SIK02SS

I think around that time I had emails going across the pond to AP to help me figure out a package, copied Gary on one, and Gary's response was basically cease and desist bc he's on it

ghoffman

BTW, email is the best way to get a hold of me, I only check the IM's here once in a while, but I see the emails on my iPhone4 right away. Thanks everyone for the good comments and orders!

racerx8

Jeez Gary now I've gotta break open the piggy bank...
Great looking brake package, as usual Great stuff from HARDBAR I'm in for T-1 fronts then rears when available

ghoffman

Thanks! We really are into technical superiority. Check out the rotor's 70 fins for much improved convection coefficients (as compared to a typical 36-40 vane rotor). This means that the rotor is able to have much improved heat transfer. It is not just about "more airflow", it is more like a 4 row radiator versus a 2. Air molecules are very small, they do not need 1 inch fin spacings to get airflow through. If you ever see an air cooled aircraft engine, you will see many thin fins, closely spaced. The limit is the ability to cast iron with thin, structurally sound, fins with thick rotor faces. The casting quality of this AP rotor is amazing, especially at this price. Also, check out the video, you can see the the security and symplicity of the "captured" fasteners that is an integral feature of the hat that makes rotor swaps fast and easy without clips, springs, wire, etc.

John Shiels

You definitely have the market by the nuts now! Rears soon?

Anyone install them on a C6Z yet?

ghoffman

Yes, the rears will be a smaller piston version of the same. Guess who's C6Z will have them soon?

John Shiels

GH ?

rasrboy

Gary,
Is this T1 front kit for 17" or 18" wheels. If 18's i'm out, just can't swing 3 sets of new wheels.

Great looking set up buddy!

Aaron

CP Thunder

Aaron,

I have been told these will work with many 17s. Just not the CCW Classic.

I like the new wheels Oli is testing (with this setup) SWEET!!!


Gary,

The Penskes landed today!!! Will call you next week and talk dyno sheets. Thanks for the blazing fast shipping!!

rasrboy

Thanks Steve! Figures, I have 3 sets of classics! What brand and cost is Oli using?

CP Thunder

http://949racing.com/17x10-6ULR-Charcoal.aspx

Much cheaper than CCWs but price isn't posted yet (I don't believe).

ghoffman

Even stock C5Z wheels will fit.

rasrboy

I have a set of 4 18X10.5 Z wheels, just wish SCCA would approve these for us T1 guys and gals as they are cheap and easy to find.

Aaron

fatbillybob

You guys should talk to oli. I know oli tested the wheels but not with the brakes because iirc they were not available yet. I also think the link is for 17x10" wheels and the ones oli tested were 18" special order as a test with offset needed based on just doing some math aka I think it fits.

I have my T1 car on the lift now and waiting for my brakes to arrive.


I'll have the calipers installed in an hour and post back pics with how far off the 17" ccw is and how it looks with rear C5Z06 18" wheels on front which the SCCA CRB will not allow to be run for some reason. So that means we need to find a 18 x10" wheel and it looks like it is the 949 wheel or the forgelines that chris R has. Any others?

Originally I had the bright idea of seeing if the 17x10 ccw could be converted to 17x11 by changing the replaceable barrel then front wheels could be converted to rear use. Then if John had a 18" ccw that looked close to the ccw race wheel we could match that with Gary's brakes. This way we only needed to buy front sets of wheels. John was silent so maybe he has nothing that will come close to fitting.

fatbillybob

Aaron,

I tried letters to crb. You may have seen the denials in fastrack. Maybe if others like yourself ask they will approve. CRB said they did not fit. I sent them pictures. Then they just denied them. I said nothing is more in the T1 class philosophy than a stock wheel on the car. They denied it. I told them we can keep max front tire size the same width. Denied anyway. Go figure. If we keep asking maybe we will get somewhere. Rear wheels are so cheap too. It would make a perfect way to ramp up for eventual purchase of good wheels. It is just hard to come up with cash for great brakes AND wheels. I'm going to illegally run my rear wheels on front for now. The 949 wheels will not be available until late this year anyway. I have not seen the brakes w/ forgelines on Chris's car yet but we think that is an option.

ghoffman

Well that is the key point here. There are alot of cheap wheels that will work it is a CRB approval that is the roadblock.

fatbillybob

Hey Gary,

Stop posting on CF. Put my brakes in a box and get them to fedex. I can hardly wait for my new jewels to come in the mail. Oh..... and send me the "good set" I'm up against stiff competition with Dr. Benne and company. I need an edge!

All the Best,

Doc in PV.

ghoffman

I would but I am on Cape Cod with family and only have my new iPhone4. The caliper adapters will be done Monday afternoon then they go to the anodizer shop later in the week. Roy has to ask Nancy's permission to get this system....

SIK02SS

forgeSTAR

drbenne

Gary knows me too well. I am sending all my new stuff to where my car lives to avoid my boss noticing new boxes arriving at home. I am still awaiting a more cost affective wheel to present itself before I make the swap. Until then, all you big brake guys will have to give up 50 Lbs to me and hope I don't have brake problems when I am behind you going into a corner.

Oli already knows how risky that can be.

Roy