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Old 07-29-2008, 03:45 PM
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Cobalt Racing Brakes, a leader in race brake pad design, working with GM has now a one piece, larger brake pad for OE Z06 calipers.

Tired of the OE 'padlet' designed brake pads for your Z06? Cobalt has just finished their one piece replacement pads for your OE calipers. No modifications are required and these are a direct drop in replacement. More surface area gives you better stopping and longer pad life. Pad taper will also be reduced now as well.

Pricing is expected to be released later this week with compounds in both the GTS and XR2 material to be carried on the shelf.

Pads are shipping to us now, and I will have pictures as soon as they land.

Great news for open track guys!!
Old 07-29-2008, 06:43 PM
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Pretty cool, would like to hear some feedback
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Are they retaining the middle pins meaning the pads have 2 holes in them?
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Cobalt was working with GM on these pads, and one of the design parameters was to retain the caliper as is.
Old 07-30-2008, 10:12 AM
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Sounds like a good idea. The more pad volume (not just area) the better. I would really like to know the weight of one of these versus 3 of the padlets, that would give an idea of the relative % increase in pad. Any pics?
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Yep, retains all of the pins. If you have a stock car, and you have these pads, you need nothing but the tools to remove the old pads and put these in. No mods, no pin deletion, no nothing
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Originally Posted by ghoffman
Sounds like a good idea. The more pad volume (not just area) the better. I would really like to know the weight of one of these versus 3 of the padlets, that would give an idea of the relative % increase in pad. Any pics?
I'll have pictures as soon as they land. They are in route now.
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sounds promising....are the pads thicker then stock?
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Originally Posted by Oyishdog
sounds promising....are the pads thicker then stock?
i doubt they could be. Pad thickness is pretty much determined by the caliper.
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I wonder why the need/desire to retain the middle pins?
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Originally Posted by Oyishdog
sounds promising....are the pads thicker then stock?
No way to go thicker without doing either a wider caliper or narrower rotor.
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You are grip limited in the front with the tires as it is, but it was a GM requirement to leave ALL of the pins, which is fine with us.

More pins distributes the load more evenly across all of them, not one or 2 pins like other brands.
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Originally Posted by Louis @ LG Motorsports
You are grip limited in the front with the tires as it is, but it was a GM requirement to leave ALL of the pins, which is fine with us.

More pins distributes the load more evenly across all of them, not one or 2 pins like other brands.
Fair enough, hopefully all the time was spent making sure the central pins are not a source of binding/harmonics etc.

Interested in the price and avilability when they become available.

Maybe the ZR1 calipers will make a sensible upgrade down the line - as those are 1 piece pads out of the box right?
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Originally Posted by Louis @ LG Motorsports
Yep, retains all of the pins. If you have a stock car, and you have these pads, you need nothing but the tools to remove the old pads and put these in. No mods, no pin deletion, no nothing
They would need to retain the stock pins as 90% of C6Z owners (like me) have frozen/stripped pins in each caliper.

I was able to get the pins in and out for the fist season with high temp anti-seize before they simply stripped or siezed in place. I have pins that turn and won't come out and pins that are stuck and look like Micheal Jackson's face. They were just not made for more than about 4-5 brake pad changes at best and the soft nature of the metal turns them into worthless junk.

I just don't understand why PBR didn't design the calipers with traditional removal bridge. That would have made these calipers a real winner for how much they cost.

Not to put you on the spot Anthony, but how much?

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Not to put you on the spot Anthony, but how much?
As soon as I know final pricing from the guys at Cobalt I will let everyone know. Yesterday when I was talking to him, he had just finished up the Part Numbers.
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Definitely sounds interesting...can't wait to hear more.
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I heard from another vendor that keeping all of the pins caused the pad to get "jammed" in place as it is energized by the rotor.

Regardless, I'm hoping this works out.

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Old 07-30-2008, 04:35 PM
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I can tell you that Cobalt, having brakes on the GM factory teams, our WC program as well as our GT2 program, knows what they are doing.
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Hello,
Any photo's of the pads, can you post them to this thread?

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Originally Posted by davidfarmer
I heard from another vendor that keeping all of the pins caused the pad to get "jammed" in place as it is energized by the rotor.

Regardless, I'm hoping this works out.
This is what I was wondering about with this design - I have wondered why GM insisted that the centre pins have to be retained?? It would seem pad material would accumulate in the cavity, unless the holes are so big they allow the material through, which furher reduces the surface area.

Are there any other brake setups on the market withguide pins through the center of the brake pad?

It would be interesting to know the results of any testing that was done with short "blank" pins in the center and only the end full guide pins in place.


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