Where to find good shock design / build data
08-02-2010, 02:46 PM
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Racer
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Where to find good shock design / build data
Does anyone have any recommendations on where to find data on shock design guidelines, especially for autocross? I have gone through DG's autocross web page, and Penske's web site. These were very helpful but I would like to better understand the detail.
08-02-2010, 11:17 PM
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Racer
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Does anyone know of any books which cover the details of shocks?
I'm interested in learning about things like:
Piston Bleed Settings. What is the practical range of jet size?
Pro's & Cons of linear vs. digressive compression curve.
Also, is a good list of the available bump stop compression curves?
Any other information pertient to autocross shocks would be great!
Chris
I'm interested in learning about things like:
Piston Bleed Settings. What is the practical range of jet size?
Pro's & Cons of linear vs. digressive compression curve.
Also, is a good list of the available bump stop compression curves?
Any other information pertient to autocross shocks would be great!
Chris
08-03-2010, 03:57 AM
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Safety Car
If you find anything, I'd like to know, too. It's called "black magic" mostly because those with the knowledge have built it based on experience and testing. Your best bet is to get real chummy with a proper shock guy and pick his brain.
08-03-2010, 09:50 AM
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Good luck! Shock design is a closely held secret since it's one of the few things that varies between stock class cars.
Start with Sam Strano and Guy Anikey (sp?) for some ideas with Koni's. The late Joe Stimola was well respected with Penskes, I'm not sure if his old company is being picked up by anybody.
Start with Sam Strano and Guy Anikey (sp?) for some ideas with Koni's. The late Joe Stimola was well respected with Penskes, I'm not sure if his old company is being picked up by anybody.
08-03-2010, 11:09 PM
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Le Mans Master
From a post made in 2006
When an author starts citing quartic equations, I know I am in the deep
end of the pool. While there is lots of math, this is still a highly readable
book in my opinion. It does not look at or compare commonly available
brands, so look elsewhere if you want to be told whether to order QA1's
or Koni. However, if you want to know about the inner workings of
shocks and don't mind working a bit, Dixon is your man.A quick check shows that the title is out again as a 2nd Edition
The Shock Absorber Handbook
2nd edition (November 9, 2007)
Wiley-Professional Engineering Publishing Series
ISBN-10: 047051020X
Price: $96.00
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The Shock Absorber Handbook
by John C. Dixon
ISBN: 0768000505
Price: $69.95
by John C. Dixon
ISBN: 0768000505
Price: $69.95
end of the pool. While there is lots of math, this is still a highly readable
book in my opinion. It does not look at or compare commonly available
brands, so look elsewhere if you want to be told whether to order QA1's
or Koni. However, if you want to know about the inner workings of
shocks and don't mind working a bit, Dixon is your man.
The Shock Absorber Handbook
2nd edition (November 9, 2007)
Wiley-Professional Engineering Publishing Series
ISBN-10: 047051020X
Price: $96.00
.
08-04-2010, 09:52 AM
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ANZE Suspension has a pretty good track record with RR (a lot of Phoenix cars use them). But I'm guessing that your looking more at someone more specialized in AutoX. Worth a shot.
08-04-2010, 10:37 AM
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08-04-2010, 11:43 AM
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Richard is absolutely awesome to talk with, and he is very wise and knowledgeable, but I feel guilty taking too much of his time on the phone.
