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Old 12-18-2010, 11:11 AM
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No surprise here Chevy drops the ball again and does not show any interest in it's racers, ford on the other hand is now releasing yet another track version of the mustang for them!

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/09/f...302s-race-car/
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Originally Posted by dvandentop
No surprise here Chevy drops the ball again and does not show any interest in it's racers, ford on the other hand is now releasing yet another track version of the mustang for them!

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/09/f...302s-race-car/
Guess you did not see the Z06X or Camaro SSX!
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Guess you did not see the Z06X or Camaro SSX!
Guess you missed the fact that you can't actually buy a Z06X or SSX, but you can go to a [Ford] dealer and purchase these Mustangs...
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Guess you missed the fact that you can't actually buy a Z06X or SSX, but you can go to a [Ford] dealer and purchase these Mustangs...
Yep exactly. Z06X and SSX are just "show" cars showing what "could be done" but Chevy wont actually do it on a saleable car.
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Originally Posted by dvandentop
Yep exactly. Z06X and SSX are just "show" cars showing what "could be done" but Chevy wont actually do it on a saleable car.
Are you sure about that!
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Are you sure about that!
Yes. GM/Chevy have said the Z06X is a concept vehicle. Most of the parts used in the conversion are supposed to become available via GMPP but the official word is you will not be able to just buy a Z06X pre-assembled and happily delivered from the factory.

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Originally Posted by gkmccready
Guess you missed the fact that you can't actually buy a Z06X or SSX, but you can go to a [Ford] dealer and purchase these Mustangs...

good one...
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Originally Posted by dvandentop
No surprise here Chevy drops the ball again and does not show any interest in it's racers, ford on the other hand is now releasing yet another track version of the mustang for them!

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/09/f...302s-race-car/
Just referring to your comment about GM showing no interest in its racers. Why build the Z06X and SSX when you have no interest in your racers?
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Originally Posted by gkmccready
Yes. GM/Chevy have said the Z06X is a concept vehicle. Most of the parts used in the conversion are supposed to become available via GMPP but the official word is you will not be able to just buy a Z06X pre-assembled and happily delivered from the factory.

You have other information available?
I do have more info, but if I told you, I have to KEEL you!
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Just referring to your comment about GM showing no interest in its racers. Why build the Z06X and SSX when you have no interest in your racers?
Because they needed something flashy for SEMA. Ford and Dodge are offering complete cars from the factory to their racers... don't get me wrong, I'm happy Chevy did the Z06X and SSX, but there's a big difference between producing a marketing vehicle and delivering a product...
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saw it at PRI

an $80k AI car, really?
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Originally Posted by gkmccready
Because they needed something flashy for SEMA. Ford and Dodge are offering complete cars from the factory to their racers... don't get me wrong, I'm happy Chevy did the Z06X and SSX, but there's a big difference between producing a marketing vehicle and delivering a product...
Have you tried buying one of there from your friendly Ford dealer? Just bend over and back in. When I talked to one they wanted way north of $100k. I could have bought a new ZR1 and had it turn key builttrack ready for less money.
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That front splitter wont work 6 inches off the ground , 80 -100 k ouch
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Originally Posted by drivinhard
saw it at PRI

an $80k AI car, really?
This.
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Originally Posted by drivinhard
an $80k AI car, really?
440hp, how much weight? ST2? A base C6 turned racer with equivalent parts is going to be how much? or a Camaro done similarly? I bet the pricing isn't that crazy in the end...
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I wonder if perhaps Corvette is making too many choices already and need to go with a good street and a good track version with maybe only the ZR1 as a third high end? How many different versions of the 2011 are there? Over a half dozen already?
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Judging by the fact that the ZR-1 is outselling the Z06, I would say GM is really passing up good money by not making a racing car. They could make and sell a spec C6 or even Z06 race car for 100-150k and enthusiasts and race teams both would buy them up.

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Originally Posted by gkmccready
Guess you missed the fact that you can't actually buy a Z06X or SSX, but you can go to a [Ford] dealer and purchase these Mustangs...
Pricing is set at $79,000, identical to the FR500S, and just 50 will be available from the Ford Racing Performance Parts catalog.
Good luck walking into any local dealer and buying 1 of the 50 of these that are made.
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Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO
Good luck walking into any local dealer and buying 1 of the 50 of these that are made.
Have to have better luck than the 0 of 0 GM is producing... ;-)
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Originally Posted by gkmccready
440hp, how much weight? ST2? A base C6 turned racer with equivalent parts is going to be how much? or a Camaro done similarly? I bet the pricing isn't that crazy in the end...
If it makes 390 RWHP, it'll be 3400+ lbs in ST2.

I think at PRI somebody said ~3600 lbs for the car. It's a heavy pig.

Probably a nice "AI" car but $80k to go play in AI???? (not even AIX?)


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