C6 Heel - Toe tips?
#21
Racer
You are correct about using fine muscle for fine control in a car. This also applies to things such as steering...pull down with the hand closest to the apex(right turn, pull down with the right arm) and only use the other hand to assit and stabilize.
Four-time F1 World Champion Alain Prost also advocates this approach to steering input. See Senna's Principles of Race Driving and Prost's Competition Driving.
#24
Melting Slicks
I have very narrow feet and the stock pedals are just a touch too far apart for me, so I made a slight mod. Here's the video I made of my C5, and my new C6 is identical and works perfectly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIivg...=youtube_gdata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIivg...=youtube_gdata
#25
I went out and sat in the car to check where I place my feet. My right foot is in line with the gas pedal, heel resting on floorboard. I can easily pivot and pick up the inside of the brake, and roll the gas by moving my knee.
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Everyone's foot width and shoe width varies, just because some can reach both pedals easily, doesn't mean that goes for everyone. Even though I CAN reach both pedals, I can only barely do it, certainly not well enough to be confident at all times so I use a brake pedal extension so I can safely roll the ball of my foot to the accelerator for a perfect rev match everytime.
And this one will only take you one time before you do something about it! I have slipped my foot off before, years ago in another type of car, got it caught UNDER the brake pedal and on TOP of the accelerator, you talk about a white knuckle ride until I got my foot out of there, giving it jabs of throttle until I did...and of course I was supposed to be braking instead. The exact reason we sell the brake pedal extension with a side plate and with an abreviated corner so the roll is easy. Simple design, works like a champ! The only thing that could be improved beyond this is the DRM piece like what captain454 suggested or a spacer under the extension. One of the 2 will go on mine this winter.
Edit: Here's a link to it.
http://speedsouth.com/srg_southern_r.../i-294331.aspx
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Elite Throttle Pedal and SRG Brake Pedal. I mounted the SRG pedal thru the holes versus using the straps that came with it. That mounting method does tilt the pedal a couple of degrees but it gives me a greater sense of security. The pedal can still be adjusted closer to the throttle pedal by moving mounting screws to the left 1 more set of holes.
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Elite Throttle Pedal and SRG Brake Pedal. I mounted the SRG pedal thru the holes versus using the straps that came with it. That mounting method does tilt the pedal a couple of degrees but it gives me a greater sense of security. The pedal can still be adjusted closer to the throttle pedal by moving mounting screws to the left 1 more set of holes.
#31
I'm definitely not an expert myself, but when I've had professional race drivers get in my car and drive it, they are able to heel-toe perfectly pretty much right out of the gate. I don't think they have had much experience with stock pedal setup in my C5. So, maybe practice is the best advice..
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Fred
#33
Melting Slicks
There is no substitute for seat time/practice...but comfort is a key component to the car. Every driver/body is different. If the driver is not comfortable, then you have to make adjustments until you are - period. That includes the seat, belts, helmet and yes, pedals too...whatever it takes. If heel-toe shifting is a distraction, fix it! If you are more comfortable with a bigger brake pedal (like I am), and it takes away a distraction, then that's a good thing.
The same can be said with the handling of the car, etc. If the car is oversteering/understeering too much for your comfort, fix it.
The same can be said with the handling of the car, etc. If the car is oversteering/understeering too much for your comfort, fix it.
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There is no substitute for seat time/practice...but comfort is a key component to the car. Every driver/body is different. If the driver is not comfortable, then you have to make adjustments until you are - period. That includes the seat, belts, helmet and yes, pedals too...whatever it takes. If heel-toe shifting is a distraction, fix it! If you are more comfortable with a bigger brake pedal (like I am), and it takes away a distraction, then that's a good thing.
The same can be said with the handling of the car, etc. If the car is oversteering/understeering too much for your comfort, fix it.
The same can be said with the handling of the car, etc. If the car is oversteering/understeering too much for your comfort, fix it.
#35
The trackpedal was delivered today, well it certainly makes a difference. I had some dry practice in the garage, it's snowing here, and I must say that it helps me just that much that I can now heel and toe without being a contortionist.
Fred
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#36
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There is no right/wrong answer. I agree with Chris, comfort is key. You just don't want to be distracted by anything.
I run the Elite heel/toe wide pedal, I've gotten used to it, if I was doing it again, I'd just get their standard pedal (which is wider than the stocker).
I will say shoes play an important role. I have some old RJS I like better than my Piloti's, but the RJS are so uncomfy for walking around the paddock the rest of the time, I can't stand wearing them all day.
Left foot braking is on my 2010 "things to practice" list
I run the Elite heel/toe wide pedal, I've gotten used to it, if I was doing it again, I'd just get their standard pedal (which is wider than the stocker).
I will say shoes play an important role. I have some old RJS I like better than my Piloti's, but the RJS are so uncomfy for walking around the paddock the rest of the time, I can't stand wearing them all day.
Left foot braking is on my 2010 "things to practice" list
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I looked through the posts and don't think these have been provided yet (sorry if they are repeats). These videos helped me with two different techniques.
Got to love this classic from Senna even if you don't roll the foot....the loafers help :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8By2A...eature=related
This is the classic "bleep with the heel" video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZe...eature=related
I roll my foot (with a gas pedal extension) in the C5, roll my foot (with no extension) in the Miata, and use my heel in the 911.
Got to love this classic from Senna even if you don't roll the foot....the loafers help :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8By2A...eature=related
This is the classic "bleep with the heel" video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZe...eature=related
I roll my foot (with a gas pedal extension) in the C5, roll my foot (with no extension) in the Miata, and use my heel in the 911.