NCCC classing
09-16-2007, 06:09 PM
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NCCC classing
I've been running SCCA solo2 since 2000 but in two weeks I'll do my first official NCCC event. I'll be joining the NCCC at the event so I don't have a rule book yet and could use a lot of help figuring out their classing. I did a lot of searching online and could not find something definitive. I have an 01 Z06 with T1 sway bars, Koni 3013 shocks, zip-tie mod, harness bar with 6 point harness, and V710s on stock sized wheels.
09-16-2007, 07:17 PM
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the T-1 bars put you in group 3 where you do not want to be without further modifications.
replace the bars with the stock bars, if the shocks are adjustables then replacewith 04 Z 06 shocks and run group 1
replace the bars with the stock bars, if the shocks are adjustables then replacewith 04 Z 06 shocks and run group 1
09-16-2007, 09:25 PM
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Or, you could do like I do. Build your car the way YOU want it, and then just run Exhibition class. I've been doing that for twenty years. There's no sensible class for my cars (turbo C4 and a C3 with a five speed). I don't give a rat's *** about points, and as long as I'm paying the bills, the car gets built the way I want it.
Your choice. Your car the way you want it, or your car the way someone else says it should be.
Just my opinion.
Your choice. Your car the way you want it, or your car the way someone else says it should be.
Just my opinion.
09-16-2007, 09:51 PM
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Or, you could do like I do. Build your car the way YOU want it, and then just run Exhibition class. I've been doing that for twenty years. There's no sensible class for my cars (turbo C4 and a C3 with a five speed). I don't give a rat's *** about points, and as long as I'm paying the bills, the car gets built the way I want it.
Your choice. Your car the way you want it, or your car the way someone else says it should be.
Just my opinion.
Your choice. Your car the way you want it, or your car the way someone else says it should be.
Just my opinion.
09-16-2007, 10:58 PM
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Best advice that can be given is do what you want. If you want competition find the biggest class and get a car for it. If you just want to have fun run what you brung in EX.
RP permits just about any corvette bodied car to run. So your statement of "Corvette Parts or else'' is stretching it a little.
09-16-2007, 11:11 PM
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I should have been more clear. I have absolutely no interest in setting my car up for NCCC classes, as my local chapter does 1 event a year. I just needed to know where my current mods placed me. Exhibition class it is. 
Good to know I would need a rollbar for Group 3 as I was rumored I would be placed.
I am in the early process of cutting the car from SS to SM2 due to making the car more fun on the track. So over the winter that means Radiator with EOC, headers with xpipe and no cats, tune, etc. I've lost interest in setting my car up for strict autocross classing, SCCA or NCCC, but I still love participating.
Good to know I would need a rollbar for Group 3 as I was rumored I would be placed.I am in the early process of cutting the car from SS to SM2 due to making the car more fun on the track. So over the winter that means Radiator with EOC, headers with xpipe and no cats, tune, etc. I've lost interest in setting my car up for strict autocross classing, SCCA or NCCC, but I still love participating.
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09-16-2007, 11:30 PM
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I should have been more clear. I have absolutely no interest in setting my car up for NCCC classes, as my local chapter does 1 event a year. I just needed to know where my current mods placed me. Exhibition class it is. Good to know I would need a rollbar for Group 3 as I was rumored I would be placed.
I am in the early process of cutting the car from SS to SM2 due to making the car more fun on the track. So over the winter that means Radiator with EOC, headers with xpipe and no cats, tune, etc. I've lost interest in setting my car up for strict autocross classing, SCCA or NCCC, but I still love participating.
Good to know I would need a rollbar for Group 3 as I was rumored I would be placed.I am in the early process of cutting the car from SS to SM2 due to making the car more fun on the track. So over the winter that means Radiator with EOC, headers with xpipe and no cats, tune, etc. I've lost interest in setting my car up for strict autocross classing, SCCA or NCCC, but I still love participating.
Best of luck to you! It's fun to run a vette course with all vettes running.
09-17-2007, 10:18 AM
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"Any Corvette or aftermarket if same size, shape and type mounting that came on any Corvette except no mixing of bars between" generations, and "Can be heim jointed. No adjustable mount"
I've always been confused on the "no adjustable mount" part, I assume "mount" is the mounting to the frame, not the end links. I assume that if heim joints can be used that they could be adjustable.
The new rulebook looks like it is going to allow anything:
"Any diameter sway bar allowed. May be Heim jointed. May have adjustable sway bar end-links." Groups 2+
Although I wouldn't assume the new rule is going to stay that way until the book is printed.
09-17-2007, 06:17 PM
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The current rulebook says for Goup 2
"Any Corvette or aftermarket if same size, shape and type mounting that came on any Corvette except no mixing of bars between" generations, and "Can be heim jointed. No adjustable mount"
I've always been confused on the "no adjustable mount" part, I assume "mount" is the mounting to the frame, not the end links. I assume that if heim joints can be used that they could be adjustable.
The new rulebook looks like it is going to allow anything:
"Any diameter sway bar allowed. May be Heim jointed. May have adjustable sway bar end-links." Groups 2+
Although I wouldn't assume the new rule is going to stay that way until the book is printed.
"Any Corvette or aftermarket if same size, shape and type mounting that came on any Corvette except no mixing of bars between" generations, and "Can be heim jointed. No adjustable mount"
I've always been confused on the "no adjustable mount" part, I assume "mount" is the mounting to the frame, not the end links. I assume that if heim joints can be used that they could be adjustable.
The new rulebook looks like it is going to allow anything:
"Any diameter sway bar allowed. May be Heim jointed. May have adjustable sway bar end-links." Groups 2+
Although I wouldn't assume the new rule is going to stay that way until the book is printed.
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I should have been more clear. I have absolutely no interest in setting my car up for NCCC classes, as my local chapter does 1 event a year. I just needed to know where my current mods placed me. Exhibition class it is. Good to know I would need a rollbar for Group 3 as I was rumored I would be placed.
I am in the early process of cutting the car from SS to SM2 due to making the car more fun on the track. So over the winter that means Radiator with EOC, headers with xpipe and no cats, tune, etc. I've lost interest in setting my car up for strict autocross classing, SCCA or NCCC, but I still love participating.
Good to know I would need a rollbar for Group 3 as I was rumored I would be placed.I am in the early process of cutting the car from SS to SM2 due to making the car more fun on the track. So over the winter that means Radiator with EOC, headers with xpipe and no cats, tune, etc. I've lost interest in setting my car up for strict autocross classing, SCCA or NCCC, but I still love participating.
09-17-2007, 08:15 PM
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That was my point; acrace asked if they would be ok for 2, and I posted the current G2 rule regarding the diameter to answer him that they would not. I'll be more clear in the future.
09-17-2007, 08:50 PM
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Thanks. I'd say the same for the SCCA and PCA here. So many people that hate to lose more than they like to play...go figure. Sadly so much so that an average regional driver like me can still top 5 PAX even horribly misclassed in SM2 with the above mods.
09-18-2007, 12:23 AM
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The biggest problem with the NCCC classing is there are too many classes. They need to cut out about 90% of the classes. Most of our events end up with one competitor in each class so the running is for FTD instead of class wins as the class wins mean nothing.
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09-18-2007, 12:33 AM
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The biggest problem with the NCCC classing is there are too many classes. They need to cut out about 90% of the classes. Most of our events end up with one competitor in each class so the running is for FTD instead of class wins as the class wins mean nothing.
Bill
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but running for FTD is what it is all about
