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Old 07-27-2012, 12:11 AM
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I experienced an erratic long, soft pedal with longitudinally tapered pads:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...l-problem.html

I'm not one to toss pads when there is friction material left(especially some ST-47's, but then again that's why I'm the one changing pads between sessions) so here is what I tried to "fix" them.

I had them put on a magnetic base surface grinder and took about .050 off most of the pad surface(75%) parallel with the mounting face and....it worked. I installed the pads with the ground face on the leading edge. They work fine!
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you can just swap the outer pads to their opposite inner sides every ~4 sessions.
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I did a video on pad swapping, click below & search my channel on Corvette pads.

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Originally Posted by RX-Ben
you can just swap the outer pads to their opposite inner sides every ~4 sessions.

Just take the pads from the left and put them on the right and vice versa. The inboard pad will become the outboard pad on each pair after the swap. Evens the taper and you don't have to grind off valuable pad material.

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this can be done for a little while, but new calipers are in your future to correct the problem.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn

Just take the pads from the left and put them on the right and vice versa. The inboard pad will become the outboard pad on each pair after the swap. Evens the taper and you don't have to grind off valuable pad material.

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I do that every time as well and I highly recommend the practice but you can't do that if the taper is excessive. Certain tracks(Laguna Seca) due to their heavy, repeated braking cause extreme longitudinal pad taper(in my case, .050-.100") after only 3-4 sessions. I can flip the pads in this condition but what I have found out is that I get a "long, soft" pedal that's worthless on the track. By surface grinding these tapered pads, I am able to salvage what would otherwise be scrap.

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Originally Posted by Sidney004
I do that every time as well and I highly recommend the practice but you can't do that if the taper is excessive. Certain tracks(Laguna Seca) due to their heavy, repeated braking cause extreme longitudinal pad taper(in my case, .050-.100") after only 3-4 sessions. I can flip the pads in this condition but what I have found out is that I get a "long, soft" pedal that's worthless on the track. By surface grinding these tapered pads, I am able to salvage what would otherwise be scrap.
I solved that problem by double pumping the brakes with my left foot before I got to the brake zone. The taper would gradually wear away and I would have to tap less.

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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
I solved that problem by double pumping the brakes with my left foot before I got to the brake zone. The taper would gradually wear away and I would have to tap less.

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The long/soft pedal goes away in 2-4 laps as you are "trimming off" the high points of the flipped pads. Unless you are racing it's pretty easy to deal with if you are a sensible driver.
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Using the stock C5 caliper? how long you been on those calipers?

Get a set of used good condition C6 stock ones, they hold up stronger, same pad and mounting sizes.

get the titanium shims and the steel shim set form my write up. As the pad material gets less shim them to stop the piston tilt and you will get less pad wedging.

Calipers only last about 1-2 seasons by abuse. I also like the SS pistons from DRM to help the heat and slow the spread.

Originally Posted by Sidney004
I experienced an erratic long, soft pedal with longitudinally tapered pads:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...l-problem.html

I'm not one to toss pads when there is friction material left(especially some ST-47's, but then again that's why I'm the one changing pads between sessions) so here is what I tried to "fix" them.

I had them put on a magnetic base surface grinder and took about .050 off most of the pad surface(75%) parallel with the mounting face and....it worked. I installed the pads with the ground face on the leading edge. They work fine!
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Stock calipers, SS pistons, Ti shims, SRF fluid is a great setup. Wil H pads wear very well so also minimize taper tendency.
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Originally Posted by sothpaw2
Stock calipers, SS pistons, Ti shims, SRF fluid is a great setup. Wil H pads wear very well so also minimize taper tendency.

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