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Old 08-20-2016, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
I think the very first thing you should do to a C5 before you even attempt to track it is remove and clean the radiator.

These cars are old enough now and have been driven enough that I bet 75% of them need the radiator pulled and cleaned as general maintenance.

Then you should keep it blown out as maintenance.


my first C5 Zo6 had heat problems when i first bought it used. looked in radiator area found it full of tumbleweeds FULL! amazing it ran as cool as it did !

So yeah everyone check radiator when they first get a Vette!!

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Any helpful hints with regards to power steering? I'm running a 305 square Pirelli take off set, and about mid way through each 35 second run I'm getting fading from the power steering. It'll come back after a few minutes of waiting for the next run, and then sure enough it's gone half way through the next run again. Suggestions?
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Any helpful hints with regards to power steering? I'm running a 305 square Pirelli take off set, and about mid way through each 35 second run I'm getting fading from the power steering. It'll come back after a few minutes of waiting for the next run, and then sure enough it's gone half way through the next run again. Suggestions?
Put in Redline synthetic oil.

If it doesn't have a cooler, put a Z06 cooler on it. If it has a cooler, clean the outside fins.

Have the pump revalved for $100 from PSC.http://www.pscmotorsports.com/
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Thanks! I'm pretty sure the power steering fluid was synthetic already, but I'll drain and try something different. Just going to be a couple months before I take it out to another event, and if I had to do something like pull and send out the pump to have it re worked, this would be a fantastic time to do it. I drive the car pretty hard, and I know the pump was suffering. Just don't want to rely on the simple thing of fluid before next event unless it's supposed to pretty much definitely take care of the issue. I have a C5 Z, so that should have a cooler already right?
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Thanks! I'm pretty sure the power steering fluid was synthetic already, but I'll drain and try something different. Just going to be a couple months before I take it out to another event, and if I had to do something like pull and send out the pump to have it re worked, this would be a fantastic time to do it. I drive the car pretty hard, and I know the pump was suffering. Just don't want to rely on the simple thing of fluid before next event unless it's supposed to pretty much definitely take care of the issue. I have a C5 Z, so that should have a cooler already right?
Yes, I would clean the coolers fins.
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
Put in Redline synthetic oil.

If it doesn't have a cooler, put a Z06 cooler on it. If it has a cooler, clean the outside fins.

Have the pump revalved for $100 from PSC.http://www.pscmotorsports.com/
with all above. you have no idea how good Redline is, it is magic! make sure you flush the power steering system before you change it,

flush it every season!

and I am pretty sure you need a new power steering pump. might as well get the new one re valved too!

one more tip that really works wonders is to move the reservoir away from the engine. that really helps keep fluid cooler
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Originally Posted by carlspeed
Thanks! I'm pretty sure the power steering fluid was synthetic already, but I'll drain and try something different. Just going to be a couple months before I take it out to another event, and if I had to do something like pull and send out the pump to have it re worked, this would be a fantastic time to do it. I drive the car pretty hard, and I know the pump was suffering. Just don't want to rely on the simple thing of fluid before next event unless it's supposed to pretty much definitely take care of the issue. I have a C5 Z, so that should have a cooler already right?
Driving hard on the track during hot ambient temps will drive a corvette owner nuts. At least it did for me until I put in a Setrab oil cooler. Easy to install and there was room in the engine bay of my C6. With temps over 100 F at Thunderhill it works for me.
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
No way I'd run that seat
FFB,

Can I ask why you say this? Am curious.

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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
Put in Redline synthetic oil.

If it doesn't have a cooler, put a Z06 cooler on it. If it has a cooler, clean the outside fins.

Have the pump revalved for $100 from PSC.http://www.pscmotorsports.com/
What's the reason for the revalve? What does it change? Feel or what?
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What's the reason for the revalve? What does it change? Feel or what?
I never noticed a change in feel, I did notice a change in the heat in generated.

At really low speed it made the car slightly harder to turn, more noticeable when cold out.
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A big hearty thank you Zenak for all your time, energy and experiences that you shared with us! I have read this thread twice taking notes each time. Such a tremendous source of important info!

Thanks again!

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A big hearty thank you Zenak for all your time, energy and experiences that you shared with us! I have read this thread twice taking notes each time. Such a tremendous source of important info!

Thanks again!

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Hey man, little guy from the future here (8 years after original post, wow). This post has been incredibly useful for me. I have just started HPDE and have used this thread as a guide. I have started by doing as much reliability mods as I can affoard (RD radiator, DRM trans and diff coolers), and some comfort mods (track seat), then seat time (two sessions every monday and every track day in the weekends).

My next mods will be anything I can do to reduce ongoing costs (tire wear, brake cooling).

Regardless, thank you for writing this.

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Originally Posted by carlspeed
Any helpful hints with regards to power steering? I'm running a 305 square Pirelli take off set, and about mid way through each 35 second run I'm getting fading from the power steering. It'll come back after a few minutes of waiting for the next run, and then sure enough it's gone half way through the next run again. Suggestions?
My track day friend has a C5 coupe - mine from the same year is an FRC. He mentioned to me that he boiled his PS fluid and had to pay to have a PS cooler installed - then proceeded to show me that the FRC comes with one - which at the time I did not know....
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I'm headed to a track day on Sat - mostly stock FRC (headers, flip-tie mod, ECS tune, Hawk pads/Centric slotted/cryo-treated rotors/braided brake lines) - I noticed last time that the brake fluid reservior was pretty hot after a run - I searched for cooling tips but couldn't find any - what about soaking a towel in ice water then just wrapping it around the reservoir?
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flush the power steering system and replace it with redline power steering fluid. Another cheap permanent fix is to move the reservoir away from the engine. Also you can add a bottle of Lucas oil, but if you drive in the snow etc it might freeze up lol I am in AZ don't have that problem
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Originally Posted by rustyguns
flush the power steering system and replace it with redline power steering fluid. Another cheap permanent fix is to move the reservoir away from the engine. Also you can add a bottle of Lucas oil, but if you drive in the snow etc it might freeze up lol I am in AZ don't have that problem
What he said, redline, also if the rack has never been rebuilt, may be tine.

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Even though this thread is older than one of my kids - I just CAN'T stop reading it !!
I have nothing to contribute nor would I pretend to. But to those that did - Especially Zenak..... You get a Big Fat 'Atta-Boy' !!
I would think the OP either ended up with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome or Forearms like PopEye. Lot-O-Work got done here - THANK YOU!
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thanks for the inspiring thread.

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Echoing a "Thank You!" to Zenak for the HPDE thread write-up. I feel like I'm 20 years late to the prom but I'm just now able to afford (in time and money) the C5 and the parts I've wanted since the car came out when I was in college. This thread is one of the most comprehensive and useful at generating ideas and important information for new C5 owners to begin with the end in mind. . . and save a lot of money from being wasted on silly useless mods. So here is a bump to the top and a cheers to the C5 owners that have contributed here, and to the future of the C5 that is still coming of age for guys like me just now getting into auto-x, drift, track and touring for the first time 23 years later!

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