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Old 08-01-2006, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ZR1 MK
I would like to have a real time data system. Thats the ultimate.
There may be dedicated set-ups for a reasonable price or you could look
into adapting an exhaust temperature gauge from a two stroke.
Snowmobile and ultralight parts wholesalers carry these.

I once used a dual readout gauge mfgd by Westach on a sled. Here
is a 2" analog unit from Aircraft Spruce: $109 and it should fit in an
Autometer Pillar Pod.



Dennis Kirk lists dual digital gauges and a selection of analog units



Dataloggers like the G2Extreme from Racepak have provisions for
various temperature sensor inputs.

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Old 08-08-2006, 11:05 AM
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Do you have some picture more than the kit?
Is the support disc included?
Old 08-08-2006, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank12
Here's the Mid-America kit installed

Do you have some picture more than the kit?
Is the support disc included?

It would be very grateful of any additional information.
I want to install a system of refrigeration of the breaks.

Thank you
If by support disk, you mean the spindle duct out by the hub, no. I just has the new front spoiler and scoops and hoses, which are NOT high temp

http://www.madvet.com/shop?frame=3.3979
The kit is a good start, run thier hoses up to the a-arms, then run some high temps out to the brakes.

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Old 08-19-2006, 07:21 AM
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Since you didnt get any replies, I guess we have dont have results. I would be interested as well.
I have a tremendous amount of temp data aside from the brakes including a vast list with things like muffler tips to wheels, but one area that I never checked was with and without duct temps. I have always used 3" ducts on all my cars and it would be easy to just block them, but track time is too limited and I wouldnt want to take a chance on overheating the brakes.
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In your web there is a picture with the 2 ducts of 3",
I have updated to a dual intake scoop for this year with the second duct going to the caliper.

One that is for the brake=Caliper and does the other one go up so that it is?
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Old 08-21-2006, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank12
One that is for the brake=Caliper and does the other one go up so that it is?Frank
The question is confusing, but I have one duct that goes to the rotor as pictured and another duct that goes to the caliper. The pictures showing the caliper where taken without the duct in place for the caliper. I can take pics if interested.
Old 08-21-2006, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ZR1 MK
The question is confusing, but I have one duct that goes to the rotor as pictured and another duct that goes to the caliper. The pictures showing the caliper where taken without the duct in place for the caliper. I can take pics if interested.

Yes please you send me some picture.
I have the same idea:
One duct goes to the rotor and another duct to the caliper,
I will also mount 2 X 2" hoses to get less squishing going through the suspension components.
Duct hose comes in 300ºF degree quality.
Will 300 suffice in your opinion?
Old 08-21-2006, 12:23 PM
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Ill take pics tonight and send tomorrow. I have used the single layer neoprene (Bultler brand) and double layer neoprene (Allstar brand). The Butler is corrugated and Allstar is smooth inside. Smooth is a bit better for flow. 300 degree rating is fine.
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ZR1MK, that ducting system is perfect! Is Butler the duct manufacturer or supplier? I have the same wilwood system on my car and have been using standard HRP 3" ducts, but they end up hanging lower than the spoiler. They always end up getting filed down during heavy braking from hitting the track surface!

You're my hero on those rotor ducts! I've been wanting to make up a set just like it (including the little extension for a tie-rod end shield). Too little time, too lazy
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I've got my car back now guys, and I'll be working on my own brake ducts. I also know Gary (Hardbar) Hoffman, so we can get them developed for market if there's enough interest.
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Originally Posted by MarkBychowski
ZR1MK, that ducting system is perfect! Is Butler the duct manufacturer or supplier? I have the same wilwood system on my car and have been using standard HRP 3" ducts, but they end up hanging lower than the spoiler. They always end up getting filed down during heavy braking from hitting the track surface!

You're my hero on those rotor ducts! I've been wanting to make up a set just like it (including the little extension for a tie-rod end shield). Too little time, too lazy
Butler is the brand/manufacturer. HRP orange hose is a single layer silicone. I prefer the double layer (wire between two layers) hose. Silicone is rated at 500 degree, but the 300 rated neoprene is fine.
My hose insnt lower than front spoiler. How do you have yours installed?
Thanks for compliments .
For reference, I use urethane tie rod dust boots that resist heat better. Stainless steel is a far superior heat shield, but its nice to have the heat shield for the tie rods part of main shield, rather than a riveted seperate piece. It works for me.
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Originally Posted by Frank12
Yes please you send me some picture.
I have the same idea:
One duct goes to the rotor and another duct to the caliper,
I will also mount 2 X 2" hoses to get less squishing going through the suspension components.
Duct hose comes in 300ºF degree quality.
Will 300 suffice in your opinion?
Frank
Send me your email to mrk@donaldsonacoustics.com so I can send you the pictures.
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Originally Posted by ZR1 MK
My hose insnt lower than front spoiler. How do you have yours installed?
The ducts are bolted to the spoiler and also to the bumper using one of the spoiler bolts. They're up as high as they will go, but they still hang about 3/8"-1/2" lower than the spoiler. Problem is the inlet of the ducts are taller than the spoiler (basically the wrong ducts for the application). Coupled with my soft '96 springs letting the car nose-dive a little too much in severe braking.
I need to measure my spoiler and check out the butler ones, looks like they'll fit better.
Thanks!
Old 08-24-2006, 08:45 AM
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My duct scoop flange is taller than the spoiler and does need to be trimmed. About 3/8"-1/2" on the top and also on the bottom. Than heated to bend for the slight curve.
Old 10-27-2006, 11:22 AM
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I looked at Danny's brake temp setup and he actually has a thermo couple in the bottom of the brake bleeder for fluid temp and it also has one in the center of the pad to get actual surface temp. Lots of cool stuff!



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