Hello everyone, I was trying to get some information on putting a system in my 1993 Corvete. Keep in mind I am an audio newb, and cash is an issue being that I'm a 20 year old Part-timer, and fulltime college student.

I wanted to put in a Pioneer AVH-P4000DVD touch screen, being that it is a double din. From my understanding, not alot of modification is needed to put this in-dash in. Any thoughts? I want it to look as STOCK as possible without anything sticking out. (Keep in mind i'm going to have a shop putting everything in)

Also, is it possible to run this head-unit with the existing Stock Bose speakers? I do plan on changing the speakers out as well, but I'd prefer taking everything one step at a time that way I can get my cash right.

Regardless, I want to put in component speakers in the front and rear with the best fit that way I can keep it looking as stock as possible.

With that said, I'd like to put in 5.25" fronts and whatever will fit best in the rear.

I'm one of those brand guys, so I'd like the front and rears, or everything to be the same brand. I Just want it to sound better than the stock Bose system at an affordable cost without having to have a crap aftermarket system.

I was looking at Infinity Reference 5 1/4" 5020cs's for the front, and 6020cs's 6 1/2" for the rears.

I would be buying everything off ebay because of the cheaper prices.

I have no intentions of putting in subs, so some quality affordable speakers with some bass would be best.

What about an amp? Would I have to use an amp with component speakers?

Sorry for so many questions, but I am paranoid about the whole installing a system thing and any advice would be VERY MUCH APPRECIATED

 

I'm not a C4 guy, but I might be able to help.

I don't know of any issues with guys installing a 2DIN HU in a C4. I believe that there is an issue where you throw a code light on, but it is easily fixed using a resistor. (I think it's covered in the C4 FAQ.)

I'm not sure of the depth of the dash... maybe someone can chime in to tell you if it will be an issue. (I'll be helping a friend do a C4 install soon... I hope to document it and share the knowledge here.)

For the price of the adapters to connect your stock system to the Bose, you are probably better off installing new speakers and getting rid of the Bose completely.

If you don't plan on an amp, then stick with co-axial speakers in the stock locations. If you plan on adding an amp, then look to component speakers. While you can run components from a HU, I wouldn't recommend it simply because you won't ever have enough power to drive them properly.

That being said, decide what you want now and work towards it. If you want good tunes now and are on a budget, just get a decent set of coaxial speakers and install the HU and speakers at the same time. If you want an amp and components, then just wait to install the system.

Yea... I know. Having new kick a$$ equipment sitting there waiting to be installed can cause you to have 'the itch' but unless you like re-doing the speaker wiring and opening up the dash again...

As for the same brand... I don't know if that is as important as you might think. I use the same drivers when I am designing/building home audio speakers, because I want the same tonal quality from L - C - R. The surrounds are more 'ambient' and not as directional, so they aren't as important. In a car, where the speakers are different sizes and perhaps different materials, it's not going to matter much.

If it were me, I would use some adapters and run a good set of 6.5" components up front. Get a decent amp to drive them. Skip the rears for now and see if you miss them. If you do, then get an inexpensive set of co-axial speakers and run them off the head unit. If you decide that you want more power to them, then connect them to an amp. (Or to your 'main' amp if you bought a 4-channel.)

I run fronts and a sub. Nothing else. I don't miss the rears, but your experience may be different.

One more thing: If you can get the extra cash, invest in some sound deadening. I damped my front doors and the difference was amazing. LOTS more bass from up front.

Hope this helps.

Mark

 

I have the same speakers that you are looking at, and they dang near REQUIRE a sub. They are great speakers but are lacking in the bass. I would get 4 alpine Type R speakers with a 4 channel amp if you don't want to put a sub in.

 

Thanks for the help guys

I guess I would have to add an amp which isn't that big of a deal, Possibly put it under the passenger seat?

Any other speaker recommendations that don't need alot of modification if any, that will allow me to listen to music without adding a subwoofer?

Adding Compenents to the front and rear and that 2Din head unit means new wiring through the car right?

If I bought the speakers and head unit, how much do you guys think a shop would charge to install everything.

Sorry for the crap questions, i'm just one of those gotta ask away guys

 

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=941281

Did you read the link above?

If I were you, I'd buy the best speakers I could afford, and then get a good four way amp. If you read the FAQ, you will see that rear speakers are a waste, just wait and get a couple of 8" subs. They can be installed in the factory locations, so that everything will be completely stealth.
Shops can be expensive, why not do it your self? If you have any questions after you read the FAQ, just ask, we are here to help.

Randy

 

Yes i've read it, it helps to an extent. By buying the best speakers do you mean buying Coaxial or component?

Any recommondations on speakers for the front? I like the stealth idea, it's exactly what I mean.

Keep in mind I don't want alot of Bass, I just want it to be evened out which I'm sure i can control with the equalizer built into the in dash.

I have made up my mind though on the HU. I will def. purchase the Pioneer P4000DVD

 

I guess I'm going to go with components in the front and 8" subs in the rear.

I was looking at some PIONEER TS-SW841D subs for the rear, what do you guys think?

And I want some good component speakers in the front with the best fit without modifying.

Could I buy one amp to power the subs and speakers together? And how many watts would the amp have to be.

Sorry, i'm a newb

 

Take a look at the Alpine PDX series of amps. A 4 x100 would be fine for what you want to do. As for speakers, the 5.25 components would be the easiest to install. Pioneer Premier line of speakers is nice, Focal is best. Take a look on line, Ebay is a good place to get an idea what speakers cost in the real world, if you find something that looks good, do a Google search of it. When you see whats out there come back and ask what we think, most people here will have heard just about everything out there.

Randy

 

^ Thanks for the info I have had a great experience with premier products in the past, plus my OCD wants me to stick with the same brand as my HU, pioneer.

I've come up with these speakers so far, if you guys would be as kind to give me your opinions.

Infinity Kappa 507CS 5.25" Components for the front

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-INFINITY-KAP...QQcmdZViewItem

8" Infinity Subwoofers in the rears

http://cgi.ebay.com/INFINITY-850W-80...QQcmdZViewItem

Amp? Recommendations for this set if indeed the set is good?


OR

PIONEER TS-C130R 5.25" components for the front

http://cgi.ebay.com/NU-PIONEER-5-25-...QQcmdZViewItem

8" Pioneer Premier TS-SW841D Subwoofers for the rear
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-TS-SW841...QQcmdZViewItem

Again, Amp recommendations for this set?


Any help or opinions would be appreciated. THANKS!

 

As for subs, read this thread: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1884460

As for the component speakers, I would go w/ the Pioneers, they get great reviews over on DIYMA forum.

As for reading about car audio, go here: http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/index.php


Let us know what you decide. If you can, find a store near you that sells car speakers and give them a listen.

Randy

 

Went to both, the other forum was more helpful than the thread. I didn't understand what they were talking about in that topic, as far as specs etc.

Would those Pioneer subs be good for the enclosure in the rear? Also does the amp have to be 100x4? They are really expensive especially the Alipine.

I found this Pioneer Premier amp 75Watts X 4 RMS, how would it run with the pioneer components in front and subs in rear?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-PRS-D410...QQcmdZViewItem

 

Check out this set of amps, good stuff and good pricing.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2036636

The Pioneer amp would be fine for the front speakers, the subs may need more power, depending on which ones you buy.

Randy