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Old 03-18-2014, 11:32 PM
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Can you use these to make stock panels latch for easy removal?



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Originally Posted by VGLNTE1
Can you use these to make stock panels latch for easy removal?



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the hood & hatch however the stock hatch & rear glass are really heavy to do this with also not much reason to use in the back.
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I wanted to use it for the front and rear bumper
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I wanted to use it for the front and rear bumper
you could probably do it. only consideration would be supports to attach the mounts. maybe pins underneath with big gromets in the cover and two latches on top
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In case you decide on using them - you can actually find locking ones if youre going to be on the street and worry about vandalism. They come in various colors and you can sometimes get them in carbon. Ebay, summit, jegs, and of course the various ricer parts sites should have pretty huge differences in pricing.... As far as getting them to hold up the bumper - I think the biggest limiting factor for using them on the bumpers is how many mounting points do you want showing?

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I don't need to worry about theft. Was thinking 2 per side. Just didn't know how they worked
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We've used them on hoods, they work fine (for a HPDE car).

For race cars I like quick releases that have adjustable tension and can be locked (cotter pin). But those are usually used on bigger pieces.

For small parts, panels, bumpers, quarter turn fasteners are the norm.
Deuz fasteners are the most widely used but Camloc quarter turn fasteners are far superior and don't cost much more.
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Waste of time really. These cars already come apart quickly with a 10mm, 13mm, and T-15 torx bit.
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Clips take 1 min. My front clip with a splitter covering the entire bottom makes it an hour job.
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We've used them on hoods, they work fine (for a HPDE car).

For race cars I like quick releases that have adjustable tension and can be locked (cotter pin). But those are usually used on bigger pieces.

For small parts, panels, bumpers, quarter turn fasteners are the norm.
Deuz fasteners are the most widely used but Camloc quarter turn fasteners are far superior and don't cost much more.
So how do you get them to work on stock panels?
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My splitter/undertray is held on with speed pins and dzus fasteners, but it's still a PITA to get off so I added a few bolts to make it 100% secure. I have no desire to take it on/off.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
My splitter/undertray is held on with speed pins and dzus fasteners, but it's still a PITA to get off so I added a few bolts to make it 100% secure. I have no desire to take it on/off.
Exactly...and mine is worse. I can't get it on an alignment rack, or trailer. Be nice to flip,a few clips and yank it off
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Originally Posted by VGLNTE1
So how do you get them to work on stock panels?
You'll have to figure out where you want the brackets that hold the female part of the quarter turn fasteners. But if you do go with those hood latches, you'll have to do the same thing, fab brackets to hold the pins, cut holes in the bumper/splitter for the latches, etc.
The quarter turns have the same requirements.

On some of the open wheel cars I build, the engine cover has 3 fasteners, the sidepods - 5 and the complete nose and front wing only has 2 (but does have 2 sets of pins and sockets).

I'm not saying that the hood latches wouldn't work but I question if you can do it with 4 of them. And you have to take into account the loading on the splitter when you do the design.
It's certainly possible with either type of fastener.

If I was going to do it, I'd give the guys at Rippie or LG a call and pick their brains.

Good Luck
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Mine comes off with four speed pins and 8 dzus, but it's a PITA to get to them with the brake ducts in place. Find a shop that can handle the car and setup your trailer to load w/o worrying about the splitter. Way easier than taking it all on/off.
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We have the same dream. Pull a couple of pins, front off, load up and head to the track, unload and slap the front w/ the splitter attached on the car. I hope to steal your research
You can do it!
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
Mine comes off with four speed pins and 8 dzus, but it's a PITA to get to them with the brake ducts in place. Find a shop that can handle the car and setup your trailer to load w/o worrying about the splitter. Way easier than taking it all on/off.
So instead of making things easier, just find new shops that are hours away and buy a new trailer (since I don't have one).

Makes sense
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I had a setup on my old Speed Vision Camaro. Supposedly was the old '28" car. It had an aluminum frame around front end for support and had brackets welded on aluminum frame to attach front body panel. The splitter was attached to the front body panel. It had two 1 1/2 in. metal tubes welded to the car frame with holes drill through for front end attachment.
The front end had aluminum tubes which slid into the tubes welded to frame and quick release pins were used to attach. You just need a couple of dzus attachments to align fenders.

I was able to pull off the front end in about 4-5 minutes.

It is a lot of work to make the framework but the end result was really an easy way to remove complete front end.

I would call Louis at LG, as I think this was one of their creations. The car was sold to someone in Texas was was going to run AIX, so maybe it is still around and someone can get you some photos.

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