Anyone Not Running Rear Speakers
#1
Burning Brakes
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Anyone Not Running Rear Speakers
I am going to revamp my whole stereo system in my frc. The stock bose is garbage and I'm done with it. I'll pull everything out and save it in a box, in case I sell the car and new owner wants everything original
I will be adding new front component speakers, a new headunit, a sub amp and subwoofer, along with an eq. Does anyone not run rear speakers in their C5 custom system?
Btw, I'm not buying a whole new stereo system. 80% of it I already had stored in my bedroom. I use to be a hardcore audiophile. Why not throw it in the vette?!
I will be adding new front component speakers, a new headunit, a sub amp and subwoofer, along with an eq. Does anyone not run rear speakers in their C5 custom system?
Btw, I'm not buying a whole new stereo system. 80% of it I already had stored in my bedroom. I use to be a hardcore audiophile. Why not throw it in the vette?!
#2
Drifting
I thought about doing it. After all, you want a front soundstage and there isn't any backseat or backseat passengers. I ended up going with rear speakers though and used my 4 channel amp for the fronts and the rears. I can tell you this much, when I turn the rears off I really miss them. My system is adjusted so that the rear speakers are fill and I have always done my high end car audio systems that way, still with the front as the primary soundstage and I guess out of habit I just really like the sound set up that way for me personally. I think plenty have opted out of rear speakers though and a system with just front speaks in a C5 tuned correctly would sound great and you would never miss the rears if they weren't there in the first place.
I am in your hardcore audiophile camp and had the same thing, a bunch of really nice gear from the early 2000's so all I really needed was a head unit to update to double din. My system sounds freakin' awesome in the Vette and I am so glad I did it. Don't forget sound deadening and more sound deadening if you do it!
I am in your hardcore audiophile camp and had the same thing, a bunch of really nice gear from the early 2000's so all I really needed was a head unit to update to double din. My system sounds freakin' awesome in the Vette and I am so glad I did it. Don't forget sound deadening and more sound deadening if you do it!
#3
I run rear speakers, they are subwoofers, and play from 20-80hz. I don't run any speakers in the rear that plays above 80hz.
To create a realistic concert environment, rear speakers are not required and they are not recommended. Instead of front &rear speakers, I went with an active two-way system. This allowed me to double the quality of the speakers in the front and double the amount of power to the speakers.
To create a realistic concert environment, rear speakers are not required and they are not recommended. Instead of front &rear speakers, I went with an active two-way system. This allowed me to double the quality of the speakers in the front and double the amount of power to the speakers.
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Music is only recorded in two channels and the cabin in a Corvette is so shallow that there is no benefit to trying to fill a nonexistent rear seat. I saved the money on the rears and put it toward a higher quality front stage.
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no rears here
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Race Director
I replaced my.rear speakers with subs in my c4 as well. The front speakers in the c4 kinda suck, but overall it sounds good for being a real bargain basement priced setup. I think I have 400 bucks in the whole thing.
#11
I am considering replacing the rear speakers in a C6 convertible with subwoofers of the same size, in the same location. I assume that this is a good way to go, as it is the way my current car is set up and I think it sounds great. The C6 currently has a Bose NAV unit. Does the Bose system have an amplifier that can be wired to handle the subwoofers if I replace the head unit with a new Kenwood, or is a new amplifier required?
#12
Le Mans Master
Struggling with this question too. My issue is I have AMAZING audio gear, but I've never installed it in my ZO6 before. I had a custom box built for a JL 10W7 and 2 JL amps. A 500/1 for the "dub 7" and a 300/4 for the speakers. This setup sounded INCREDIBLE in my cobra. But the Z is much smaller inside. I wonder if the "dub 7" is too much sub for the car and I won't like it. That being said, I think I would NEED 4 speakers (pointing at the center of the car) to "compete" with that dub 7 hammering away. Thoughts from the community?
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The single 10" in a typical rear corner enclosure will NOT overpower your component speakers in a C6. The cabin gain isn't as great in the C6 for bass as it is in many other cars. You will get adequate bottom end fill, but don't expect it to pound with only 500WRMS. (I had a 500/1 on a 10W6v2 and ended up changing to a 15" driver)
Adding your rear channels will only make this worse. They are relatively close to your head and do a good job of making clear music muddy due to location. Concentrate on having a good quality installation of the front mids (reinforced baffles, rear wave isolation) and you'll be happier with the sound quality.
