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LMP1s to be closed cockpit by 2010?

Old 06-17-2006, 06:02 PM
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http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...d=2216&thold=0

Hoping for a Chevy-powered Riley LMP1

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"The chassis is designed to accept twin turbo V-8's, as well as normally aspirated V-8 and V-10 engines.

Customer support from Riley Technologies, including an expanded parts division, will be available for the new Le Mans Protoytpe car.

The cost of the new Riley Mk.XIV Le Mans P1 chassis is $675,000, without engine and electronic systems. Delivery can start as early as November 2005, depending on order date. "

Ok I found my new car
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It looks like the old GTP/Group C cars such as the Pratt & Miller Katech powered Intrepid
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This or the Riley?

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Not quite as strange looking as the Daytona prototypes. Is this the 1st step to merging the two series again in the US?

There doesn't seem to be as much talk about merging the two prototype&GT series as there is about needing to merge the two open wheel series.
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I highly doubt the ALMS and GARRA will merge. The DP rules are fixed until 2010.

It is a fact that Champ Car and IRL are talking.

Kevin Kalkhoven at the 90th Indy 500

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto...ndustry/22207/

The following quote is taken from this Champ Car Article

Champ Car co-owner Kevin Kalkhoven was Indy Racing League founder Tony George's guest at the 90th Indianapolis 500 but it was all social and no business.

"I had a very good time, it was a great race and Tony was a very gracious host," said Kalkhoven, who got up at 4 p.m. in his San Jose home, flew to Indy and then jetted right back to California after the race.

Kalkhoven, who has been meeting with George for the past four months about unifying open wheel racing, had not been to the Indy 500 since Graham Hill's victory in 1966.

New Champ Car chassis links

http://www.champcarfan.com/n1011054001.shtml

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/champcar/21601/
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Originally Posted by micro
I highly doubt the ALMS and GARRA will merge. The DP rules are fixed until 2010.
I agree. ACO and ALMS have NO SPEC engines and are open on other items as well. GARRA has spec engines and arnt't they slower then even the LMPGT2 cars?

But it does give the GARRA DP manufatures another market for cars.
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The fastest DP in qualifying last month Laguna Seca was the # 23 Porsche Crawford with a 1:25.014.

http://grandamerican.com/Events/Sess...?SessionID=663

The # 23 911 GT3 RSR had a qualifying lap at the same track last year with a 1:25.406

http://www.imsaracing.net/2003/event.../ALMS_Qual.pdf

I'd love to see a Chevy-powered Riley LMP1.
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Is wikipedia correct on this information?

"The LMP1s will also feature smaller rear wings in an attempt to slow the cars down. A key element of the 2010 LMP1 regulations is that the cars will have to feature design cues borrowed from a manufacturer's production cars, thus eliminating privateers and leaving LMP1 to be purely a manufacturers battle."

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Mans_Prototype

http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=526&Itemid=28

Above article translated from german

On a press conference, the ACO introduced today new specification for the LMP-Reglements of the coming years. Accordingly LMP1 with closed Cockpits should begin may in four years only at the Sarthe. The ACO hopes for itself officially in view of the participation standing in outlook by Audi, Peugeot, Porsche and Honda a higher sign identity of the vehicles if one binding purports the closed structure. Simultaneously the stern wings should by a standard-construction how it is presently in the FIA-GT in the circulation, in its effectiveness restricted become in order to limit the round times. The LMP2-Klasse is not concerned of these changes – here may begin also further open prototypes.

The announced changes of produced directly speculations why the ACO yet before the exclusive taking effect of the LMP-Reglements in the year 2007 (this year are yet LMP900/675-Hybriden permitted) this direction one new now gives. Perhaps one is surprised unpleasant that the announcements of the manufacturers regarding closed prototype, that are looked at by the ACO and the fan more spectacularly than the LMP´s, yet no deeds followed. Neither the R&S of yet the Epsilon Euskadi (picture) were realized presently and decided both Audi, Porsche, Courage and Lola on an open variant (also if latter nominally optionally a closed version in the offer have). Therefore is certain now that the Top-class also only a Reglementskontinuität will have of three years.

http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...d=531&Itemid=1

Above article translated from german

Lola reacted as one of the first manufacturers to the announcement of the ACO regarding closed prototype from 2010 and published today Renderings of the B10/10. At the same time it concerns already optionally offers the closed variant of the B06/10 already available today, the Lola. Lola-boss-engineer Julian Cooper means in addition: „We worked already already for some time at the Coupe-version of the LMP1-Lolas and trust on that that it is an interesting project for our existing and also for new customers. We would intend to spend further time in our wind canal in the near future and to push the development now more quickly because we had already inquiries for the closed version. It is obviously that the ACO more manufacturer in Le Mans in the future would like to see and we become then in the situation be, to offer an unfangreich tested and full developed Chassis.“

Presently the teams of Dyson (2 vehicles) and Chamberlain with LMP1-Versionen of the B06/10 are underway. Acura-Honda has a LMP2-Version of the Lola-Chassis for the next year in the USA geordert. There one vorhat to climb with the Evo-version of the Honda-motor long-termed into the LMP1-Klasse, would be allowed to be this the first speculative customer for the closed version of the Lola.

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damn that Lola is a good looking car, and it is YELLOW

What power plant ?? AER twin tubo 4.6l V8, Judd V10 ??
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I like the DP engine rules, they should be used in more series, but those prototypes leave a lot to this person's eye

To square a roofline, to short in length.

Something like the old IMSA GTP cars now
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Originally Posted by BrianCunningham
I like the DP engine rules, they should be used in more series.
are just plain slow compared to the LMP1, & LMP2 cars. Heck most of the ALMS/ELMS GT2 cars are faster then the Grand am DP cars
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The ELMS, the European Le Mans Series only lasted for one season, 2001. The Le Mans Series has the same cars as the ALMS, but with 1,000 km races.

Another article on the Lola B10/10 with a bigger picture

http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...e.php?sid=2238
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
are just plain slow compared to the LMP1, & LMP2 cars. Heck most of the ALMS/ELMS GT2 cars are faster then the Grand am DP cars
But LMP cars also weigh less, and have a lot more downforce.
You can make them just as fast with stock blocks, you just need to manipulate the rules for the complete package, then you'd have somthing that would be easier to sell to manufacturers. The Audi's are great cars, but have they really had any competition??
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Originally Posted by BrianCunningham
The Audi's are great cars, but have they really had any competition??
Only rarely. The Peugeots are coming next year though.

Dyson Racing won twice last year with their Lola and a Zytek 04S won at Laguna Seca. Panoz won a race in a few years ago.

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