I want to do open track but I haven't done HPDE.
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I want to do open track but I haven't done HPDE.
Hey guys,
There is a few open track days at Pacific Raceways here in Washington. I want to go but I have not set foot on a track before.
I could wait, do HPDE in May and hit open track in October BUT weather isn't good then. This could mean that if I don't hit open track now, I may have to wait a WHOLE YEAR for open track!
What do you track pros say? Is open track too risky as a rookie or is it a blast and a good learning experience even for a first timer?
------------------"To go or not to go? That is the question"-----------------
Thanks guys!
P.S. I will check out the "sticky" section for roadracing, I just want to know your thoughts.
There is a few open track days at Pacific Raceways here in Washington. I want to go but I have not set foot on a track before.
I could wait, do HPDE in May and hit open track in October BUT weather isn't good then. This could mean that if I don't hit open track now, I may have to wait a WHOLE YEAR for open track!
What do you track pros say? Is open track too risky as a rookie or is it a blast and a good learning experience even for a first timer?
------------------"To go or not to go? That is the question"-----------------
Thanks guys!
P.S. I will check out the "sticky" section for roadracing, I just want to know your thoughts.
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If the organizer allows you on the track with no experience, then go for it, but go with the idea of letting your wallet be your guide. Being on a track is a lot more than simply driving. My recommendation, wait for a HPDE Event where you can have an instructor, then go out and learn something about your car, and your driving ability.
vz
vz
#3
Team Owner
To many people, an HPDE and "Open Track" day means the same thing. You enter an event and you get to drive on the course usually with an instructor if you have no experience. Events have run groups for different experience levels. These events will have a "Beginner" or "Novice" group for those with no track experiences, "Intermediate" group for those with some experienced, and usually an "Advanced" group for those with a few years of experience.
I would suggest that you look into one of the organizations that host events and provide instructors. Typically, the fee you pay as a beginner will include an instructor who will work with you for the entire day.
Pacific Raceways has their own resident school and Hooked On Driving will have a few events each year. Some clubs offer track days that are open to the public but most will want you to have some level of experience.
I would suggest that you look into one of the organizations that host events and provide instructors. Typically, the fee you pay as a beginner will include an instructor who will work with you for the entire day.
Pacific Raceways has their own resident school and Hooked On Driving will have a few events each year. Some clubs offer track days that are open to the public but most will want you to have some level of experience.
#4
Burning Brakes
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Zzzooooooooom
If the organizer allows you on the track with no experience, then go for it, but go with the idea of letting your wallet be your guide. Being on a track is a lot more than simply driving. My recommendation, wait for a HPDE Event where you can have an instructor, then go out and learn something about your car, and your driving ability.
vz
vz
I am allowed to go with no experience, they require class time and driving time with an instructor but it is brief compared to HPDE.
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You may want to look into Audi Club NA and BMW CCA HPDE events as they accept all makes for their events and generally run clean safe programs with good education. For a beginner safety and education are paramount.
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#8
Burning Brakes
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Ok, I'm going! Just put on some fresh Vredesteins, swapping the brake fluid and gonna put some new pads on. Thinkin' HAWK for the pads? Gotta order now.
Any other suggestions, guys? Something inexpensive yet effective for a first timer.
I appreciate it!
Any other suggestions, guys? Something inexpensive yet effective for a first timer.
I appreciate it!
Last edited by FruiTay; 01-24-2013 at 11:28 AM.
#9
Melting Slicks
The first time classroom and more importantly, the first time instructor is extremely important.
The pads (properly bedded) and brake fluid will be fine and really all you need if your tires are good and your gastank is full.
Your first 2 sessions will be {where the heck am I) , pay close attention to your instructor on the driving lines, brake and turn in points. Take it easy in the first 2, concentrate on the lines. Speed will come with seat time.
You're gonna love it.
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Bill32,
When is SCCA going to be at the Glen this year? Send me a PM I want to go but will have to join SCCA. Need to know all the requirements.
Thanks
Ron
When is SCCA going to be at the Glen this year? Send me a PM I want to go but will have to join SCCA. Need to know all the requirements.
