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Old 11-07-2010, 09:12 AM
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http://carbonrev.com/impact_strip.html

I have Dymag today, they are two piece, not comfortabel to run slicks and race on those, but these are one piece CF ?
what do you guys think




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mist be pretty good if they put themon the ultimate aero, i would wonder what the heat from hot brakes does to it
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How much did they quote you?
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Default I would have to ask several questions first.

1. What happens when you hit them even harder, hard enough to make them fail? Do they shatter? Does the rim break lose from the spokes?

2. An aluminum wheel ages gracefully and doesn't lose strength as it ages? How about CF? Does it get brittle as it gets older?

3. How does exposure to road grime affect the CF? Brake dust?

4. A professional race team can afford new CF wheels every few races. I can't. Will I be able to use the same CF wheels for a few years, or will I have to replace them due to some aging issue?
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What do your race rules say about C/F wheels ?
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mist be pretty good if they put themon the ultimate aero, i would wonder what the heat from hot brakes does to it
Heat resistance is dependent on the resin matrix being used. Aerospace grade composite components can maintain their integrity up 5400° Fahrenheit however most industrial resins are only rated for 500° Fahrenheit.

I use carbon fiber tuned pipes on some of my boat motors which operate in the 600° range. The nitro fuel attacks the fortified epoxy & over time the pipes become soft & change shape.
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Pretty soon everyone will have these. Right now I just don't know much about the quality of these particular wheels. Anyone know this company?

If you can make F1 tubs out of carbon fiber why can't you make wheels out of carbon fiber?

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Originally Posted by bobmoore2
1. What happens when you hit them even harder, hard enough to make them fail? Do they shatter? Does the rim break lose from the spokes?

2. An aluminum wheel ages gracefully and doesn't lose strength as it ages? How about CF? Does it get brittle as it gets older?

3. How does exposure to road grime affect the CF? Brake dust?

4. A professional race team can afford new CF wheels every few races. I can't. Will I be able to use the same CF wheels for a few years, or will I have to replace them due to some aging issue?
Regarding your #2 Aluminum dont age gracefully !
actually every time you put force on Aluminum, even if it is within spec, it decreases its ability and strenght.
Steel and CF does not unless you exceed the given max force for a given product/application

#3. Dont know

#4 think so

I am more worried about the max forces it can be exposed to, as long as we dont exceed that, CF should not become brittle or break.

massive Heat can do something to CF ? Don t know


CF will not survive a hard curb impact directly to CF side, or grinding off 1/2 inch of lowered rear A-arm as i did with my CCW on Nurburgring

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What do your race rules say about C/F wheels ?
Nothing why should they



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Originally Posted by Joe_Knesek
Heat resistance is dependent on the resin matrix being used. Aerospace grade composite components can maintain their integrity up 5400° Fahrenheit however most industrial resins are only rated for 500° Fahrenheit.

I use carbon fiber tuned pipes on some of my boat motors which operate in the 600° range. The nitro fuel attacks the fortified epoxy & over time the pipes become soft & change shape.

We should be good then, i dont think my inside wheel barrel ever get up to 500F ?

production tools and capacity will let us buy these at affordable prices in the future.? I hope
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holy crap, a 20" x 12.5" rim weighs roughly 19.5 pounds! thats light!
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Originally Posted by littlesk8cracker
holy crap, a 20" x 12.5" rim weighs roughly 19.5 pounds! thats light!
and 12.1 pounds for a 18x8.5

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Default If everybody ask for it, we might get it for our Corvette

if everyone go to this web page and ask to have it in 19x12 18x10 then they might make it for us first


http://carbonrev.com/contact.php



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Some race organization require wheels to be Aluminum and brake rotors to be iron.
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Those wheels would cost a small fortune - the cost / benefit ratio would be way out of line. Mega bux to save a couple of pounds of rotating mass per corner ?? I don't think so, at least not at our participation level in this sport !
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Of course you realize you will need the super bling Ti lugs to go with them ...

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Of course you relize you will need the super bling Ti lugs to go with them ...
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Originally Posted by CHJ In Virginia
Those wheels would cost a small fortune - the cost / benefit ratio would be way out of line. Mega bux to save a couple of pounds of rotating mass per corner ?? I don't think so, at least not at our participation level in this sport !
I am not saying madness quit at a certain doller level, but money aside, this would be something you really could feel.
Going from a stock Z06 wheel @ 28 pounds down to 16.4 pounds, is HUGE difference.
Now if tire also go down from stock 32 pounds to 23 pounds, Hoosier or Michelin slicks.
20+ pounds @ 4 corners is like dropping 350-400 pounds off your car.
Braking cornering and acceleration is unreal.

Try this, go out and take front bicycle wheel and spin it up to speed, now grab the wheels and stop it. If your fast = no pain
Now add 3 pounds on outer diameter and do the same actually dont = pain
I have Dymags, these new one is slightly lighter, mostly in center so benefit not soo much, but i hope they are stronger than 2 piece Dymag
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A ran magnesium Dymags on my Gixxer 1000 . Doing track days mostly
2.5 / 3.5 pounds weight savings . It was worth it


I envy your resorces .
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Some race organization require wheels to be Aluminum and brake rotors to be iron.
I know, i was trying to be funny
In our unlimited class, anything goes, my street modified Z06 need all the help itvcan get to compete against Porsche 911 RSR, Opel DTM, Audi S1 etc.
I am too heavy 3140 lbs with me and full tank of fuel, lightest car in my class is an old LeMans GT2 car, Porsche 993 GT2= 2620 lbs with driver and fuel, 600 hp and tons of torque


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