What clutch for about 500rwhp and doing some RoadRacing/HPDE
10-23-2010, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mcar00 View Post
I don't believe that road racing/HPDE puts a whole lot of stress on a clutch. I've run for 3 years (40 track hours) with 500+ RWHP with the stock clutch and never had an issue. They are inexpensive and work well on the street also. I think it's the launching and speed shifting at a dragstrip that really abuses a clutch.
you two guys need to run harder, longer and hotter in the Arizona heat
but you are right the stock clutch should last around 30,000 miles of HPDE's and hiway cruisin' with a stock motor
the stock clutch is a very good deal for the money, its just the install that kills you!
10-23-2010, 10:33 PM
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If you are doing any street driving get a full face design, I personally hate my Monster Stage 3 on the street, it grabs like a ****, really sucks in a traffic jam. Works well on the track though.
10-24-2010, 07:20 PM
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Speaking from my own experience with the 2+, I doubt very very much it will hold 500whp in "real" track conditions...mine did not, and I am not even at 500 (wish I was ).
Don't gamble, get yourself the 3 or 3+
If you are willing to give up easy launches, and possibly some longevity, for greatly improved performance, get a multi disc.
). Don't gamble, get yourself the 3 or 3+
If you are willing to give up easy launches, and possibly some longevity, for greatly improved performance, get a multi disc.
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10-24-2010, 07:52 PM
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Monster seems to be the 6 puck disc style. From previous comments the full face would help with the daily driver aspect of things. I am lucky right now and get to avoid most traffic but don't want to hate it if i do get stuck in some (DFW still has some traffic at the wrong hour)
The SPEC stage 3+ has the full surfaced disc and even more capacity (claimed at least) than the monster. If i hit 500rwhp ill be happy but that would probably be the max and torque will be a bit lower so I won't be killing this thing, but to have it hold on the high end and take the RoadRace wear I want to do it right. The little things keep adding up but ill have a beast car when I am done.
What is this option by the way? Concentric Hydraulic Release Bearing/Slave Assembly What is this, is it just SPECs slave style or what?????
Can anyone who has used both clutches comment how SPEC and Monster compare. Just like anything else a new car is going to have a different feel and take some getting used to.
The SPEC stage 3+ has the full surfaced disc and even more capacity (claimed at least) than the monster. If i hit 500rwhp ill be happy but that would probably be the max and torque will be a bit lower so I won't be killing this thing, but to have it hold on the high end and take the RoadRace wear I want to do it right. The little things keep adding up but ill have a beast car when I am done.
What is this option by the way? Concentric Hydraulic Release Bearing/Slave Assembly What is this, is it just SPECs slave style or what?????
Can anyone who has used both clutches comment how SPEC and Monster compare. Just like anything else a new car is going to have a different feel and take some getting used to.
10-25-2010, 10:19 AM
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You guys think i really need the Stage 3?
or is it more the road racing that the Stage 3 will be a better long term investment for me?
Just trying to understand becuase it doens't look like ill hit the SPEC stage 2+ tq much less stage 3?
or is it more the road racing that the Stage 3 will be a better long term investment for me?
Just trying to understand becuase it doens't look like ill hit the SPEC stage 2+ tq much less stage 3?
10-26-2010, 01:08 AM
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I am thinking the Stage2+ would be a fair balance. I just think the stage 3+ is overkill if the stage2+ hold 715lbtq. Even at the fly i won't be close to 600 hp or tq.
Road Racing isn't like the instant grab thats needed in drag racing. smoother on everything on the racetrack is better.
I think ill try this one and see how it does. The monster 3 with the pucks just seems like its gonna be too much for me right now.
The LS7 would probably be fine, but id at least rather be over the power than around the same power it holds.
dvandentop, what power are you running through your stock clutch?
Road Racing isn't like the instant grab thats needed in drag racing. smoother on everything on the racetrack is better.
I think ill try this one and see how it does. The monster 3 with the pucks just seems like its gonna be too much for me right now.
The LS7 would probably be fine, but id at least rather be over the power than around the same power it holds.
dvandentop, what power are you running through your stock clutch?
10-26-2010, 09:33 AM
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10-26-2010, 09:44 AM
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The Spec 3 was the worst decision I've made yet building my car.
