Active handling defeated!
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Active handling defeated!
Yes, you heard that right. Thanks to tips from Germany's krisa9977 I was able to disable active handling without using dummy TPMS in a pressurized pipe - see thread: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...-handling.html
I started a new thread because I feel strongly this is a topic most track rats need to know as not to ruin their track event if one of their TPMS goes bad. It is really simple to disable your active handling in 2 minutes. You can still select traction control ON or OFF and ABS still works. This is not for street driving and only to be used on the track and exercise caution if you chose to drive without active handling.
Here is the pain you will feel if somehow your TPMS goes bad or if you don't have TPMS in your track wheels and could not turn off active handling. Frankly it is flat out dangerous to have active handling kick in suddenly on the track when you least expect it.
First remove the plastic panel under the steering wheel column. pull down hard on the three plastic retainer screws and the cover will pop loose
Locate the steering wheel position sensor and disconnect the white sensor wire connector
When you start the car you will see the warning "service active handling". You can change the message to other engine parameters
I went out for a drive with Michelin slicks on a cold night without TPMS and make sharp turns at >0.9 G and active handling did not kick in
Will have full report on how the car handle with this setup after this weekend's track event
I started a new thread because I feel strongly this is a topic most track rats need to know as not to ruin their track event if one of their TPMS goes bad. It is really simple to disable your active handling in 2 minutes. You can still select traction control ON or OFF and ABS still works. This is not for street driving and only to be used on the track and exercise caution if you chose to drive without active handling.
Here is the pain you will feel if somehow your TPMS goes bad or if you don't have TPMS in your track wheels and could not turn off active handling. Frankly it is flat out dangerous to have active handling kick in suddenly on the track when you least expect it.
First remove the plastic panel under the steering wheel column. pull down hard on the three plastic retainer screws and the cover will pop loose
Locate the steering wheel position sensor and disconnect the white sensor wire connector
When you start the car you will see the warning "service active handling". You can change the message to other engine parameters
I went out for a drive with Michelin slicks on a cold night without TPMS and make sharp turns at >0.9 G and active handling did not kick in
Will have full report on how the car handle with this setup after this weekend's track event
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why not just pull the fuse that is what we did.. i had just put on some stickys,,I was running the front straight at Homestead and out of nowhere just before T1 the front right locked up and pulled me towards the wall and just scared the s#$t out of me.. My buddy Brent from Performance tech pulled the AH/Abs fuse and i have never had any problem .. My Car is a full track car.. this may not be a good idea if you drive it on the street..
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why not just pull the fuse that is what we did.. i had just put on some stickys,,I was running the front straight at Homestead and out of nowhere just before T1 the front right locked up and pulled me towards the wall and just scared the s#$t out of me.. My buddy Brent from Performance tech pulled the AH/Abs fuse and i have never had any problem .. My Car is a full track car.. this may not be a good idea if you drive it on the street..
Mikymu: the same result can be had by disconnecting the Acceleration/YAW sensor that resides behind the stereo stack. The only downside to this workaround is your datalogger can't pick up the built in steering angle or acceleration/yaw that the CANBUS is reporting.
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why not just pull the fuse that is what we did.. i had just put on some stickys,,I was running the front straight at Homestead and out of nowhere just before T1 the front right locked up and pulled me towards the wall and just scared the s#$t out of me.. My buddy Brent from Performance tech pulled the AH/Abs fuse and i have never had any problem .. My Car is a full track car.. this may not be a good idea if you drive it on the street..
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Is yours a C5?
Mikymu: the same result can be had by disconnecting the Acceleration/YAW sensor that resides behind the stereo stack. The only downside to this workaround is your datalogger can't pick up the built in steering angle or acceleration/yaw that the CANBUS is reporting.
Mikymu: the same result can be had by disconnecting the Acceleration/YAW sensor that resides behind the stereo stack. The only downside to this workaround is your datalogger can't pick up the built in steering angle or acceleration/yaw that the CANBUS is reporting.
Yes, ABS still works by disconnecting the steering angle sensor which is very important and help prevent flat spot especially if you use slicks
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On my C5 z06 we did this back in 2003, during the One Lap of America. The active handling was malfuntioning and DRM contacted GM and was told that disconnecting the steering position sensor was the way to completely disable active handling without affecting abs. I always wondered if that would work on C6s. Guess we have our answer.
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Outstanding! I was always worried about spending $$$$ going to the track between all the associated expenses and then having a TPMS sensor crap out and then being stuck in AH hell or reduced engine power (even worse).
Say, does this trick also work for PTM cars? i.e. can I still go into my Race mode 5 with this plug disconnected?
Say, does this trick also work for PTM cars? i.e. can I still go into my Race mode 5 with this plug disconnected?
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On my C5 z06 we did this back in 2003, during the One Lap of America. The active handling was malfuntioning and DRM contacted GM and was told that disconnecting the steering position sensor was the way to completely disable active handling without affecting abs. I always wondered if that would work on C6s. Guess we have our answer.
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Outstanding! I was always worried about spending $$$$ going to the track between all the associated expenses and then having a TPMS sensor crap out and then being stuck in AH hell or reduced engine power (even worse).
Say, does this trick also work for PTM cars? i.e. can I still go into my Race mode 5 with this plug disconnected?
Say, does this trick also work for PTM cars? i.e. can I still go into my Race mode 5 with this plug disconnected?
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Outstanding! I was always worried about spending $$$$ going to the track between all the associated expenses and then having a TPMS sensor crap out and then being stuck in AH hell or reduced engine power (even worse).
Say, does this trick also work for PTM cars? i.e. can I still go into my Race mode 5 with this plug disconnected?
Say, does this trick also work for PTM cars? i.e. can I still go into my Race mode 5 with this plug disconnected?
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Outstanding! I was always worried about spending $$$$ going to the track between all the associated expenses and then having a TPMS sensor crap out and then being stuck in AH hell or reduced engine power (even worse).
Say, does this trick also work for PTM cars? i.e. can I still go into my Race mode 5 with this plug disconnected?
Say, does this trick also work for PTM cars? i.e. can I still go into my Race mode 5 with this plug disconnected?
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Don't know what PTM Mode 5 is but if it means the only thing operating is the ABS then you will have it automatically when you pull the connector. The selector switch won't do anything since there is nothing left to control. You will have ABS and nothing else. No TC and no stability control functions at all.
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Check out this video in the rain!
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My second or third VLN race, once I drove out from the pit lane after refueling (with slicks)all the sudden started raining. I had to drive almost full 20 km lap with slick tires before I got back to the box and put rain tires... Stability control is the winner in those cases