Adding your rear channels will only make this worse. They are relatively close to your head and do a good job of making clear music muddy due to location. Concentrate on having a good quality installation of the front mids (reinforced baffles, rear wave isolation) and you'll be happier with the sound quality.
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Le Mans Master
The single 10" in a typical rear corner enclosure will NOT overpower your component speakers in a C6. The cabin gain isn't as great in the C6 for bass as it is in many other cars. You will get adequate bottom end fill, but don't expect it to pound with only 500WRMS. (I had a 500/1 on a 10W6v2 and ended up changing to a 15" driver)
Adding your rear channels will only make this worse. They are relatively close to your head and do a good job of making clear music muddy due to location. Concentrate on having a good quality installation of the front mids (reinforced baffles, rear wave isolation) and you'll be happier with the sound quality.
Adding your rear channels will only make this worse. They are relatively close to your head and do a good job of making clear music muddy due to location. Concentrate on having a good quality installation of the front mids (reinforced baffles, rear wave isolation) and you'll be happier with the sound quality.
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#15
Drifting
Respectfully asking...have you ever heard a 10W7 on even 300W? And keep in mind, this isn't a typical "stealth box" type setup. This is a custom fabricated speaker enclosure specifically designed to run a 10W7. It would damn near knock the fillings out of your teeth when I was running it in my Tahoe...at like 250W.
I have 2 10's in rear corner sealed enclosures and I can vibrate the mirror on the vehicle next to me.
And..I still like my rear speakers!
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#16
Le Mans Master
For sure NOT run of the mill! Most other subs including other JLs don't hold a candle to a dub7!
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For sure NOT run of the mill! Most other subs including other JLs don't hold a candle to a dub7!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWSRZsW-R1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWSRZsW-R1A
#18
Le Mans Master
Yes it does. So many people get bent around a "big sub" rattling their car apart. That's not what an over engineered sub is about. I wouldn't have this thing on kill at all! Hell...it would take the wind out of you in something as small as a corvette if you put the beans to it. But in the same sense, why do corvette guys run HUGE solid cams or huge nitrous shots in street cars? It makes no sense because it's WAY overkill 99.99% of the time. Just like a "dub7"...way overkill. BUT! That .01% of the time...MURICA!
These do sound very clean at lower power/gain levels...especially in a sealed box. But it's also nice to know that your little 10" sub can out hammer that rattle trap that just pulled up next to you with a damn marching band and eight "15's" in the trunk. Corvettes are supposed to be refined American sports cars. Why not have refined American subwoofers to go with them?
EDIT: and keep in mind, everything other than specific cameras do a horrible job of recording bass frequencies, so in videos like this you get a misrepresentation (acoustically) of what this will sound like. I promise you, these things ROCK in person. Best sub (by far) I've ever owned.
These do sound very clean at lower power/gain levels...especially in a sealed box. But it's also nice to know that your little 10" sub can out hammer that rattle trap that just pulled up next to you with a damn marching band and eight "15's" in the trunk. Corvettes are supposed to be refined American sports cars. Why not have refined American subwoofers to go with them?
EDIT: and keep in mind, everything other than specific cameras do a horrible job of recording bass frequencies, so in videos like this you get a misrepresentation (acoustically) of what this will sound like. I promise you, these things ROCK in person. Best sub (by far) I've ever owned.
Last edited by Pb82 Ronin; 03-27-2018 at 08:38 PM.
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Respectfully asking...have you ever heard a 10W7 on even 300W? And keep in mind, this isn't a typical "stealth box" type setup. This is a custom fabricated speaker enclosure specifically designed to run a 10W7. It would damn near knock the fillings out of your teeth when I was running it in my Tahoe...at like 250W.
When it gets down to the physics of SPL, you need power, cone area and displacement. The W7 has a longer xmax, but that only buys you so much if the cabin is canceling part of it out mechanically. My W6v2 cone was moving plenty at 500wrms, yet the perceived output was lower to me than I knew it was capable of in another car. I was fighting the physics of the cabin in the C6. Moving to a larger cone (1 single 15" has double the effective area of a single 10") with comparable xmax, in a ported enclosure, running the same 500wrms helped. Part of my solution included building the enclosure to put the source (cone) in a location that isn't fighting a null in the cabin. This meant going form a corner enclosure to one where the cone was more centered under the rear glass. This helped a LOT.
#20
Le Mans Master
Yeah, my W7 is pointed straight at the back glass. Should be crazy enough for a ZO6.