I consider myself a pretty good clutch operator, but I swear no matter what I do it feels like the car is being ripped apart by that damn clutch when starting from a stop. I absolutely hate it. I guarantee it's not good for the TT bushings.
I consider myself a pretty good clutch operator, but I swear no matter what I do it feels like the car is being ripped apart by that damn clutch when starting from a stop. I absolutely hate it. I guarantee it's not good for the TT bushings.
10-26-2010, 09:53 AM
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The Spec 3 was the worst decision I've made yet building my car.
I consider myself a pretty good clutch operator, but I swear no matter what I do it feels like the car is being ripped apart by that damn clutch when starting from a stop. I absolutely hate it. I guarantee it's not good for the TT bushings.
I consider myself a pretty good clutch operator, but I swear no matter what I do it feels like the car is being ripped apart by that damn clutch when starting from a stop. I absolutely hate it. I guarantee it's not good for the TT bushings.
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10-26-2010, 10:03 AM
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I think if i get close to 500rwhp or just over it I heard the LS7 is coming to the top end of its holding ability there. I'd rather be sure its holding strong.
Regarding the ZR1, that looks like a great deal and tempted, but I am trying to not spend THAT much more money, I am already a bit above the line in the sand as they say so under $1000 would really help.
What do you know about monster clutches?
Regarding the ZR1, that looks like a great deal and tempted, but I am trying to not spend THAT much more money, I am already a bit above the line in the sand as they say so under $1000 would really help.
What do you know about monster clutches?
10-26-2010, 10:53 AM
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10-26-2010, 11:24 AM
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I think if i get close to 500rwhp or just over it I heard the LS7 is coming to the top end of its holding ability there. I'd rather be sure its holding strong.
Regarding the ZR1, that looks like a great deal and tempted, but I am trying to not spend THAT much more money, I am already a bit above the line in the sand as they say so under $1000 would really help.
What do you know about monster clutches?
Regarding the ZR1, that looks like a great deal and tempted, but I am trying to not spend THAT much more money, I am already a bit above the line in the sand as they say so under $1000 would really help.
What do you know about monster clutches?
I have never heard it put this way, but its the truth..!!
10-26-2010, 02:51 PM
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Hey Scott,
Did you get a "newer" clutch from them (within last 3 yrs?)...that may be the degradation of quality I have heard of...the Spec 3 I have is awesome...couldnt be happier. The disc is new, but the PP and FW are the older version, which may explain why...
Did you get a "newer" clutch from them (within last 3 yrs?)...that may be the degradation of quality I have heard of...the Spec 3 I have is awesome...couldnt be happier. The disc is new, but the PP and FW are the older version, which may explain why...
10-26-2010, 03:04 PM
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Drifting
The LS7 is a great clutch considering its price, held my HP/TQ just fine on track, but its heavy as all get out...likely the heaviest of any clutch period. For the street its cool, but I would NEVER recommend that to anyone who actually wants to be competitive in TT or RR.
10-26-2010, 03:23 PM
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Bought it in Oct '09.
10-26-2010, 03:51 PM
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Right now i only had about 373/369 hp/tq that was with headers only.
The problem is i am doing a 403ci stroker with LS2 stage 2 Heads and i think i may go with a 234/238 .600 114 cam. All of that together is going to change the car dramtically.
I may not hit 500hp/tq but i may be getting closer up there to that number in both hp/tq so that was my worry about the LS7 not holding. I hear its the heaviest but smoothest.
I have been leaning towards the Monster Stage 3. Haven't seen anyone with a bad review yet, but SPEC had mixed reviews some just fine others didn't like it at all.
I doubt to hold the power and not spend a ton it won't be the same old corvette but with a cam and headers and all of this, I really am not tooo worried, just want a reliable decent clutch.
The problem is i am doing a 403ci stroker with LS2 stage 2 Heads and i think i may go with a 234/238 .600 114 cam. All of that together is going to change the car dramtically.
I may not hit 500hp/tq but i may be getting closer up there to that number in both hp/tq so that was my worry about the LS7 not holding. I hear its the heaviest but smoothest.
I have been leaning towards the Monster Stage 3. Haven't seen anyone with a bad review yet, but SPEC had mixed reviews some just fine others didn't like it at all.
I doubt to hold the power and not spend a ton it won't be the same old corvette but with a cam and headers and all of this, I really am not tooo worried, just want a reliable decent clutch.
