..

I will have the sub amps rca off the subwoofer output of my Nak but there is no Freq setting.. I have a 100hz F-mod now which is too high IMO. I was thinking 80 or 85hz but only one I can find is 70hz

 

F-mods, those are old school too? I haven't seen those in a while but I know i have a set myself. Do you have a problem with voltage drop across them?
With 5.25" woofers up front I would start at 100 Hz and go from there.

 

WOrks for me.. DO I have a problem with a voltage drop as in seeing one? or they just inherently have one?

not too big of an issue for me.

Now to find a spot for all the stuff.. LOL