klasik-69

Oct C & D just did an article on the GT-R and its real HP vs Nissan's claimed 480 since things didn't add up, something all of us have been saying for some time. The Z06 is the real thing. However, it seems Nissan numbers weren't. C & D found the HP to be closer to 520 based on RWHP figures and assumed losses. Kind of makes sense now, 800 lbs heavier, more friction in an AWD and less HP doesn't make for a faster car than the Z06. Amazingly, One Lap of America results didn't make a very good case for the GT-R, especially considering it was driven by a very experienced Nissan driver.

Mojave

Who knows what real customer GT-R's actually make. I think all the test cars were ringers.

Automobile: 11.6 @ 126 mph
Car & Driver: 12.6 @ 111 mph

Where in the world did Automobile find 1 second and 15 mph of trap speed on a car with AWD and launch control!?!? In a car that heavy, that is around 125 hp difference. Nissan admitted cheating on the 'ring test with slicks and more boost; how many other tests were done with non-stock cars? I can't wait to see actual customer ET's and trap speeds, and I think they will be mid to high 12's at under 115 mph.

robvuk

Nissan admitted cheating? Please point us to a link for that source. This is the first I've heard of this. We've all said it but I didn't know it was an admitted fact.

John Shiels

no matter what they claim say or do with ringers it still comes down to the track when they start to appear. At near 4,000 pounds when one was weighted at the track and a higher CG they will need a ton of HP. I would like to see the times of a stock one at tracks we all know. They have hyped them to gain sales and publicity or I guess they have found some thing in physics no other manufacturer has been able to find.

dvandentop

there is a local one here in town cant wait to see it at the road course if they ever take it there.

Timz06

There was one at Road Atlanta running time trial. I think he ran 1:38 - 1:39, which is comparable to a fast c5 z06.

Tim

John Shiels

if he is a capable driver I guess the hype will be ending soon.

tmak26b

Most drivers at local events are not race caliber drivers, you have to be careful of who you compare it to.

AU N EGL

Most 'local' drivers know a particular track. SO YES those would be good comparisons.

bgreen83

Did all the rags and shows say that with all the computers on the GTR it made it seem like anyone could push the car?

heavychevy

There was one that just recently went to gainesville drag strip and trapped a highest of 114, with a fastest of 12.0. The reality of it is that the car is a 115-116 average trap, and 118-119 in great conditions. About the same as a C5Z.

The GT-R that ran at Road Atlanta did run a 1:36. But stock 996 GT3's run 1:37.


Never with any car have I seen a 10-13 mph between claimed trap speeds by mags, and the real world. That's like a C6Z trapping 114-117. And this car is supposed to eliminate the driver error factor.

klasik-69

There's no way to know for sure what they have. The first couple of cars that were run and tested were likely hand-built ringers. If I were introducing a new car to a very competitive market, I'd sure make sure the initial reviews would be good. Physics is an exact science, and its laws are universal no matter which side of the Pacific you're on. 4000 lbs takes a certain amount of power to move, turn and stop, and it will always be easier to push around 3100 lbs than 4000 lbs. I'm not even going to mention the GT-R is dog butt ugly (what the Hell were they thinking ?).

I'm grateful to Nissan, they got me started with Corvettes by selling me a 1990 300ZX that had so much go wrong, it made me mad enough to stop at the chevy dealer........and I never looked back either. Every time I get in my Z06, I just thank my lucky stars. Also, when I accelerate, it doesn't sound like a cat farting !

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vette6aut0x

I put down a 134.3 in my brothers 08 c6 with r6s if that tells you antything in tt at the same event.

vette6aut0x

I think the GTR only turned a 138.

iced98lx

Really? Haven't seen it around... billion boys own one?

heavychevy

He ran a 1:36.8. William Taylor.

http://mylaps.com/results/showrun.jsp?id=918379

John Shiels

to bad they don't tell you the car type there

Timz06

The track was also fast that day. I ran a 1:38.8 in my camaro

heavychevy

Oh beleive me, that's nothing spectacular from a car that's supposed to be CGT/GT2 fast. Stock 996 GT3's run 1:37's and I know Reese ran a 1:36 in a C6Z for a mag article prior to repave. I know a couple guys running 1:34's in stock 997's GT3's as well. A buddy of mine ran a 1:38.0 in a Evo with a flash and street rubber.

It's not bad, and from what I hear the guy was a former pro motocross guy (As was my friend in the Evo, who was first time at Road Atlanta).