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Old 07-25-2012, 06:26 PM
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Due to no dry sump in a 2011 Grand Sport with automatic transmission would driving hard on a track day or doing a track day be a bad idea ?
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Not unless you have changed from street tires to r-compound tires (e.g. Hoosiers) and are driving on long high g corners pulling sustained 1.1+ g's.

Put a little extra oil in (as per the owners manual) and enjoy.
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and learn to manually downshift before turn in and upshift as needed.

any automatic trans still needs to manually shifted, or all the auto shift points will be in the wrong places.
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What the others said. I think the long left turns are what can starve sump of oil.

Also Spring Mountain has A6 GSs that they reliably run... you should be fine

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Spoke to them.

Their 17 school Grand Sports are stick shift thus have dry-sump engines
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Originally Posted by broomhilda
Spoke to them.

Their 17 school Grand Sports are stick shift thus have dry-sump engines
When I was at Spring Mountain in April, they had one guy in a GS automatic.

Just need to put in an extra quart of oil and check your tire pressures. Just use the paddle shifters and have fun.
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Originally Posted by rayk
When I was at Spring Mountain in April, they had one guy in a GS automatic.

Just need to put in an extra quart of oil and check your tire pressures. Just use the paddle shifters and have fun.
Because I have an A6, I asked to drive a Spring Mountain A6 for one track session. We were pulling between 1.05 and 1.1G sustained in the tighter corners. I asked the Spring Mountain staff if they had any problems with the A6 and they said they didn't.

The A6's were normally used on the wet skidpad, at least when I was there last December, which is probably the least stressful use in terms of cornering forces.
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Originally Posted by broomhilda
Spoke to them.

Their 17 school Grand Sports are stick shift thus have dry-sump engines
Hello,
correct, we have the manuals but also the A6's as well. we have not had any oil starvation issues on the track, even when driven by the instructors
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I will be running my 2012 Grand Sport A6 car up at Road America at MVP Track Days in middle October.

I will report back with findings and hopefully some video as well.

This should be interesting as the last car I ran there was a 560HP/520TQ tire (TVS2300 blower car), manual trans 5th gen Camaro with a full compliment of Pedders/PFADT suspension, carbotech pads, DBA rotors, ss lines and all the other powertrain goodies.

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Set the DIC to watch your oil temps. Above 285, back off to cool down. A couple of no braking laps or short shifting will help.

Have fun!
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Originally Posted by StKnoWhere
Set the DIC to watch your oil temps. Above 285, back off to cool down. A couple of no braking laps or short shifting will help.

Have fun!
I took my wife's 2012 GS Auto out a month or so ago....yes, DEFINITELY watch your oil temps!! This was at Eagles Canyon Raceway in Texas, in July...so it was 100+ degrees...needless to say, things got hot QUICK. What I noticed is that paddle-shifting seemed to shut-down/disable at hotter oil temps...so I'd do some nice "chill out laps" and let temps get back to normal and then go *****-out again. Hopefully MarkDFW will chime in, he has an auto GS and rocks it!
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Watch some of my videos. 2012 grand sport. I use the paddle shifters and beat it as hard as I can. Adding a little extra oil is a good idea. And I run either R Comps or slicks.

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Originally Posted by MarkDFW
Watch some of my videos. 2012 grand sport. I use the paddle shifters and beat it as hard as I can. Adding a little extra oil is a good idea. And I run either R Comps or slicks.

Eagle's Canyon Raceway April 6, 2013 - YouTube
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Nice Driving MarkDFW!

The bug splat is a hoot
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The A6 generally runs hotter than the M6 but it is no problem running the auto on the track. Follow advice above on shifting, the car will be an absolute dog left in auto. I barely use 4th, let alone allowing the trans to go to 5th or 6th.
Cooling becomes an issue that is directly proportional to the ambient and your experience. If you only go a couple of times a year, you'll be fine. Go 10 - 15x /year and a larger rad, and coolers for the trans and oil, ducting for the brakes, heat shields for the ball joints, TI inserts in the calipers and upgraded fluids will become necessary.

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The A6 generally runs hotter than the M6 but it is no problem running the auto on the track. Follow advice above on shifting, the car will be an absolute dog left in auto. I barely use 4th, let alone allowing the trans to go to 5th or 6th.
Cooling becomes an issue that is directly proportional to the ambient and your experience. If you only go a couple of times a year, you'll be fine. Go 10 - 15x /year and a larger rad, and coolers for the trans and oil, ducting for the brakes, heat shields for the ball joints, TI inserts in the calipers and upgraded fluids will become necessary.
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Originally Posted by MarkDFW
Watch some of my videos. 2012 grand sport. I use the paddle shifters and beat it as hard as I can. Adding a little extra oil is a good idea. And I run either R Comps or slicks.

Eagle's Canyon Raceway April 6, 2013 - YouTube
What camera are you running and how did you muffle out the wind noise? I tried that with my GPHero2HD and got mostly air sounds last year at Road America.

I'd love to mount it like you did and have a similar video of myself coming up in August.. That looks awesome.

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