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Old 01-06-2014, 04:26 PM
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Default Autocross vs. Track Day set up

On a C5 Z06 how much diff is there between a car properly set up for HPDE track day car vs. autocross set up etc ?

Im looking for a autocross car , but I seem to find more track purpose cars available right now.

Not sure if a HPDE car will perform as well in an a lower speed autocross enviroment.

I need some help on this ?
My idea, is to find a decent C5Z with good shocks/springs/bars and a set of Hoosiers or V710's ?

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An Autocross car will not need things like oil cooler, tranny cooler, diff cooler, Cool Suit setup, fire extinguisher, full cage, etc.
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Just go buy a stock C5 Z06 2002-2004. Put on Hoosiers A6's on the stock wheels. No need for oil coolers, fancy brakes, coil overs, etc. You will be faster then 95% of the cars out there. I just bought a 2004 Z06 and did the following mods. Stock rear wheels 18x10.5 on all 4 corners. 315/30/18 Hoosiers A6's. 35mm front sway bar. Hotchkis rear sway bar. Great Alignment. That's it. It makes me smile every time I Autocross it.

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If you're looking for an autocross car, have you thought about what class you want to run the car in? Semi-serious or just for fun? The other posters are correct - there's stuff on a track day car like cage/seat/harness (safety) and coolers (durability) that you don't need for autocrossing, and other stuff (like a gutted interior) that would put you into a much higher class for autocrossing.

As mountainbiker2 said, getting a nice clean stock C5 Z06 and doing bar/basic shocks (Koni 3013s)/alignment will get you a nice car, and one that is capable of being near the top at national level autocross events in the Super Stock class.
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The biggest difference will be in the driving style.You need to be really aggressive in AutoX. Driving on the track not so much.

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would a track car set up still work well as an autocrosser ?
Too soft or too stiff ?
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http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/aft/444873

Check out the above link and you're all set.
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thanks for the heads up.. i will check it out...

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Class setup within autocross could make a big difference. Brake pad choice would be different too; Autocross you want good initial bit, on the track something that can really take the heat.
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Originally Posted by Bad Karma
Autocross you want good initial bit,
I like hardly any initial bite. If you only want to scrub off a few mph, it's hard to do with high initial bite. It's different for everyone.

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For Autocross, I personally want great initial turn-in, but very quick rotation.
For track, I personally want great high speed turn stability, coupled with good initial turn-in and good corner exit traction.......however this last one is also a requirement for Autocross.

I never use 1st gear for track, but might use it for slow areas of a tight Autocross.
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You want a brake pad that doesn't need a lot of heat. My track pads work best at about 900-degrees. A good street pad will work at around 400 to 500 degrees.

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Originally Posted by mountainbiker2
I like hardly any initial bite. If you only want to scrub off a few mph, it's hard to do with high initial bite. It's different for everyone.

Steve
I should have put good bite when cold, meaning I'd want a pad with a lower temp range for Autocross and for the track if it takes a lap to heat up the pads to their optimal operating range, no problem as long as they ritjdyand yhr heat of a session. But that same pad will not hit its optimal temp range around a short Autocross run.

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