Thanks
Ron
#11
I would recommend that you build yourself up and start in novice..
in some HPDEs even intermediate can be quick open track is for people with experience that wont freak out when a retired race car driver or really fast race car hits the track with you.. you need to get used to the speeds... so your racing line/heel toe down shifting, braking and smoothness should be like breathing and you should know how to safely enter a corner off line at speed and safely set up a pass for all those fast cars because they will be blowing by you! LOL even the slow ones! LOL and alot are driving 9/10's.. you have to be ok with that.. SO..
get used to the car and yourself and get an instructor, and if he thinks you are ready, will sign you for open track..
in some HPDEs even intermediate can be quick open track is for people with experience that wont freak out when a retired race car driver or really fast race car hits the track with you.. you need to get used to the speeds... so your racing line/heel toe down shifting, braking and smoothness should be like breathing and you should know how to safely enter a corner off line at speed and safely set up a pass for all those fast cars because they will be blowing by you! LOL even the slow ones! LOL and alot are driving 9/10's.. you have to be ok with that.. SO..
get used to the car and yourself and get an instructor, and if he thinks you are ready, will sign you for open track..
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To many people, an HPDE and "Open Track" day means the same thing. You enter an event and you get to drive on the course usually with an instructor if you have no experience. Events have run groups for different experience levels. These events will have a "Beginner" or "Novice" group for those with no track experiences, "Intermediate" group for those with some experienced, and usually an "Advanced" group for those with a few years of experience.
I would suggest that you look into one of the organizations that host events and provide instructors. Typically, the fee you pay as a beginner will include an instructor who will work with you for the entire day.
Pacific Raceways has their own resident school and Hooked On Driving will have a few events each year. Some clubs offer track days that are open to the public but most will want you to have some level of experience.
I would suggest that you look into one of the organizations that host events and provide instructors. Typically, the fee you pay as a beginner will include an instructor who will work with you for the entire day.
Pacific Raceways has their own resident school and Hooked On Driving will have a few events each year. Some clubs offer track days that are open to the public but most will want you to have some level of experience.
Remember, Real life on a race track is not like a video game.
there is NO RESET button
Be smart and take as much instruction as you can.
Good Luck, Have fun and be safe.
#13
Former Vendor
Hey guys,
There is a few open track days at Pacific Raceways here in Washington. I want to go but I have not set foot on a track before.
I could wait, do HPDE in May and hit open track in October BUT weather isn't good then. This could mean that if I don't hit open track now, I may have to wait a WHOLE YEAR for open track!
What do you track pros say? Is open track too risky as a rookie or is it a blast and a good learning experience even for a first timer?
------------------"To go or not to go? That is the question"-----------------
Thanks guys!
P.S. I will check out the "sticky" section for roadracing, I just want to know your thoughts.
There is a few open track days at Pacific Raceways here in Washington. I want to go but I have not set foot on a track before.
I could wait, do HPDE in May and hit open track in October BUT weather isn't good then. This could mean that if I don't hit open track now, I may have to wait a WHOLE YEAR for open track!
What do you track pros say? Is open track too risky as a rookie or is it a blast and a good learning experience even for a first timer?
------------------"To go or not to go? That is the question"-----------------
Thanks guys!
P.S. I will check out the "sticky" section for roadracing, I just want to know your thoughts.
Beyond that just get out there and get seat time!! Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions. Have fun!!
Kind regards,
Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007
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#16
Get at least Hawks HP+ minimum. I blew through half of a new set in 2.5 track sessions. The previous event I ran HPS pads and they were not confident slowing me into turn 2.
Dump the drilled rotors if you have them, mine cracked on that track.
I'd get the more agressive pads than HP+ and change at the track.
Have a good time. Pacific is about as close as you can get to attacking a back road on a track. The back half is like driving through the woods.
Dump the drilled rotors if you have them, mine cracked on that track.
I'd get the more agressive pads than HP+ and change at the track.
Have a good time. Pacific is about as close as you can get to attacking a back road on a track. The back half is like driving through the woods.
#17
Burning Brakes
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Aaaaah! That sounds exciting!
Get at least Hawks HP+ minimum. I blew through half of a new set in 2.5 track sessions. The previous event I ran HPS pads and they were not confident slowing me into turn 2.
Dump the drilled rotors if you have them, mine cracked on that track.
I'd get the more agressive pads than HP+ and change at the track.
Have a good time. Pacific is about as close as you can get to attacking a back road on a track. The back half is like driving through the woods.
Dump the drilled rotors if you have them, mine cracked on that track.
I'd get the more agressive pads than HP+ and change at the track.
Have a good time. Pacific is about as close as you can get to attacking a back road on a track. The back half is like driving through the woods.